Surf Cup's Fate

EOTL said:
Yes, science has proven that old people in their rest homes cause it to go from one geographical location to the next. It can’t possibly be spread by 60,000 people traveling to the same place for a kiddie soccer tournament and then back again. Of course, they’re really all just dying of heartburn anyway, or being decapitated by their parents if the heartburn doesn’t get ‘em, right @crush?
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Dad who killed his kids ((RIP little Angels)) was a personal trainer and felt helpless after this last shut down. These shut downs do a number on you when you have no money or a job and kids need things, like food. Mental illness is real EOTL, trust me. He and so many others are SOL and it's now hitting all of us. I said this before and I will say it again. Everyone, including dad 4 the math teacher, EOTL, Espola and Long Game Man and even Outlaw, needs to lose everything and I mean everything. Job, savings, retirement and everything else that comes with it. That's the big lie EOTL, plus all the Hypocrites that say one thing and do another. You know what I mean, right?

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This lady saved everything up to start a business, but dad 4 and his pals say she must be closed down, lose all her savings and all the time she put into building her business so you and him can feel safer. We all know by now what this is really about.

I was in Whittier with my Queen Bee on Saturday. I took her on a "Memory Lane Date" to Central Park. I was leading a small bible study group back in 1996 and she had just joined our church and wanted to grow more so she joined my singles group ((talk about being at the right place at the right time)). It was love at first sight and we got married 18 months later and we are more madly and deeply in love today then ever, and I mean that. We had the best __________________ ever and it's only getting better. We eight at JCs. Killer tacos bro btw. He shut down and then opened up and then is now about to shut down again and is trying to hold on for dear life. Community in old town is trying to help but it's looking bleak.
 
3leches said:
RSL tournament cancelled;
The City of Phoenix has made the decision to close all parks and cancel all events for the foreseeable future and I am sorry to inform you that we are no longer able to accept out-of-states teams. Surf Cup will be cancelled
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RSL did not cancel their December tournament. They closed it to out of state teams. The tournament will still be happening this weekend with AZ only teams.
 
EOTL said:
So fun watching the youth soccer nuts wallow in self-pity. The greatest generation saves the world, and y’all get whiny that Sally can’t play Surf Cup. It’s been a real tough month for people with heartburn, eh?
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Self pity? Must be talking about someone else. I'm happy with setting up free scrimmages locally. Plenty of quality teams in socal, no need to drive and pay for hotels. Plenty of secret locations where the authorities let us play. Just can't be a scared snowflake like you. Lol
 
Lavey29 said:
Happy you live in AZ? I was there in Scottsdale 2 months ago and the resteraunts were packed inside. I wore my mask inside one to get my pizza to go and everyone looked at me like I had the plague. There really is no voluntary mask use at all that I saw around the Scottsdale area we were at. Restaurants and bars appeared to be business as usual. So if there is a rise in china virus cases it is most likely due to local residents and the chances of some parents sitting spread out on the sidelines with their masks on causing a big spike just ain't gonna happen I'm no scientist and everything put out from the scientific community does not indicate youth sports and the parents watching are one of the primary factors in rising China virus numbers.
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Yep, in the north valley/scottsdale area. Mask compliance is generally good. Eating establishments are touch and go, depending on the neighborhood. I get the sense if you eat more local, with less external traffic, masks aren't as diligently enforced. People feel more comfortable sitting at a bar in north scottsdale, with less out of zip code traffic than lets say central scottsdale, which sees more traffic from neighboring zip codes.

The virus is going to virus (may be the most overused statement of 2020).

Many zip codes in the north valley have less cases - are less transient. We also have a high snowbird population, they've been here since SEP. Maybe just coincidence but their arrival was synched with our increase in case load. Likely a seasonal thing but I'm no infectious disease expert. Our hospital capacity this time of the year typically runs 90% or slightly higher due to snowbirds.

