Surf Cup's Fate

[SoccerFan4Life]

Sure. Kids definitely become better players at smaller clubs. That explains why zero kids from smaller clubs go to Stanford and very few at UCLA, or any major college program.

Suit yourself. What’s the catchy re: line of choice in unsolicited emails these days? I know how these coaches much prefer to spend hundreds of hours reading emails and watching random game video. Definitely more efficient than Baker or Deza calling to say they have a girl who wants to go to their school and is good enough.

So you are sending your daughter a message that if you want to make it to the best program, you need to put up with an ahole coach that yells and screams at you all the time. The demeaning behavior is acceptable as long as you make it to UCLA??

 

[EOTL]

So you are sending your daughter a message that if you want to make it to the best program, you need to put up with an ahole coach that yells and screams at you all the time. The demeaning behavior is acceptable as long as you make it to UCLA??

I used Baker and Deza as examples dumbs**t. That should be obvious from the words “such as”, but we know you’re a dumbs**t, so I’m not surprised you need further assistance understanding what words mean when put into complete sentences.

Baker is definitely not for everyone, especially kids with low self esteem and/or helicopter parents, and also kids who suck. I fully understand that we live in a world in which raising one’s voice ever is now often considered “abuse”, as is expecting “elite” athletes to run sprints, or a coach telling a player that he doesn’t agree with her helicopter daddy’s attempts to tell him what to do. Funny how so many folks gloss over the actual physical and sexual abuse that has gone on all around them including in the steepled houses of bigotry they hold so dearly, yet they blow a gasket when an unfit DI athlete whines that one time she got lightheaded running sprints.

 

[oh canada]

I have never championed a cause either way. Everyone can make their own choice. Surf is a business and they have the right to run it if it is allowed by cities in AZ. Yes, our team is going. I don't shit on people who choose not to.

Will you still go and play if your kid has to wear a mask during the game (serious question)? See below--one of the measures White House Task Force is telling AZ they need to do is a statewide mask mandate:

White House Coronavirus Task Force: Arizona needs 'aggressive' statewide measures

A document prepared for the White House Coronavirus Task Force late last month concluded that Arizona is not doing enough.

www.azmirror.com

 

[EOTL]

13 players at Stanford and UCLA over 4-5 years. Congratulations.

Now how many knee surgeries over that same time period? 30?

I find it interesting that you mentioned PSV. PSV just churns out injuries. He’s got kids playing in 2 or 3 leagues, practice 6-7 days a week. I’ve watched a kid get carried off the field in tears, holding her knee, go back in the game 10 minutes later, then carried off the field again. Absolutely no concern for the health and well-being of the child.

Never said I was a fan of the PSV guy. There are other options up north who can get you 90% of the way to where you belong and want to go just by picking up the phone.

 

[Kicker4Life]

I used Baker and Deza as examples dumbs**t. That should be obvious from the words “such as”, but we know you’re a dumbs**t, so I’m not surprised you need further assistance understanding what words mean when put into complete sentences.

Baker is definitely not for everyone, especially kids with low self esteem and/or helicopter parents, and also kids who suck. I fully understand that we live in a world in which raising one’s voice ever is now often considered “abuse”, as is expecting “elite” athletes to run sprints, or a coach telling a player that he doesn’t agree with her helicopter daddy’s attempts to tell him what to do. Funny how so many folks gloss over the actual physical and sexual abuse that has gone on all around them including in the steepled houses of bigotry they hold so dearly, yet they blow a gasket when an unfit DI athlete whines that one time she got lightheaded running sprints.

Just can’t help but to call people names.....Does throwing a clipboard and someone count as “abuse” in your world? Seems more like you can relate to Baker cause you mistreat people in a similar manner.

In short, a good Coach will advocate and help players get into Top schools, that’s why you choose a Coach not a Club or League.

 

[happy9]

I have never championed a cause either way. Everyone can make their own choice. Surf is a business and they have the right to run it if it is allowed by cities in AZ. Yes, our team is going. I don't shit on people who choose not to.

I don't disagree with any of this. Surf is indeed a business a business and an important part of the CA soccer landscape. Cities in AZ also have a right to protect their business interests and those of their citizens.

Please point out where I've shit on anyone's choice to come and play if Surf occurs. The topic of the discussion is Surf Cup's Fate, not don't come to Surf Cup. You are arguing that in spite of current health and political conditions in AZ, that Surf should somehow be allowed to carry on as if nothing is happening. But something is happening, a lot is happening, and changing on a daily basis.

A decision will be made here at some point. I will live with that decision and move on with my life. Professionally, there are systems in place that will allow my family and I weather any backlash, if they happen. If they don't, then good. On top of that, if our club decides to play, my youngest will play, like we've done almost every weekend since late AUG. Much easier for me since I live a short distance to fields in Scottsdale.

No one is denying your right to choose, but your right to choose doesn't mean I (or others) have to agree with your choice, your views, and your opinion. It's why these forums exist. They are not designed to confirm your bias, they are designed to share information, get into stupid arguments, and engage intellectually with people across the soccer landscape.

 

[happy9]

Will you still go and play if your kid has to wear a mask during the game (serious question)? See below--one of the measures White House Task Force is telling AZ they need to do is a statewide mask mandate:

White House Coronavirus Task Force: Arizona needs 'aggressive' statewide measures

A document prepared for the White House Coronavirus Task Force late last month concluded that Arizona is not doing enough.

www.azmirror.com

It's happening in Maryland. Do I agree, nope, is it happening, yep. Are they complaining? Nope. Are they playing? Yep.

