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pewpew said:
Democrats would love to get rid of firearms outright..although they'll tell you that's not true.
Instead they chip away at our rights here in CA. Ridiculous laws and ridiculous fees to law-abiding
citizens and gun store owners..in the hopes that both will go away. Another ammo tax coming next
month. But let's look at a few current ones.
Gun Roster. I can buy a Gen3 G19 but I can't own a Gen5. But LE can. A few cosmetic differences but
both shoot the same 9mm round. I also can't buy a tan colored pistol in some instances but in others I can.
Again..they both do the same exact thing. Tons of guns on the roster that LE can buy but the average person
can't. Long guns and hand guns.

Magazines. Limited to 10rd mags here in CA. Most other states (other than the highly restrictive NY and
Massachusetts plus a few others) allow "standard capacity" magazines. Show me a convicted felon that
follows the magazine restrictions and I'll show you a person who shouldn't be in possession of a firearm
in the first place. Some of this BS legislation was overturned by Judge Benitez only to be over-ruled by a higher
court of liberal judges. I wonder how many criminals have 30rd AR mags.

Ammo. For years now we've had to go thru a background check just to buy a box of ammo. Ridiculous!!
Just another ways for Dems to screw with law-abiding gun owners. Do you think criminals walk into the
local Big-5 or Turner's and go thru a background check to buy some ammo? In fact many Big-5 stores are
phasing out their firearms/ammo sales due to the hoops they have to jump thru. But then again..that was the
goal for Dems. Get rid of guns.

AG Bonta "accidentally" leaked our personal info for all the CCW owners in CA. Truly a dangerous, not to mention
a dick move. So much for looking out for public safety.

Storage laws. Gun shows cancelled. FFL Owner/operator restrictions. The list goes on and on.

You're also in TX. You know how liberal the gun laws are there compared to here. Unless you don't own any guns.
In that case you've got now clue. (Again.)
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My father was a licensed gun dealer in California. He saw the political gamesmanship like I do. Most gun owners I know have no problem with restrictions and regulations, they vote for it, it’s the price of doing business.

Check out the states with less gun control. There are of course outliers like DC and Chicago, those are high density issues.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/03/05/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-us/What the data says about gun deaths in the US | Pew Research Center
 
Slobodan said:
So what would be the motivation for doing what he did?

You're kidding yourself. You know damned well that ( illegal aliens + voter ID is racist = Remain in power )
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I've no idea why he fucked it up so bad. Obama was called "Deporter in Chief", so he didn't get it from there. The whole illegals voting assertion lacks any evidence.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
My father was a licensed gun dealer in California. He saw the political gamesmanship like I do. Most gun owners I know have no problem with restrictions and regulations, they vote for it, it’s the price of doing business.

Check out the states with less gun control. There are of course outliers like DC and Chicago, those are high density issues.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/03/05/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-us/What the data says about gun deaths in the US | Pew Research Center
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Typical liberal response. My rich pals in South OC all said back during the heist and poisoning, "it's ok to wear a mask, stay 6 feet away, wash hands and take all jabs and pay a little more for gas. It's my way of giving back and trusting the "experts."
 
I got this email from family "care" physician this morning, I kid you not.

Email subject line: Caring for You—From Pregnancy to Parkinson’s

Ya, read that again. This is the same place that tried to jab me and my family after I sprain my ankle in 2023.

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whatithink said:
The whole illegals voting assertion lacks any evidence.
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In CA, many of the people crooked Joe and his bandits let into our country got fake or old SS# from dead people, fake DL, CC, free housing, some cash, free food and a job standing out at Home Depot and from businesses that cheat. + all the other's WHO were already here have been voting. Mail in ballots in 2020 was so easy to cheat and guess what Grace, the military allowed them to cheat so we could catch them all and expose them all and now they all will pay with justice. In return for this opportunity of a lifetime, they have to vote for they & them dumb dumb. ++, they get counted in the Census. This is 100% what all this is about. Oh, +++, they didn't have to prove being jabbed to death. We see you very clearly. Don't act all dumb now either. You know 100% this is true. CA is in big trouble. I don't blame the people coming here, even the criminals. They were actually invited by the Dems, liberals and Marxists.
 
