Surf Cup's Fate

happy9 said:
I think you are missing the point. Today, in AZ, if you are injured and require transport to the ER, 52% of ER beds are being used by Covid Patients.

You will not be allowed to transport with your family member inside of an ambulance. And it's likely that you will not be allowed to enter the treatment area. It's hospital dependent but you can see how much of an inconvenience getting injured right now may be. There is a significant barrier to treatment right now in ERs - it's called the rona.

Just some things to consider. The logic applied to this specific scenario, by logic alone, is different than the considerations a year ago if your child was injured on the pitch. They just are, these are the facts as we know them today.
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yes, i have considered that. I would travel with my player in a ambulance I would drive my own car so that I have a ride home.
Calisoccer11 said:
You are clearly just thinking about yourself. My point is, if God forbid anything would happen, you would be taking your kid to an AZ hospital which is already overburdened. I'm thinking about the residents of AZ and the healthcare workers there that have enough on their plate without having some selfish asshole from CA come in and play in a meaningless tournament. Do you get that or do you need further explanation?:rolleyes:
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please explain more
 
EOTL said:
That’s so great that you’re in CA, where the death rate is currently 38 out of 50, and the lowest of any state with a major city. Not so great in Phoenix these days. https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/l...capacity-and-staffing-amid-new-covid-19-surge

Let me know if your kid ever makes it onto the Pac-12 Network. Because, as @crush can attest, there is a very real chance that a baller at 11 will not be quite the same baller relative to her peers at 14, let alone 18.
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I agree but more like 13, not 11. When the adults _________________________and___________________________________ its best to be a kid and just play with your friends and not fly all over the country believing the lies. She made the right call and she is skipping all this and going pro in Greece or France in 2022. You & Canada can have college. Skip the power 5 and go pro, bro :) Get real brother EOTLespola.....lol
 
Calisoccer11 said:
Thank you for spelling it out for this dude.
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who do you think you are? you don't know anything about me or my situation. quit your virtual signaling and sit down. The AZ residents don't know who you are or give a crap about you. Go back into your bubble and stay there until you are told to come out. I'll be in AZ. Ill bet I don't even get covid or spread it? how much would you like to wager? put up or shut up
 
happy9 said:
Get well soon.

Let's be honest though, If surf happens, it will be a watered down event. Lots of ECNL and GA teams are not coming. I suppose others will follow suit. There may be enough team attrition at this point that 1 or 2 mediocre facilities will suffice.
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Absolutely agree it appears some teams decided not to go. I know a lot of teams applied and did get accepted, perhaps they will get contacted again by Surf and accepted now.

I guess we will have wait till they post the schedule to see what teams are in. I do know ECNL and GA teams are going to play. I wonder if most of the teams that changed their mind are youngers? Seems like older teams who are juniors and seniors might be more inclined to go even if the amount of coaches there may not be the usual number. Also it's good for the olders to get some video highlights for their perspective college coaches to view.
 
Lavey29 said:
Absolutely agree it appears some teams decided not to go. I know a lot of teams applied and did get accepted, perhaps they will get contacted again by Surf and accepted now.

I guess we will have wait till they post the schedule to see what teams are in. I do know ECNL and GA teams are going to play. I wonder if most of the teams that changed their mind are youngers? Seems like older teams who are juniors and seniors might be more inclined to go even if the amount of coaches there may not be the usual number. Also it's good for the olders to get some video highlights for their perspective college coaches to view.
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Quite a few GA and ECNL teams have dropped already. I think the list from this thread is : Davis, Mustang, Thorns, Slammers, Beach, Quakes. Maybe more.

Do you know of anyone other than Blues and Surf who are definitely going?
 
Lavey29 said:
Absolutely agree it appears some teams decided not to go. I know a lot of teams applied and did get accepted, perhaps they will get contacted again by Surf and accepted now.

I guess we will have wait till they post the schedule to see what teams are in. I do know ECNL and GA teams are going to play. I wonder if most of the teams that changed their mind are youngers? Seems like older teams who are juniors and seniors might be more inclined to go even if the amount of coaches there may not be the usual number. Also it's good for the olders to get some video highlights for their perspective college coaches to view.
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I will say this, after speaking with local college coaches post ECNL AZ showcase ---> The streaming video wasn't very good. Depending on the platform used (I'm no expert), they recommend cutting up highlights and sending. They did dedicate hours to watching the live stream but their feedback was that it was very hard to watch and very easy to not pay attention. There were plenty of D2/D3/NAIA coaches on the sideline for the ECNL AZ event. I would guess there are going to be less in attendance this time around.

Unfortunately Un-committed or unseen 2021s and 22s are in a bad spot. Time to crank up the email and youtube machine for coach/program outreach.

The current fate of players will not influence decisions made by the city of scottsdale and others. It will be a central tenet of Surf's argument for moving forward with the tournament.
 
