If you have a Cybertruck we can no longer be friends. Any other Tesla, that's fine.
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You have to concede it supports the narrative that if you charge enough for something, some asshole is going to buy it.
Hüsker Dü
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If you have a cybertruck you have more money than taste or common sense. First time I saw one we were out walking the dogs and I thought it was a joke or something the high school shop kids built (do they even have auto-shop anymore?) or both.
Dems aren't happy.
Nope
They shouldn't have tinted windows so we can see who the DBs are.
Husker, they still have the auto shop at Valhalla, unfortunately they haven't had an auto shop class in years. The principal has talked about bringing it back. Mira Mesa HS I know has an active auto shop.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Before it came out in production there was a VR for a “built-in” camper (not Tesla produced) that opened up. That was cool and I’d definitely wanted that … along with wanting to be 18 again so I’d actually get regular use out of it.
Hüsker Dü
DA
The world needs more mechanics and less lawyers.
I agree
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Damn, a loss!
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
* fewer
- little e probably
Hüsker Dü
DA
As to the social change "idea" that there is nothing that will replace capitalism, a foolish notion once fronted by a fellow named Francis Fukuyama as being "the end of history," we remember that capitalism, that exists in some variety and always with a mixed economy with elements of "socialism" contained within it, is a relatively recent social reality. Capitalism, as we know it, is not some immutable law of nature but a historical construct that emerged under particular conditions and continues to evolve. The notion that it represents the "end of history" is laughable when we consider the long arc of human social and economic arrangements—most of which have not resembled capitalism in its modern form.
Even today, no capitalist system exists in a pure form. Every economy that claims to be capitalist is, in reality, a hybrid with various degrees of state intervention, public welfare measures, and collective economic planning. The idea that there is "no alternative" is less an observation of reality and more an ideological imposition meant to foreclose discussion of systemic change.
History teaches us that social and economic systems are transient. Feudalism once seemed permanent until it wasn’t. The same will be true for capitalism. The only real question is what comes next—and whether it will be shaped by those seeking a more just and equitable world or by those who would entrench the current vast inequities under a different name. Care to guess what the current fascist regime at the head of the U.S. government means to have? It’s clear that the forces steering the U.S. toward authoritarianism aren’t interested in merely preserving capitalism as it currently exists—they aim to refashion it into a system that secures permanent dominance for an oligarchic elite while crushing any potential resistance from below. This is a capitalism stripped of its democratic veneer, where state power is wielded openly to protect corporate and ruling-class interests while suppressing dissent.
What they mean to have is a state where economic and political power are fused, where capital is no longer merely influential over government but indistinguishable from it. This isn’t the free-market fantasy some neoliberals like to imagine—it’s something much darker, closer to the "national capitalism" of historical fascist regimes, where industry and government work hand in hand to enforce social hierarchy, nationalist identity, and total obedience.
The endgame isn’t about innovation or competition—it’s about control. The rich will still be rich, but now with the added power of the state ensuring they never have to worry about workers organizing, about regulations impeding their profits, or about any democratic mechanisms threatening their rule. Dissenters, whether labor organizers, activists, or journalists, will find themselves criminalized or silenced outright.
So, what do they mean to have? A system where capitalism remains, but democracy does not. Where wealth isn’t just power—it is law. Where the state is no longer a regulator of capital but its enforcer, ensuring that the almost all of us stay where they are: subjugated, precarious, and afraid.
Even today, no capitalist system exists in a pure form. Every economy that claims to be capitalist is, in reality, a hybrid with various degrees of state intervention, public welfare measures, and collective economic planning. The idea that there is "no alternative" is less an observation of reality and more an ideological imposition meant to foreclose discussion of systemic change.
History teaches us that social and economic systems are transient. Feudalism once seemed permanent until it wasn’t. The same will be true for capitalism. The only real question is what comes next—and whether it will be shaped by those seeking a more just and equitable world or by those who would entrench the current vast inequities under a different name. Care to guess what the current fascist regime at the head of the U.S. government means to have? It’s clear that the forces steering the U.S. toward authoritarianism aren’t interested in merely preserving capitalism as it currently exists—they aim to refashion it into a system that secures permanent dominance for an oligarchic elite while crushing any potential resistance from below. This is a capitalism stripped of its democratic veneer, where state power is wielded openly to protect corporate and ruling-class interests while suppressing dissent.
What they mean to have is a state where economic and political power are fused, where capital is no longer merely influential over government but indistinguishable from it. This isn’t the free-market fantasy some neoliberals like to imagine—it’s something much darker, closer to the "national capitalism" of historical fascist regimes, where industry and government work hand in hand to enforce social hierarchy, nationalist identity, and total obedience.
The endgame isn’t about innovation or competition—it’s about control. The rich will still be rich, but now with the added power of the state ensuring they never have to worry about workers organizing, about regulations impeding their profits, or about any democratic mechanisms threatening their rule. Dissenters, whether labor organizers, activists, or journalists, will find themselves criminalized or silenced outright.
So, what do they mean to have? A system where capitalism remains, but democracy does not. Where wealth isn’t just power—it is law. Where the state is no longer a regulator of capital but its enforcer, ensuring that the almost all of us stay where they are: subjugated, precarious, and afraid.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
ChatGPT needs a “shorter answer” option.
The Hunters are now the hunted.
Watch Pedo chasers practice for the big take down: https://1a-1791.com/video/fwe1/dd/s8/2/U/i/-/r/Ui-ry.caa.mp4?b=1&u=ummtf
Watch Pedo chasers practice for the big take down: https://1a-1791.com/video/fwe1/dd/s8/2/U/i/-/r/Ui-ry.caa.mp4?b=1&u=ummtf