Surf Cup's Fate

EOTL said:
This all does suck for many 2021s and 22s. For many years I have recommended the benefits of playing for one of those few coaches (I think I actually coined the term “queenmaker”) who have real connections and whose recommendation to a college coach is as good as gold.

Even for 2023s and later, there is a significant risk that your kid will not be “found” given the highly uncertain status of the youth soccer landscape right now. If you want to take your chances as one of the thousands sending unsolicited emails with cute videos, and playing for a small club with a coach who goes to voicemail when he calls Radcliffe, Cromwell or anyone, go for it. But you know for sure that with the likes of Baker in the south and Deza in the north, a single phone call is all it takes. That’s it. Your kid gets to play anywhere they want if they’re good enough.
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Nice sales pitch.

What was your club's ratio of ACL tears to P5 letters of intent last year?

3 to 1? 4 to 1? Don't want to think about it because it's too embarassing?

Don't weasel out. U13 and up. Total surgeries versus total P5 scholarships. How'd you do?
 
There is no club coach who is a queen maker. That’s ridiculous to say. There’s no div 1 coach who is taking a phone call from any club coach as gospel. Zero. That’s crazy talk.
A club coach can say hey “I’ve got a player to check out” or “i’ve got a good one who is interested” but that’s it. And that’s true whether your club is a blue blood or a smaller one.

But no college coach is taking the word of a club coach to make an offer. Cromwell is not taking bakers word for it. That’s insane to suggest.
 
full90 said:
There is no club coach who is a queen maker. That’s ridiculous to say. There’s no div 1 coach who is taking a phone call from any club coach as gospel. Zero. That’s crazy talk.
A club coach can say hey “I’ve got a player to check out” or “i’ve got a good one who is interested” but that’s it. And that’s true whether your club is a blue blood or a smaller one.

But no college coach is taking the word of a club coach to make an offer. Cromwell is not taking bakers word for it. That’s insane to suggest.
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I can tell you with 100% certainty and personal knowledge that you are wrong. But that is what people on the outside like to think to make themselves feel better. Carry on with the emails and iMovie. It is such a joke to see people suggest that is the way when it could pretty much be wrapped up with a phone call.
 
Jose has returned said:
who do you think you are? you don't know anything about me or my situation. quit your virtual signaling and sit down. The AZ residents don't know who you are or give a crap about you. Go back into your bubble and stay there until you are told to come out. I'll be in AZ. Ill bet I don't even get covid or spread it? how much would you like to wager? put up or shut up
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lmao!! Where did I say anything about the AZ residents caring about my opinion? What exactly would we be wagering? I'm glad you are so triggered - maybe I have given you something to think about - you know, someone other than yourself? I wouldn't wish any harm to your DD or wish Covid on you. Again, I think you are missing the point but you go on and do you!!! Don't worry about the risk to the healthcare workers if God forbid something happens. God Bless!!
 
Calisoccer11 said:
lmao!! Where did I say anything about the AZ residents caring about my opinion? What exactly would we be wagering? I'm glad you are so triggered - maybe I have given you something to think about - you know, someone other than yourself? I wouldn't wish any harm to your DD or wish Covid on you. Again, I think you are missing the point but you go on and do you!!! Don't worry about the risk to the healthcare workers if God forbid something happens. God Bless!!
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Seriously? "..... I'm thinking about the residents of AZ and the healthcare workers there"......duh right there. the rest of your passive aggressive nonsense is worthless
 
EOTL said:
This all does suck for many 2021s and 22s. For many years I have recommended the benefits of playing for one of those few coaches (I think I actually coined the term “queenmaker”) who have real connections and whose recommendation to a college coach is as good as gold.

Even for 2023s and later, there is a significant risk that your kid will not be “found” given the highly uncertain status of the youth soccer landscape right now. If you want to take your chances as one of the thousands sending unsolicited emails with cute videos, and playing for a small club with a coach who goes to voicemail when he calls Radcliffe, Cromwell or anyone, go for it. But you know for sure that with the likes of Baker in the south and Deza in the north, a single phone call is all it takes. That’s it. Your kid gets to play anywhere they want if they’re good enough.
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This is spot on bro. I thought ((I thought wrong too)) that they would see how gr8t #8 was and they would be a line of coaches at my car trying to talk it up with her old man. Kind of the Lonza of club soccer.
 
EOTL said:
I can tell you with 100% certainty and personal knowledge that you are wrong. But that is what people on the outside like to think to make themselves feel better. Carry on with the emails and iMovie. It is such a joke to see people suggest that is the way when it could pretty much be wrapped up with a phone call.
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In fact, let me tell you how it goes @full90. A coach with real cred sits you down and asks you what you’re looking for in college, what schools you’re interested in, how important the money situation is, whether your grades will cut it if you’re interested in Ivy especially, and then tells you what schools are a fit based on your ability, skill set, and the other factors discussed. If he thinks your ability level is a fit, they make the call. You’re 90% there and all you need to do is not screw it up. It is that easy. College coaches know the likes of Baker and Deza do not oversell their players. They know Baker and Deza have a very good idea what they want.