Club sports in full swing over the weekend. I expect some sort of restrictions to be put in place in some cities but I doubt those will include any restrictions placed on sports played outside. Except of course cities like phoenix and tempe.

It will be interesting to see how Surf pivots and manages the CA restrictions. Will CA clubs still come? Does it make sense for a club to travel to AZ under the shadow of these restrictions? Even more important (to me anyway, from an athletic perspective), does it make sense players to travel to CA to play 3 games after not having practiced for 3 weeks. If you are the parent of an older with college aspirations, does it make sense to risk injury. CA clubs aren't exactly in top game shape to begin with. Goes without saying, lack of game fitness can lead to injury.

Remove the emotion of the politics of the virus and think about whether 3 forced games is worth an injury. AZ clubs have been practicing and playing since late summer. We didn't miss that many weeks of training and are now basically in game shape. I haven't seen a legit team list, but how many non CA teams are registered for Surf? Does this turn into a CO, TX, AZ surf? And is the juice worth the squeeze for Surf.
 
happy9 said:
Yep, in the north valley/scottsdale area. Mask compliance is generally good. Eating establishments are touch and go, depending on the neighborhood. I get the sense if you eat more local, with less external traffic, masks aren't as diligently enforced. People feel more comfortable sitting at a bar in north scottsdale, with less out of zip code traffic than lets say central scottsdale, which sees more traffic from neighboring zip codes.

The virus is going to virus (may be the most overused statement of 2020).

Many zip codes in the north valley have less cases - are less transient. We also have a high snowbird population, they've been here since SEP. Maybe just coincidence but their arrival was synched with our increase in case load. Likely a seasonal thing but I'm no infectious disease expert. Our hospital capacity this time of the year typically runs 90% or slightly higher due to snowbirds.

Club sports in full swing over the weekend. I expect some sort of restrictions to be put in place in some cities but I doubt those will include any restrictions placed on sports played outside. Except of course cities like phoenix and tempe.

It will be interesting to see how Surf pivots and manages the CA restrictions. Will CA clubs still come? Does it make sense for a club to travel to AZ under the shadow of these restrictions? Even more important (to me anyway, from an athletic perspective), does it make sense players to travel to CA to play 3 games after not having practiced for 3 weeks. If you are the parent of an older with college aspirations, does it make sense to risk injury. CA clubs aren't exactly in top game shape to begin with. Goes without saying, lack of game fitness can lead to injury.

Remove the emotion of the politics of the virus and think about whether 3 forced games is worth an injury. AZ clubs have been practicing and playing since late summer. We didn't miss that many weeks of training and are now basically in game shape. I haven't seen a legit team list, but how many non CA teams are registered for Surf? Does this turn into a CO, TX, AZ surf? And is the juice worth the squeeze for Surf.
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What I have noticed is CA teams is not playing/training enough and AZ teams playing/training too much. In both cases risk of injury is very high.
 
Lavey29 said:
Um, excuse my ignorance Mr. Ewok, but what exactly was racist there? Before you answer consider that I may be an African American or perhaps a simple humble honky.
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there is nothing racist about the comment. That is that fools go to on everyone. I wish the consequences were as severe for those throwing that around falsely as they are for the true racist that pop up around.
 
happy9 said:
Yep, in the north valley/scottsdale area. Mask compliance is generally good. Eating establishments are touch and go, depending on the neighborhood. I get the sense if you eat more local, with less external traffic, masks aren't as diligently enforced. People feel more comfortable sitting at a bar in north scottsdale, with less out of zip code traffic than lets say central scottsdale, which sees more traffic from neighboring zip codes.

The virus is going to virus (may be the most overused statement of 2020).

Many zip codes in the north valley have less cases - are less transient. We also have a high snowbird population, they've been here since SEP. Maybe just coincidence but their arrival was synched with our increase in case load. Likely a seasonal thing but I'm no infectious disease expert. Our hospital capacity this time of the year typically runs 90% or slightly higher due to snowbirds.

