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[watfly]

It might be a good thing that an administration finally takes a good, hard look at government waste and abuse. The first thing Elon and Vivek should cut or eliminate is public employee pensions. The public employees have been bleeding the American Taxpayer dry for years, especially in California. As a group, the biggest gamers of the system have been the firefighter and police unions where the pension cost could last up to 30 years. With cost of living increases, the pension costs, in many cases, can easily exceed the cost of the working years pay. If you want to get glimpse of the tip of the iceberg:

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401k, like everyone else. There hasn't been a major new non-government pension established in something like 30 years.

Unfortunately, union pensions are not going anywhere. The unions are too politically connected particularly on the left.

 

[Hüsker Dü]

It might be a good thing that an administration finally takes a good, hard look at government waste and abuse. The first thing Elon and Vivek should cut or eliminate is public employee pensions. The public employees have been bleeding the American Taxpayer dry for years, especially in California. As a group, the biggest gamers of the system have been the firefighter and police unions where the pension cost could last up to 30 years. With cost of living increases, the pension costs, in many cases, can easily exceed the cost of the working years pay. If you want to get glimpse of the tip of the iceberg:

2023 pensions for CalPERS | Transparent California

Search California public, government employee, workers salaries, pensions and compensation

transparentcalifornia.com

2023 pensions for Orange County Employees Retirement System (OCERS) | Transparent California

Search California public, government employee, workers salaries, pensions and compensation

transparentcalifornia.com

Your blame is misguided

 

[Hüsker Dü]

401k, like everyone else. There hasn't been a major new non-government pension established in something like 30 years.

Unfortunately, union pensions are not going anywhere. The unions are too politically connected particularly on the left.

And to think, they have a hard enough time attracting good talent now.

 

[watfly]

And to think, they have a hard enough time attracting good talent now.

Good talent in government, that's rare...pension or no pension.

 

[kickingandscreaming]

In other words, yes, you are having trouble seeing the difference.

If qualified means “has a history of behavior which supports their obligation to serve the people”, then your average police officer is qualified to serve as attorney general. They clearly are not, because that’s not what the word means.

Qualified only says "this person has the depth and breadth of experience necessary to do the job.".

When I say Bondi or Garland is qualified, it means they have the required resume. That is all.

We can have the “ignored Hunter Biden’s crimes” discussion about Garland while we have the “ignored Trump University’s crimes” discussion about Bondi. But neither one is a question of qualifications.

Here are the qualifications for President. There is no “required resume”.
- 35 years of age
- Natural born citizen
- Resident of US for at least 14 years

Pass the above, win your party’s nomination (or, if you suck as bad as Kamala, be appointed), then win the electoral college, and you are President. Any “qualifications” beyond that are subjective. You think Kamala is well-qualified.You couldn’t possibly do more to undermine your “qualification” argument. That tells me you lack judgement as you are incapable of identifying an obviously incompetent leader with deficiencies in critical thinking.

 

[crush]

On a positive note we will simply need to tighten our collective belts once Trump’s policies take hold. It won’t be forever just a few years.

Positive for you Husker Du. I see your getting the skills needed to deal with your TDS.

Step 1: Trump won't be President forever
Step 2: Trump won't.........

 

[crush]

Here are the qualifications for President. There is no “required resume”.
- 35 years of age
- Natural born citizen
- Resident of US for at least 14 years

Pass the above, win your party’s nomination (or, if you suck as bad as Kamala, be appointed), then win the electoral college, and you are President. Any “qualifications” beyond that are subjective. You think Kamala is well-qualified.You couldn’t possibly do more to undermine your “qualification” argument. That tells me you lack judgement as you are incapable of identifying an obviously incompetent leader with deficiencies in critical thinking.

Did you see Kamala's message yesterday to her supporters? She sounded drunk again and just a little off. This is the person Husker Du, espola and dad wanted to win because, "anyone but Trump" is what They & Them wanted.

 

[crush]

 

[Slobodan]

On a positive note we will simply need to tighten our collective belts once Trump’s policies take hold. It won’t be forever just a few years. It will eventually be for the greater good and then the gains made will be felt more significantly amongst those within the higher tax brackets. Healthcare/drug prices, public services, public schools, the environment, food costs, insurance premiums and a number of other costs will rise, but hopefully, OPEC willing, fuel prices will remain stable and possibly level off.