ILWomen Fall All-Access: Maryland Looking Forward Despite Pandemic

(Photo Courtesy: Maryland Athletics) As the nation battles COVID, mental health has become top-of-mind as people adjust to working

www.insidelacrosse.com

 

[crush]

Just can’t help but to call people names.....Does throwing a clipboard and someone count as “abuse” in your world? Seems more like you can relate to Baker cause you mistreat people in a similar manner.

In short, a good Coach will advocate and help players get into Top schools, that’s why you choose a Coach not a Club or League.

Or, you choose a club to win medals. Everyone had their reasons to have their dd play in the gaming circuit.

 

[SoccerFan4Life]

I used Baker and Deza as examples dumbs**t. That should be obvious from the words “such as”, but we know you’re a dumbs**t, so I’m not surprised you need further assistance understanding what words mean when put into complete sentences.

Baker is definitely not for everyone, especially kids with low self esteem and/or helicopter parents, and also kids who suck.

lmao. Nice personality trait there buddy. From your logic (Statement) listed above, kids that dont play for Baker either suck or have low self esteem. My niece was neither and she is doing just fine at UCLA. My point was dont put up with crap from coaches berrating kids because it;s not worth it. The days of Bobby Knight type coaching are over.

 

[dad4]

Never said I was a fan of the PSV guy. There are other options up north who can get you 90% of the way to where you belong and want to go just by picking up the phone.

At the point when you say there are several options, we can agree. There are lots of clubs and lots of coaches, find one that works for your child. If she likes a super aggressive style, that’s her choice. If she thinks it’s rude and demeaning, then leave.

 

[happy9]

Will you still go and play if your kid has to wear a mask during the game (serious question)? See below--one of the measures White House Task Force is telling AZ they need to do is a statewide mask mandate:

White House Coronavirus Task Force: Arizona needs 'aggressive' statewide measures

A document prepared for the White House Coronavirus Task Force late last month concluded that Arizona is not doing enough.

www.azmirror.com

And of course there is Massachusetts which I guess has been doing this for some time.

Is This Still Soccer? (Published 2020)

In Massachusetts, rule changes brought on by the pandemic — no contact, no tackles, no headers, no throw-ins — are forcing soccer players and coaches to adapt to a very different game.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Kicker4Life]

Or, you choose a club to win medals. Everyone had their reasons to have their dd play in the gaming circuit.

And then whine about it incessantly when The luster of the shiny metal wears off. Sorry for college coaches don’t recruit based on medals around your neck the recruit based on performance on the field.

 

[crush]

And then whine about it incessantly when The luster of the shiny metal wears off. Sorry for college coaches don’t recruit based on medals around your neck the recruit based on performance on the field.

Do you have your squad from South Bay for a friendly? High School age only. We start HS practice late February, how bout you?

 

[Kicker4Life]

Do you have your squad from South Bay for a friendly? High School age only. We start HS practice late February, how bout you?

That’ll be a hard pass on anything you are involved with.

 

[crush]

Tech FC, Crush FC needs a squad to battle. I have a field, shhhhhhh!!!! IE has best talent out there, MOO. South Bay is a hard no. At least Kicker is talking to me now. Dude, I forgive you. Let it go. Please forgive me too because I did ask you for forgiveness. How about San Fernando Valley? San Diego? Free soccer for all. Get a team. I now have a team ready to ball. No parents allowed. Girls drive themselves or hitch a ride. Refs only and zero parents. Just friendly to stay in shape. I'm sorry to hear some would never participate with me. I said sorry long time ago too. I'm not perfect either and had my share of failures the last three sum years.

 

[happy9]

AZ GA clubs have pulled their teams from Surf.

Surf could not answer the following questions:
- How many teams will be in attendance (400 have pulled out)
- Field locations

I don't 100% know the status of the AZ ECNL teams.

 

[EOTL]

Just can’t help but to call people names.....Does throwing a clipboard and someone count as “abuse” in your world? Seems more like you can relate to Baker cause you mistreat people in a similar manner.

In short, a good Coach will advocate and help players get into Top schools, that’s why you choose a Coach not a Club or League.

I sincerely apologize. I should definitely treat someone who lacks reading comprehension and incorrectly claims I’m saying things I’m not with the dignity and respect they don’t deserve.

BTW, I’ve never hit anyone with a clipboard to the best of my recollection. Why are you so mean to @crush, anyway?

 

[soccer4us]

AZ GA clubs have pulled their teams from Surf.

Surf could not answer the following questions:
- How many teams will be in attendance (400 have pulled out)
- Field locations

I don't 100% know the status of the AZ ECNL teams.

How do you know the number pulled out? Just curious. Is their a current list anywhere?

 

[MSK357]

AZ GA clubs have pulled their teams from Surf.

Surf could not answer the following questions:
- How many teams will be in attendance (400 have pulled out)
- Field locations

I don't 100% know the status of the AZ ECNL teams.

So surf couldn't answer how many teams would be in attendance, but YOU know that 400 have pulled out? I call BS.

 

[happy9]

How do you know the number pulled out? Just curious. Is their a current list anywhere?

From a trusted source and Surf advocate. I haven't seen a list (haven't really looked). At this point, I think that number really doesn't mean anything. Sounds like Surf isn't able to secure fields, which makes sense based on footprint required and the low level of interest from other cities in the valley.

 

[happy9]

So surf couldn't answer how many teams would be in attendance, but YOU know that 400 have pulled out? I call BS.

You can call it whatever you want or conclude what you want from it. I don't know how many teams have pulled out, I was told how many teams have pulled out. Doesn't really matter, teams are pulling out left and right.