Club sports in full swing over the weekend. I expect some sort of restrictions to be put in place in some cities but I doubt those will include any restrictions placed on sports played outside. Except of course cities like phoenix and tempe.

It will be interesting to see how Surf pivots and manages the CA restrictions. Will CA clubs still come? Does it make sense for a club to travel to AZ under the shadow of these restrictions? Even more important (to me anyway, from an athletic perspective), does it make sense players to travel to CA to play 3 games after not having practiced for 3 weeks. If you are the parent of an older with college aspirations, does it make sense to risk injury. CA clubs aren't exactly in top game shape to begin with. Goes without saying, lack of game fitness can lead to injury.

Remove the emotion of the politics of the virus and think about whether 3 forced games is worth an injury. AZ clubs have been practicing and playing since late summer. We didn't miss that many weeks of training and are now basically in game shape. I haven't seen a legit team list, but how many non CA teams are registered for Surf? Does this turn into a CO, TX, AZ surf? And is the juice worth the squeeze for Surf.
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I agree with the training part for sure. My kid is out if condition for this time of year. Only 4 scrimmage games and 4 tournament games all season. 2 injuries already. Hamstring and strained back. Even the coach commented that the team was out of game condition compared to other teams from different states that have been practicing and playing regularly.
 
Just received this email:

We are excited to announce that Surf Cup 2020 - Arizona will go on as planned! All aspects of the event, including the filming and free access for college coaches of all recruiting age games, will continue and the dates and general location won't change.

Although we respect the current COVID situation in our country, we are confident in the safety of outdoor youth sports and our COVID protocols and processes. More importantly, our athletes, families and college coaches have reached out to us in droves imploring us to move forward with the event. The foundation of our rationale is rooted in three core ideas:

• All qualitative and quantitative data support the idea that COVID is not being transmitted on the field of play during outdoor youth sports activities. We have all been "living in a lab" the past 9 months and we have all seen firsthand that COVID cases are not being passed among kids during practices, scrimmages or games. We know that youth sports activities are happening in 45 states across the country with no major COVID breakouts amongst youth athletes. We know that large scale tournaments in soccer, lacrosse, football and baseball are occurring every weekend across the US with no significant COVID cases. We know that 3 major college conferences successfully completed full seasons, playing hundreds of games, with very little COVID interruption. We've also seen the data from the Surf White Paper Study, the University of Wisconsin study and the Dutch Football study that shows that 98% of soccer games don't have enough prolonged contact to transmit COVID.

• Players in CA, NV, WA, OR and NM are not allowed to participate in youth sports. Meanwhile, in the other 45 states across the US those players haven't been asked to stop enjoying the game and competing in the sport they love. Athletes across the country are not being asked to miss their high school sports seasons - only our athletes are. College bound players across the country are playing in showcase events and being offered scholarships while only our players are missing out on that opportunity. The arbitrary nature of this decision making is having a dis-proportionate impact on our players and we feel a responsibility to give them the chance they deserve.

• We are confident in our ability to host a safe environment for youth soccer. However, our event allows each club, each team, each family and each athlete to make their own decisions about playing. We will respect every decision and will support those that play and those that choose not to.

To that point, we are offering accepted teams one final opportunity to withdraw from the event and receive a full refund (minus the credit card processing fee).

When your team originally applied for Surf Cup AZ the drop date to receive a refund was November 15th. However, due to the state-by-state changes and the venue changes for our event, we are extending that refund deadline to Wednesday, December 9th at 9pm PST. After this date, refunds will only be issued if AZ cancels the event or due to mandatory out of state travel restrictions from your state. Refunds will not be issued for recommended stay home policies after the 12/9 deadline. Refunds will be minus the credit card processing fee and will be issued via check.

Should you decide to withdraw from the event – please reply to this email with the following information -
Club/team name/gender/birth year
The name of the person whom the refund check should be made payable to
The address that the refund check should be mailed to as we are unable to process refunds back to the credit card used for payment.