Our belts can't be tightened any further, dipshit. Because of Biden trying to buy votes from college deadbeats, get the 10% Big Guy kickbacks from Ukraine and paying the bills of 15,000,000 illegal aliens you losers invited here to change the election grid, the working American taxpayer had to sell our fucking pants to afford food.

Ass clown.

 

[Happened again]

On a positive note we will simply need to tighten our collective belts once Trump’s policies take hold. It won’t be forever just a few years. It will eventually be for the greater good and then the gains made will be felt more significantly amongst those within the higher tax brackets. Healthcare/drug prices, public services, public schools, the environment, food costs, insurance premiums and a number of other costs will rise, but hopefully, OPEC willing, fuel prices will remain stable and possibly level off.

I know you pulled this from the interweb and copied/pasted it...but explain to me how all of this happens..or at least how you understand it happens...knowing that you are a consumer of state run propaganda.

 

[crush]

Our belts can't be tightened any further, dipshit. Because of Biden trying to buy votes from college deadbeats, get the 10% Big Guy kickbacks from Ukraine and paying the bills of 15,000,000 illegal aliens you losers invited here to change the election grid, the working American taxpayer had to sell our fucking pants to afford food.

Ass clown.

Husker Du is clueless. They & Them wanted the Middle Class replaced. These are bad dudes and they used science to cheat & lie.

 

[Hüsker Dü]

Good talent in government, that's rare...pension or no pension.

I mean like cops that are sadistic morons. I do agree many of the agreements made in the past need reworking, just don’t hate the players. Fire fighters and police have enormously difficult and trying jobs that are essential for a civil society. Without decent compensation we will go back to the good old days of rouge, on the take cops and private fire stations that only serve those that pay.

The whole rethinking of societal norms (possibly because certain people couldn’t grasp servitude and sacrifice for the common good) baffles me in a so called “educated nation”? Although self analysis is essential for healthy progression it seems the unaware have taken over that process and need it all simplified to fit their limited understanding.

 

[watfly]

I mean like cops that are sadistic morons. I do agree many of the agreements made in the past need reworking, just don’t hate the players. Fire fighters and police have enormously difficult and trying jobs that are essential for a civil society. Without decent compensation we will go back to the good old days of rouge, on the take cops and private fire stations that only serve those that pay.

The whole rethinking of societal norms (possibly because certain people couldn’t grasp servitude and sacrifice for the common good) baffles me in a so called “educated nation”? Although self analysis is essential for healthy progression it seems the unaware have taken over that process and need it all simplified to fit their limited understanding.

You're conflating issues. Pensions, and the power the pension organizations wield, have gotten out of control. You remember it almost bankrupting San Diego? I'm OK with a premium for 1st responders (within reason), but bureaucrats and other agency employees already get a premium with their minimal workload and inability to be fired. My daughter interned for a SD government organization and it was a complete joke. Employees played board games all day and made Starbuck runs. I know others that worked for the SEC and other public agencies and they said the lack of work effort was depressing. Shit, Austin did show up for work for days and nobody knew and he was the Secretary of Defense. Can you imagine what is happening at the lower levels.

Despite the stupid name, I hope Elon and Vivek can put a serious dent in bureaucratic waste. Not holding my breath, but we shall see.

 

[crush]

I mean like cops that are sadistic morons.

 

[crush]

You're conflating issues. Pensions, and the power the pension organizations wield, have gotten out of control. You remember it almost bankrupting San Diego? I'm OK with a premium for 1st responders (within reason), but bureaucrats and other agency employees already get a premium with their minimal workload and inability to be fired. My daughter interned for a SD government organization and it was a complete joke. Employees played board games all day and made Starbuck runs. I know others that worked for the SEC and other public agencies and they said the lack of work effort was depressing. Shit, Austin did show up for work for days and nobody knew and he was the Secretary of Defense. Can you imagine what is happening at the lower levels.

Despite the stupid name, I hope Elon and Vivek can put a serious dent in bureaucratic waste. Not holding my breath, but we shall see.

DOGE is going to be awesome

 

[whatithink]

Despite the stupid name, I hope Elon and Vivek can put a serious dent in bureaucratic waste. Not holding my breath, but we shall see.

Its enlightening to finally see a focus on overspending and an apparent intent on tackling it. That said, Elon & Vivek are no more than advisors with big microphones. They have zero power wrt federal spending and seem to lack basic knowledge on how it actually works.

I'm enjoying the show so far, popcorn refills all around.