Kicker4Life said:
Just have 2 VERY disappointed DD’s as they both need fresh footage for recruiting purposes.
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Some advice-- don't let them be too disappointed, college coaches this year are (mostly) not demanding 2020 game footage. A simple discussion will get you squared away. Help them keep their grades up and that will do much more for their prospects than a few minutes of working in a rusty environment.
 
happy9 said:
I will say this, after speaking with local college coaches post ECNL AZ showcase ---> The streaming video wasn't very good. Depending on the platform used (I'm no expert), they recommend cutting up highlights and sending. They did dedicate hours to watching the live stream but their feedback was that it was very hard to watch and very easy to not pay attention. There were plenty of D2/D3/NAIA coaches on the sideline for the ECNL AZ event. I would guess there are going to be less in attendance this time around.

Unfortunately Un-committed or unseen 2021s and 22s are in a bad spot. Time to crank up the email and youtube machine for coach/program outreach.

The current fate of players will not influence decisions made by the city of scottsdale and others. It will be a central tenet of Surf's argument for moving forward with the tournament.
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Under these circumstances those privately paid for showcases may be worth a look at for film. However, some may still shy away because of the location.
 
dad4 said:
Quite a few GA and ECNL teams have dropped already. I think the list from this thread is : Davis, Mustang, Thorns, Slammers, Beach, Quakes. Maybe more.

Do you know of anyone other than Blues and Surf who are definitely going?
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What about legends, strikers, arsenal, rebels etc.....
 
happy9 said:
I will say this, after speaking with local college coaches post ECNL AZ showcase ---> The streaming video wasn't very good. Depending on the platform used (I'm no expert), they recommend cutting up highlights and sending. They did dedicate hours to watching the live stream but their feedback was that it was very hard to watch and very easy to not pay attention. There were plenty of D2/D3/NAIA coaches on the sideline for the ECNL AZ event. I would guess there are going to be less in attendance this time around.

Unfortunately Un-committed or unseen 2021s and 22s are in a bad spot. Time to crank up the email and youtube machine for coach/program outreach.

The current fate of players will not influence decisions made by the city of scottsdale and others. It will be a central tenet of Surf's argument for moving forward with the tournament.
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The game footage we get is clear 4k not live stream. Very good for creating highlight video clips. My kid will email her college preferences coach with game schedule and invite them to watch but if they cant do that she will send them highlight clip.
 
LASTMAN14 said:
Under these circumstances those privately paid for showcases may be worth a look at for film. However, some may still shy away because of the location.
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No doubt. It's also what Surf is banking on in order maintain interest. It's an unfortunate situation for all, especially if CA players don't have a clear pathway to commence play. They will be the collateral damage in all of this. There is good enough reason to NOT hold Surf. It won't soothe the feelings of players who are determined to play at the next level and were hoping to leverage a Surf event to help them get there. If you have an ECNL player, at least you have film from the fall season and from the showcase. If you have a GA player, you also have film from this past season. Both leagues are doing a decent job elevating and endorsing video on their players behalf.
 
notintheface said:
Some advice-- don't let them be too disappointed, college coaches this year are (mostly) not demanding 2020 game footage. A simple discussion will get you squared away. Help them keep their grades up and that will do much more for their prospects than a few minutes of working in a rusty environment.
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Both have solid grades are doing volunteer work when and where possible and continue to train multiple times a week. My oldest was watching NCAA games of the schools she’s been interested in and emailing the Coaches about what she saw in each game.

Tough words for her to swallow as she watched friends play in the Showcase in November and the one in SC recently. “Lots of other kids Are getting footage...blah blah”. This to will pass, just not easy navigating with 2 teenage DD’s.
 
happy9 said:
I will say this, after speaking with local college coaches post ECNL AZ showcase ---> The streaming video wasn't very good. Depending on the platform used (I'm no expert), they recommend cutting up highlights and sending. They did dedicate hours to watching the live stream but their feedback was that it was very hard to watch and very easy to not pay attention. There were plenty of D2/D3/NAIA coaches on the sideline for the ECNL AZ event. I would guess there are going to be less in attendance this time around.

Unfortunately Un-committed or unseen 2021s and 22s are in a bad spot. Time to crank up the email and youtube machine for coach/program outreach.

The current fate of players will not influence decisions made by the city of scottsdale and others. It will be a central tenet of Surf's argument for moving forward with the tournament.
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This all does suck for many 2021s and 22s. For many years I have recommended the benefits of playing for one of those few coaches (I think I actually coined the term “queenmaker”) who have real connections and whose recommendation to a college coach is as good as gold.

Even for 2023s and later, there is a significant risk that your kid will not be “found” given the highly uncertain status of the youth soccer landscape right now. If you want to take your chances as one of the thousands sending unsolicited emails with cute videos, and playing for a small club with a coach who goes to voicemail when he calls Radcliffe, Cromwell or anyone, go for it. But you know for sure that with the likes of Baker in the south and Deza in the north, a single phone call is all it takes. That’s it. Your kid gets to play anywhere they want if they’re good enough.
 
notintheface said:
Come on man, it would take a Surf Cup every single day for ten years to even get to 1% of Arizona's net GDP. Let's not delude ourselves with the real economic impact of one tournament.
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Lol! You wanna compare state GDP to one soccer tournament? Okay lets annualize their economic impact. It's actually 2%.....a year.
 
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