Slobodan said:
So what would be the motivation for doing what he did?

You're kidding yourself. You know damned well that ( illegal aliens + voter ID is racist = Remain in power )
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I don't think its for immediate votes (since its not the easiest thing to register a critical mass of illegals*), but its 100% for building more influence from the left side of the aisle. Just look at the recent LA riots.

I love how whatithink plays dumb and says IDK and husker says because Trump says it. They claim its not for votes, but can't even remotely articulate another reason. Talk about turning a blind eye.

FYI, most of the legal immigrants I know lean right.

*illegals aren't coming here to vote and most are going to be reluctant to give information to the government if they're here illegally.
 
watfly said:
I don't think its for immediate votes (since its not the easiest thing to register a critical mass of illegals*), but its 100% for building more influence from the left side of the aisle. Just look at the recent LA riots.

I love how whatithink plays dumb and says IDK and husker says because Trump says it. They claim its not for votes, but can't even remotely articulate another reason. Talk about turning a blind eye.

FYI, most of the legal immigrants I know lean right.

*illegals aren't coming here to vote and most are going to be reluctant to give information to the government if they're here illegally.
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Sounds like you aren’t having a dispute with yourself there. I hope you get it worked out.
 
Q sauce. The military set the trap, and the bandits did what bandits do, which is to cheat, kill, lie, steal and start wars to make money. Good luck everyone.
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watfly said:
I don't think its for immediate votes (since its not the easiest thing to register a critical mass of illegals*), but its 100% for building more influence from the left side of the aisle. Just look at the recent LA riots.

I love how whatithink plays dumb and says IDK and husker says because Trump says it. They claim its not for votes, but can't even remotely articulate another reason. Talk about turning a blind eye.

FYI, most of the legal immigrants I know lean right.

*illegals aren't coming here to vote and most are going to be reluctant to give information to the government if they're here illegally.
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I say IDK, because I don't. I can speculate that maybe someone thought it would play well with the Hispanic voters and would lock that demographic in "for a generation", but that's speculation on my behalf.

That speculation doesn't even make sense to me, as the illegals are in competition with a portion of the legals in that demographic.

So I'm back to IDK, it made no sense to me at the time and still makes no sense to me now.

Stating that it was done for votes from illegals is clearly BS.
 
whatithink said:
I say IDK, because I don't. I can speculate that maybe someone thought it would play well with the Hispanic voters and would lock that demographic in "for a generation", but that's speculation on my behalf.

That speculation doesn't even make sense to me, as the illegals are in competition with a portion of the legals in that demographic.

So I'm back to IDK, it made no sense to me at the time and still makes no sense to me now.

Stating that it was done for votes from illegals is clearly BS.
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Wrong again Grace
 
Wake up people. Stop being arrogant and prideful. Humility comes before honor and pride comes before the fall. Many of you look stupid today and you got degrees from Big U. I am certain God is real. I am certain Satan is real. I am certain they & them killed Jesus. I am certain you got poisoned. I am certain there is a path to a healthy body, mind and soul. All you have to do is eat crow and eat it publicly. Admit you were wrong, and I am certain you will feel better inside. Good luck everyone. I love you!

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watfly said:
Give Israel bunker busting bombs and let them take care of it. I'd be reluctant to get in any deeper than that. It may be unavoidable if Iran executes a serious attack against one of our bases in the Middle East.

I could be totally wrong, but Israel likely won't stop until Iran's nuclear capabilities are completely eliminated which could lead to a long drawn out conflict. It sounds like Israel doesn't have the deep penetrating weapons to wipe out the one nuclear facility, so they'd need our help with bunker busters.