 

[Slobodan]

I mean like cops that are sadistic morons. I do agree many of the agreements made in the past need reworking, just don’t hate the players. Fire fighters and police have enormously difficult and trying jobs that are essential for a civil society. Without decent compensation we will go back to the good old days of rouge, on the take cops and private fire stations that only serve those that pay.

The whole rethinking of societal norms (possibly because certain people couldn’t grasp servitude and sacrifice for the common good) baffles me in a so called “educated nation”? Although self analysis is essential for healthy progression it seems the unaware have taken over that process and need it all simplified to fit their limited understanding.

You're such a dumbass. Cops that are sadistic morons? You mean the ones that "have enormously difficult and trying jobs that are essential"? Which is it? Derek Chauvin is in prison because a violent, lifelong felon with more than 6 drugs in his system couldn't act like a civilized human being and go to jail like a man. Driving around the city, high as a kite, and passing counterfeit bills. Now he's a hero for the libtard party. Everyone should be thankful he didn't wipe out an entire family in the crosswalk before he was stopped.

Fentanyl Floyd didn't suffocate because you can't cry "I can't breathe" for 45 minutes and suffocate. There was NO physical damage to his anatomy yet we needed a fall guy to keep the race baiting losers at bay. Built a statue for a career criminal that held a gun to the belly of a pregnant woman while his buddies robbed her. What a hero.

That's why YOU lost the election. Your psychobabble about "societal norms" is more diarrhea of the mentally vacuous.

 

[espola]

You're conflating issues. Pensions, and the power the pension organizations wield, have gotten out of control. You remember it almost bankrupting San Diego? I'm OK with a premium for 1st responders (within reason), but bureaucrats and other agency employees already get a premium with their minimal workload and inability to be fired. My daughter interned for a SD government organization and it was a complete joke. Employees played board games all day and made Starbuck runs. I know others that worked for the SEC and other public agencies and they said the lack of work effort was depressing. Shit, Austin did show up for work for days and nobody knew and he was the Secretary of Defense. Can you imagine what is happening at the lower levels.

Despite the stupid name, I hope Elon and Vivek can put a serious dent in bureaucratic waste. Not holding my breath, but we shall see.

The San Diego City pension crisis was caused by the decision of Mayor Susan Golding and a compliant City Council to shortchange the annual contribution to the pension fund so that the money could be used to finance the 1996 Republican Presidential Nominating Convention in San Diego, thus depleting the fund on the income side. The affected pool of City employees accepted the deal because arrangements were made to improve their pensions in the future, further depleting the fund on the outgo side.

 

[espola]

You're such a dumbass. Cops that are sadistic morons? You mean the ones that "have enormously difficult and trying jobs that are essential"? Which is it? Derek Chauvin is in prison because a violent, lifelong felon with more than 6 drugs in his system couldn't act like a civilized human being and go to jail like a man. Driving around the city, high as a kite, and passing counterfeit bills. Now he's a hero for the libtard party. Everyone should be thankful he didn't wipe out an entire family in the crosswalk before he was stopped.

Fentanyl Floyd didn't suffocate because you can't cry "I can't breathe" for 45 minutes and suffocate. There was NO physical damage to his anatomy yet we needed a fall guy to keep the race baiting losers at bay. Built a statue for a career criminal that held a gun to the belly of a pregnant woman while his buddies robbed her. What a hero.

That's why YOU lost the election. Your psychobabble about "societal norms" is more diarrhea of the mentally vacuous.

George Floyd’s autopsy report is not new, does not say he died of an overdose

As the three-year anniversary of Floyd’s death arrived on Thursday, some social media users shared what they erroneously claimed was new evidence about the circumstances of his passing.

apnews.com

 

[Slobodan]

George Floyd’s autopsy report is not new, does not say he died of an overdose

As the three-year anniversary of Floyd’s death arrived on Thursday, some social media users shared what they erroneously claimed was new evidence about the circumstances of his passing.

apnews.com

Here's the autopsy. And not the one paid for by race baiting Ben Crump and Floyd's family. Read it and weep. You know who doesn't die from being kept on the ground? People that comply with law enforcement. Even experienced, violent criminals that comply, don't kick the shit out of the police car and don't cry "ah cain'tz breeves" before they even get him out of his OWN car. He was a violent, worthless, piece of shit human being who contributed nothing good to society and died because of his own actions.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6992-george-floyd-full-autopsy/4c5bdf52fbbd775ce156/optimized/full.pdf