Bruddah IZ
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Here is where we agree. A death rate of .00061463 is acceptable to me too. Which is why I think we should be playing Soccer in Cai instead of AZ.
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Bruddah IZ
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Just like the one size fits all policy that you people prefer.
And there you have it. I at least appreciate that you admit that you believe 350,000 plus another 3,000 a day are acceptable losses so your daughter can play soccer, even if you try to make that sound better by using (an albeit inaccurate) death rate. FYI, the current 3,000 people dying of Covid per day is an annualized death rate over a million people per year.
One size fits all policy eh? A policy that treats regions differently based on their transmission and death rates does not constitute a one-size-fits-all policy. Nor does one that treats different sports differently. Nor does one that treats different industries differently. Nor does one in which individual cities and counties impose their own restrictions and requirements.
You aren’t getting what you want, sure, but it’s pretty ridiculous to think that this mere fact makes a one-size-fits-all policy. The mere fact that you think this and can’t even see beyond yourself and how the policies do and don’t impact others is, well, highly indicative of the American Way.
Desert Hound
DA
The fact that you think most of the world tracks and tests individuals like the US is funny.
I have been to over 40 countries for work. The vast vast majority are very inefficient and corrupt. Most are relatively poor as well.
They don't have the money to test/track everyone or anywhere close to it.
Go look at that list. Tell me if you believe for instance Bangladesh has just 45 deaths per million? Chad shows as 6 per million?
And then look at many of the others.
Comparing the U.S. favorably to impoverished third world countries is not the great argument that you think it is. Funny how y’all went from rah rah America is the best to rah rah America is better than Bangladesh.
Desert Hound
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I am simply pointing out that when you state 200 countries are doing better vs the US, you have no idea what you are talking about. And I gave you some reasons and examples why.
But continue on pretending those other countries are doing better to continue your argument with the posters above.
So we should continue these policies post COVID since they’re so beneficial for society? I hope the answer to that question is obvious.
To quote Gavin’s baseball analogy from his press conference, yesterday. “Unlike baseball, you don’t get credit for saves”
Why does it have to the American way. I a big fan of the good ol USA and take some offense to your obtuse rhetoric. And not that I'm looking for you to say the pledge of allegiance or anything. Disregarding the welfare and lives of other is a human condition. How many times have you done it? How many times have you read a text or texted while driving? How many times have you had 1 beer or 1 glass of wine then driven home? Within that context, does that make you patriotic? If you haven't done any of these, then you are on a Mother Teresa level like no other.
You don't have to answer any of these questions, but you get my drift.
Actually, talk to Gavy about them hospital bed thingies. I'm pretty sure Poland has more beds available than the mighty state of CA does - and that's before COVID. There would be less pucker factoring going on in your healthcare community if the gubment of Kalifornia knew how to manage budgets and administrate hospitals. Doesn't it piss you off that your tax dollars are being mismanaged and now you could potentially suffer if you step outside of your enclosed parlor?
Someone read a text while driving, so therefore it’s completely fine to spread covid at will and kill as many people as you like. That is not the great argument that you think it is. Rationalizing selfish, irresponsible behavior because someone else engaged in different selfish irresponsible behavior is a pretty messed up argument.
BTW, how many people die every year in drunk driving and texting accidents? Is it 3,000 a day?
Sincerely,
Mother Theresa
You heard it here first. @happy9 came out in support of socialized medicine! Finally we are making some societal progress! I actually agree with you that the U.S. wouldn’t be in such a mess with Covid right now if we had universal healthcare. In fact, that would completely eliminate your buddy’s concern that people are dying because they lost their healthcare with their job.
At least get her name right. Who's rationalizing anything? I inquired about your generalization. Are you telling me that you've never texted while driving? Is their a British way? A German Way? A European way?
Building hospital capacity does not equal socialized medicine, but good try. But, to take your spin on things, if we build hospital capacity to match socialized healthcare requirements, there would likely be less hospital beds. Just ask any of your Canadian buddies. They rank at the bottom for available beds and staff. They spend almost 12% of their GDP on healthcare, 2nd behind Switzerland.
But you would make a great journalist for The Atlantic or a great commentator on MsDnC.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Your modeling is not factual. Total alleged covid deaths are 326,322 and yesterdays death rate is 1491. 19,072,721 cases nationwide puts us at 1.7% IFR.
Ha ha. Making the government responsible for building and paying for hospital beds is exactly socialized medicine. Gosh, it’s Gavin’s fault for having big government, and also Gavin’s fault for not having big enough government. I get it.
Do you want to know another interesting fact, which is that the U.S. also has one of the highest death rates in the world due to drunk driving. Like I said, the American Way. Don’t give a s**t about others. It’s your fault for being on the road where there there is always a risk of drunk drivers. It’s also your fault for going to the grocery store or living in a nursing home where there is a risk of getting covid. Right?
Bruddah IZ
DA
I think you just made a case for why AZ hosted Surf Cup.
Like I said earlier, going to a kiddie soccer tournament in AZ because “only” 326,323 are dead so far due to covid and another 3,000 a day is not the great argument you think it is.
That is one way to absolve yourself of responsibility for your irresponsible behavior. If it’s legal, then I should do it because I want to, regardless of the impact it will have on the lives of others. The American Way.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Back to the one size fits all?