Please reply to this email, ONLY if you wish to withdraw from the event, NO LATER THAN Wednesday, December 9th at 9pm PST as we do need to start working on the schedule and we need to know exactly what the numbers are that we are working with for scheduling.

If you do not reply you will be considered “accepted” for the event and will be scheduled for participation in the event. There is no need to reply to the email if you wish to remain in the event.

We will be providing schedules and field information as we get closer to the event dates. Teams will not need to change dates or hotels. Our dates will remain the same and all venues will be in the general area as originally planned. We will also be communicating our Safety Policies and Procedures prior to the event and we will ask all athletes, coaches and parents to be accountable for keeping our kids safe. If we all respect the protocols, then our children can enjoy the game they love and stay healthy.

See you in Arizona!
 
I love the fighting spirit and "the show must go on" mindset. I want my goat to play in this tournament now. The fire is in my belly. The fact that it will take a miracle and some hard core soccer players and their parents to make the trip, will make this a must play tournament. All eyes will be on AZ Jan 1-4th. I'm stoked and now ready to make a new wager with @Eagle33. Quadruple or nothing bro? Basically if I lose again, I will buy you a keg of the beer of your choice or a barrel of Jack if you like that better and have it delivered for free. If the Cup is played on those dates, my debt is free and clear? I will talk to my dd and see if I can;t find a way to "persuade" her to put on her cleats. Surf Cup was and is bigger then ecnl showcase, MOO, so they might have more LS viewership then this last showcase.
 
Eagle33 said:
What I have noticed is CA teams is not playing/training enough and AZ teams playing/training too much. In both cases risk of injury is very high.
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Why would you think AZ teams are playing/training too much? Not much change between last summer and this summer in terms of workload. If anything, a little less workload early on with the distanced training.
 
happy9 said:
Why would you think AZ teams are playing/training too much? Not much change between last summer and this summer in terms of workload. If anything, a little less workload early on with the distanced training.
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I heard from the rumor mill that AZ per player injuries is gnarly and something no one has ever seen before. It was best for Socal girls to hit the pause button. These girls have been balling non stop since 2011. Trust me, I know these dads and moms and were ALL ultra competitive over hear in socal. The fact is, I was way more competitive then all of them and when I saw goal post after goal post moved and all the lairs talking, well, I got pissed off. Today, I'm at peace with myself for the first time ever. I mean that. Time to love each other if you want to get along in the future. I'm not hearing of many injuries in socal and that says a lot.
 
crush said:
I love the fighting spirit and "the show must go on" mindset. I want my goat to play in this tournament now. The fire is in my belly. The fact that it will take a miracle and some hard core soccer players and their parents to make the trip, will make this a must play tournament. All eyes will be on AZ Jan 1-4th. I'm stoked and now ready to make a new wager with @Eagle33. Quadruple or nothing bro? Basically if I lose again, I will buy you a keg of the beer of your choice or a barrel of Jack if you like that better and have it delivered for free. If the Cup is played on those dates, my debt is free and clear? I will talk to my dd and see if I can;t find a way to "persuade" her to put on her cleats. Surf Cup was and is bigger then ecnl showcase, MOO, so they might have more LS viewership then this last showcase.
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Fighting spirit to not lose 2 million dollars in their bank account :)
 
crush said:
I heard from the rumor mill that AZ per player injuries is gnarly and something no one has ever seen before. It was best for Socal girls to hit the pause button. These girls have been balling non stop since 2011. Trust me, I know these dads and moms and were ALL ultra competitive over hear in socal. The fact is, I was way more competitive then all of them and when I saw goal post after goal post moved and all the lairs talking, well, I got pissed off. Today, I'm at peace with myself for the first time ever. I mean that. Time to love each other if you want to get along in the future. I'm not hearing of many injuries in socal and that says a lot.
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link? JK. I haven't seen/heard anything out of the ordinary for injuries.
 
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