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watfly said:
You're confusing arbitration with mediation. A mediator never expresses support for either side.
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I guess we both experienced mediation after deposition. Mediator is there for a nice pay day and to tell both sides to make a fucking deal before the days up or go to trial or die before trial and get nothing. Scare tactics are in play and he or she is good at playing with fear. One side thinks they got 4 aces while the other side is wanting their insurance company to pick up the tab. The best part of depositions and mediation is watching liars get caught red handed in lie after lie. No justice in mediation though and 99% of all lawsuits in up with a mediator. Mediator will beat the shit out of both sides, wear you down emotionally, come up with shit you never thought of before to scare you even more and make you feel like you could lose and be the loser the other side thinks you are. It only takes one juror to go against the plaintiff. If one had the four aces but was too emotional on the stand, then he or she could lose at trial and get nothing. Or, the emotional one could win and then the loser could appeal and drag on forever and ever. So, the mediator will let each side know of the dangers of not taking a deal that day. A friend of mine who owns a rather large business has been sued a few times and always has to go through his business insurance. He had one lady accuse him of nonsense but to have her go away, she got paid.
 
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kickingandscreaming said:
He says, “we received just over 75”, and “that is 100 billion … we have never received”. You’re up, sunshine. Where does Zelenskyy say this money “all the money appropriated hasn’t been sent”?

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The cash got lost on its way to Zelensky the actor. Gee, I wonder where it went. Kash will take a peek and then probably hand over to the DOD for Military Tribunals down at the Y in Cuba
 
I encourage you to take some shrooms first and then watch this clip. We truly have lived a very sick matrix type of soul work that is insane. I'm here so I'm just dealing with the cards i was dealt. First off, the house is rigged 100%. We each born with a certificate of birth for slavery and assigned a number to track your ass and make sure you pay your fair share. If you wanted to really get ahead in the game, you had to sell your soul, become a snitch, obey liars and cheat to win. This is place is insane and were about to see how sick these insane people can be toward little children.

Watch for a hell of a laugh: https://1a-1791.com/video/fwe2/f6/s8/2/B/w/j/_/Bwj_x.caa.mp4?b=1&u=ummtf
 
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I feel like were watching a crime thriller with suspense and it's about to take a very dark turn into hell. What these poor kids have been through is pure evil. These sick fucks have no remorse or empathy when others are tortured, especially little kids. These people are ruthless animals with no sympathy towards others. Nope, they just think for themselves and how they can win and win always. They will cheat, kill, lie, steal and start wars to make a buck. They love war that never ends, and they love it when other people's kids go fight endless wars that never really end, they just keep going for gravy train cash. What a sick way to live on earth, trying to make money on war, rape, kidnapping kids, drug smuggling pilot, drug runner or pimp. What a loser way to live


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watfly said:
I don't see it as Putin appeasement. I see it as Trump trying to end the war and playing mediator to get a settlement. Have you ever been in a mediation? I've been in several. The mediator will beat up both sides, even if they believe one is right, in order to resolve the dispute. A mediator couldn't care less about the specifics of the settlement, or who appears to be the prevailing party, as long as the parties resolve the dispute. I believe that Trump doesn't give a rats ass about which country gets a better deal as long the war is ended. The citizens of both countries lose if the war continues and the US loses if it keeps having to fund it. Would I be as deferential to Putin as Trump? No, but who am I to say if he can negotiate an end to the war. Doing nothing, except feeding the war machine like Biden did, has only prolonged the war if not allowing it to happen in the first place.

There are legitimate things to criticize Trump for, but this is not one of then...at least not yet.
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I'm on the fence with you looking down at the lunacy on both sides, from shrieking “handouts to everyone” Maxine Waters on on side to crazy, and even more dangerous, far right Christian nationalist Steve Bannon on the other. You are spot on most of your takes, very reasoned and reasonable. However, on this one, a mediator needs to be neutral, and definitely cannot benefit from one side losing. Here, we are demanding 50% of the rare earth minerals from Ukraine for continued support. That is definitely not a mediation. And, you are correct that a mediator will beat up on both sides. In this case, the US is beating up only on one side. I have not heard one negative thing said about the actual aggressor, Putin. This is straight out of the Neville Chamberlain book on negotiation. Nuclear armed Russia is a different cat than Germany, but you don't start giving everything away even before the negotiations start.
 
espola said:
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"I don't see it as Putin appeasement. I see it as Trump trying to end the war and playing mediator to get a settlement."
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When has Trump expressed support for Russia attacking Ukraine? Criticizing Ukraine is not support for Russia. Appeasement was Husker's word, not mine, as I made abundantly clear.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
This statement is not supported. Fact check finds it to be false.
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Check your video, he said they had received 75 of the 175 appropriated, ergo it hadn't been sent. 75 hasn't been sent anywhere and the rest wasn't all intended to be sent to Ukraine, its all in the politifact piece, if you care to read and comprehend. You always have the choice, but rarely seem to use it, weird really. Multiple audits have taken place and one potential fraud of $40M has been uncovered, again in the piece.

I mean, who cares about Ukraine, they're just a useful political foil - let's extort them for $500B while ignoring that other countries have also contributed and collectively contributed more than the US. Let's spread Russian lies by stating that they started the war and that Zelensky is a dictator or that he only has 4% support. I mean, what the absolute fuck are you actually defending.
 
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