Good luck doing it the hard way! What catchy re: lines are you putting into your unsolicited emails these days? What super hip music are y’all putting into the background of your iMovie videos? How does your kid stand out in all the voicemails they leave? So curious.
 
GT45 said:
Happy9 we get it. You do not want the Surf Cup to happen. Can you take your pessimistic attitude off these boards. There are plenty of top ECNL clubs going to Surf. A handful of clubs out of So Cal not attending is hardly a big deal. Coaches are recruiting off of video. You are such a downer on this post. Your username is ironic.
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You don't get me at all. Review my post history, I'm as pro play as they come and certainly anti lockdown. I'm offering an opinion and insight to the AZ landscape. I'm a pragmatist, not a pessimist. Take a peak out our local headlines and our Covid #s. Regardless of your virus views, government are going to be forced to act. I'm also a business owner, there are many like me. The virus winds are shifting the wrong way, and we know where that leads, just take a look at your state and the status of your local businesses. Maybe you are in a virus proof industry, many are not. While I don't subscribe to the hysterics of rona politics, I do acknowledge the potential effect of fear policy and realize I don't have much control over what is enacted. Thus I'm sensitive to what I think is irrational reactionary behavior by adults. It's like walking into the proverbial burning house.

IN MY OPINION - This is the wrong time to host an event that is going to attract negative national media at a time when the virus seems to be racing out of control in our state. Again, I'm not hysterical about infections rates, our fatality rates are falling. I would be a little miffed if my business and others are shut down because little johnny and sally had to get some game video in. Come back in FEB, hopefully by then we've settled this rona thing down a bit.

If you don't like to read what I have to say then hit the ignore button. Good thing about being an American is that we have the freedom to make choices. If you don't like what I am saying, scroll it along.
 
crush said:
This is spot on bro. I thought ((I thought wrong too)) that they would see how gr8t #8 was and they would be a line of coaches at my car trying to talk it up with her old man. Kind of the Lonza of club soccer.
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I am very glad that you don’t believe it is all just God’s will.
 
EOTL said:
I can tell you with 100% certainty and personal knowledge that you are wrong. But that is what people on the outside like to think to make themselves feel better. Carry on with the emails and iMovie. It is such a joke to see people suggest that is the way when it could pretty much be wrapped up with a phone call.
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I will say the % of kids who benefit from direct line coaches are very low. What you describe exists, but only for the very few. Most do the email and Imovie things. And please don't throw P5 into the mix. Many kids won't see the light of day at a P5 school. Most will send an email with video highlights to 20 schools and cross their fingers that someone notices.
 
GT45 said:
Happy9 we get it. You do not want the Surf Cup to happen. Can you take your pessimistic attitude off these boards. There are plenty of top ECNL clubs going to Surf. A handful of clubs out of So Cal not attending is hardly a big deal. Coaches are recruiting off of video. You are such a downer on this post. Your username is ironic.
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For the most part, you don't get it. Here is another potential nail in the coffin for Surf. Peoria is a rather conservative city, anti lockdown, and pro business. I don't know the details, but I'm sure Surf asked about Peoria fields, they have a few really nice facilities that have been used this year for State League and by the DA in the past. They also are hoping that Spring training, down the road, happens. They are insulating themselves.

Sometimes it's better to abide by the Should VS Could principle. We will see what happens.

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Peoria closes community center, halts city activities as COVID-19 cases rise

The city of Peoria is closing certain city facilities and activities in response a surge of coronavirus cases around the state.
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dad4 said:
Quite a few GA and ECNL teams have dropped already. I think the list from this thread is : Davis, Mustang, Thorns, Slammers, Beach, Quakes. Maybe more.

Do you know of anyone other than Blues and Surf who are definitely going?
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Blues 06 ECNL isn’t going
 
EOTL said:
Is that enough @Grace T., or do you want me to keep going?

I have told all of you 100 times that I’d much prefer a place that stuck to soccer. But you can’t do it. You and your friends bully people, you bring up politics incessantly, and then you cry like little babies when you get called out.
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Those in glass houses.....
 
A quick look at college rosters will tell you whether coaches rely on phone calls instead of scouts. You will see a mix of players from different clubs. Tells you all you need to know about "queenmakers".

EOTL is just a salesman selling his snake oil.
 
notintheface said:
I get you-- it sucks. But that email she sent is way more valuable than Surf footage.
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She’s done well trying to be creative. With no more NCAA games she’s feeling a bit lost as to what to do next. Hopefully Jan/Feb will give both the opportunity to exercise their competitive demons and by March get some footage together.
 
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