America is for all intents and purposes already in it. I have to believe we have shared considerable intel with Israel, if not strategy.
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From what I can tell, we currently have plausible deniability from involvement, which we should keep. If we give Israel bunker busters, then we have certainly painted a target (bigger than now) on every US base in the Middle East. We have also removed any credibility as honest brokers in any negotiations with Iran.

Netanyahu has been wanting to go after Iran for decades. He has said they are "this close" to nuclear bombs for the same time period. He has wanted to drag the US into a war with Iran, just like he did everything he could to drag us into the war with Iraq, including Congressional testimony about how awesome the ME would be post-Saddam.

  • Both Gabbard, in March, and the IAEA stated that Iran is not developing nuclear weapons. There were concerns from the IAEA about some access.
  • Iran has had the technical ability to build nukes for decades. That genie is well out of the bottle. It hasn't done so. You can't bomb that knowledge away. Killing 9 nuclear scientists has zero impact either, they have hundreds in their nuclear program.
  • Destroying their existing facilities may set them back a couple of years at best, what then?
  • Assuming no regime change, the likeliest reaction from Iran would be that they need nukes, maybe just buy them from Pakistan or get the uranium there.
 
whatithink said:
I say IDK, because I don't. I can speculate that maybe someone thought it would play well with the Hispanic voters and would lock that demographic in "for a generation", but that's speculation on my behalf.

That speculation doesn't even make sense to me, as the illegals are in competition with a portion of the legals in that demographic.

So I'm back to IDK, it made no sense to me at the time and still makes no sense to me now.

Stating that it was done for votes from illegals is clearly BS.
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It's not BS. It's the logical assumption. Dems are losing black and brown votes and are known as being the party of "empathy". Empathy as in, come here and we'll give you money. We'll give you a driver's license. We'll give you food stamps. We'll give you healthcare. And yes, those that came here legally aren't going to support that shit. They work too hard. For the last several years, the dems have gone soft on crime and soft on the border. Flaccid as fuck. Oh, and by the way, they're pushing the, "it's racist to ask for I.D. when someone votes." They're now letting illegal aliens... and that's EXACTLY what they are, vote in local elections. Psshh... GTFOH.

Now you sound like Biden. "what border crisis? there's no border crisis. oh shit, Trump won't let us solve the border crisis."

Are you kidding me?
 
whatithink said:
I say IDK, because I don't. I can speculate that maybe someone thought it would play well with the Hispanic voters and would lock that demographic in "for a generation", but that's speculation on my behalf.

That speculation doesn't even make sense to me, as the illegals are in competition with a portion of the legals in that demographic.

So I'm back to IDK, it made no sense to me at the time and still makes no sense to me now.

Stating that it was done for votes from illegals is clearly BS.
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Like fly said most Hispanic people I know are deeply conservative. Old school conservative, family, religion, community, country, not maga for the most part, but some want to be as American as they can and if they are surrounded by maga . . .
 
Slobodan said:
It's not BS. It's the logical assumption. Dems are losing black and brown votes and are known as being the party of "empathy". Empathy as in, come here and we'll give you money. We'll give you a driver's license. We'll give you food stamps. We'll give you healthcare. And yes, those that came here legally aren't going to support that shit. They work too hard. For the last several years, the dems have gone soft on crime and soft on the border. Flaccid as fuck. Oh, and by the way, they're pushing the, "it's racist to ask for I.D. when someone votes." They're now letting illegal aliens... and that's EXACTLY what they are, vote in local elections. Psshh... GTFOH.

Now you sound like Biden. "what border crisis? there's no border crisis. oh shit, Trump won't let us solve the border crisis."

Are you kidding me?
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Illegal immigrants can't vote anywhere in the US in any election, local, state or federal. Legal immigrants, non-citizens, can vote in some local elections, but cannot vote in any Federal elections.

I've said in B&W that Biden fucked up the border, why the comprehension issue?

Your assertion that illegals are voting is BS. Your rationale is hyperbolic blah blah.
 
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