Surf Cup - Get Your Refund Now

[crush]

Covid is a hoax, eh? Every single doctor or nurse who works in a hospital ICU virtually anywhere in the country will tell you f**k you liar.

Someone has real problems right about now and it's not me for once in my life. I was made for this time and I'm ready. I really was born for this very time we all face together. Stay calm and stay safe. Let the pros handles things. USA USA USA!!!!!!

 

[dad4]

I don't disagree with that but most ICUs are nearly full this time every year. Have you talked to, or know of, a physician or nurse that would dispute that? I realize acknowledging that doesn't solve the capacity problem but I'm not aware of playing outdoor soccer resulting in bursting hospitals at the seams. My point to EOTL was that the increased cases are attributed to other behavior. Even this basketball tournament that happened near Sacramento, resulting in an "outbreak of 94 positive cases", with all the articles I've read because it happened in my backyard, not 1 has mentioned a death or hospital stay for a single participant. Doesn't mean it didn't happen but I haven't read of one. Not one. And this place was hosting indoor basketball from Day 1. And are you surprised to see "more" cases when there's "more" testing than ever? C'mon.

The problem with Surf is all the non soccer stuff. Hotels, restaurants, bars, carpools, etc.

If some dads from Surf and Del Mar organize a Saturday scrimmage, I'd worry less about the soccer than the beers after.

 

[Scott m Shurson]

The problem with Surf is all the non soccer stuff. Hotels, restaurants, bars, carpools, etc.

If some dads from Surf and Del Mar organize a Saturday scrimmage, I'd worry less about the soccer than the beers after.

Totally understand that. People that will do it in Phoenix are doing it now already, though. They won't adjust their behavior, as I would personally, but that's kind of my point. I'm inclined to believe all of our kids, except for EOTL that doesn't have kids playing soccer, have already had it or been exposed to it by "social distancing" at their 3-days per week "non contact" practices for 6 months. It's ridiculous.

 

[MacDre]

Do you consider drug dealers and hookers "essential" workers?

Maybe, if you’re married. Do you consider Surf Cup essential?

 

[crush]

Maybe, if you’re married. Do you consider Surf Cup essential?

I think after the dust settles Dre, we will all look back and say, "you know what, were all important and no one is more essential then the other."

 

[Scott m Shurson]

Maybe, if you’re married. Do you consider Surf Cup essential?

I consider outdoor sports for kids "essential", or at the very least, as "essential" as only allowing 20% of patrons in a department store, private schools being allowed to stay open because they're private, "outdoor dining" inside a car cover and portable heater, 1/2 day school on a hybrid schedule, etc.

At least until there's legitimate statistics to prove playing soccer outside puts people in the hospital. I haven't seen that yet. Have you? And are we going to pretend scanning someone's forehead temperature somehow reduces risk? I mean, who the fuck are we kidding?

 

[dad4]

I consider outdoor sports for kids "essential", or at the very least, as "essential" as only allowing 20% of patrons in a department store, private schools being allowed to stay open because they're private, "outdoor dining" inside a car cover and portable heater, 1/2 day school on a hybrid schedule, etc.

At least until there's legitimate statistics to prove playing soccer outside puts people in the hospital. I haven't seen that yet. Have you? And are we going to pretend scanning someone's forehead temperature somehow reduces risk? I mean, who the fuck are we kidding?

If I remember right, the forehead temperature thing catches something like 30-40% of cases. Costs next to nothing, is a truly minor inconvenience, and helps a bit. Perfectly reasonable thing to do before practices and scrimmages.

 

[crush]

I consider outdoor sports for kids "essential", or at the very least, as "essential" as only allowing 20% of patrons in a department store, private schools being allowed to stay open because they're private, "outdoor dining" inside a car cover and portable heater, 1/2 day school on a hybrid schedule, etc.

At least until there's legitimate statistics to prove playing soccer outside puts people in the hospital. I haven't seen that yet. Have you? And are we going to pretend scanning someone's forehead temperature somehow reduces risk? I mean, who the fuck are we kidding?

Let it all out bro. I'm healing myself coming on here and talking up with my pals, who seem to be the same person. Therapeutic is an understatement.

 

[Scott m Shurson]

If I remember right, the forehead temperature thing catches something like 30-40% of cases. Costs next to nothing, is a truly minor inconvenience, and helps a bit. Perfectly reasonable thing to do before practices and scrimmages.

Agreed... but it presents a false sense of security. 60-70% on a test means you aren't getting into grad school.

 

[Jose has returned]

Nobody is being fooled by "Best of the Best". Not in 2020. Surf is a soccer tournament that, if it ever really was best of the best, is a reward for kids that work their asses off 3-4 days per week. Getting to play in some of the best weather on the planet. Having smoothies by the pool with teammates. Going to Sea World. Checking out some terrific, local colleges between matches. For most it's just about the experience & reward for hard work and sacrifice we all know comp players make.

You can be pissed that someone is still trying to host a soccer tournament because of Covid, but blaming them for wanting to make money is ridiculous. They aren't being deceitful and they aren't being greedy. Those of you wanting everyone to shut everything down are never going to get 100% compliance, no matter what you do, so quit whining.

Surf provides a product people want or it wouldn't exist. Stop crying about them pushing the dates back. They're chasing a moving target like Fauci and The Laundry King of France.

those wanting to shut everything down are still getting a check somewhere. they aren't worried where their rent payment is coming from. Its not about you selfish people. give up your mortgage payment then talk

 

[crush]

If I remember right, the forehead temperature thing catches something like 30-40% of cases. Costs next to nothing, is a truly minor inconvenience, and helps a bit. Perfectly reasonable thing to do before practices and scrimmages.

So my wife does this when we go into place that tries to scan her brain.

Hostess: Hi mam, please place your forehead out forward please

Wife: No, I wont let you scan my brain with your machine. Is there another way?

Hostess: Yes, stay in your car and one of my boys will roller skate your grub out to you or let me scan your wrist

Wife: Ok, please scan wrist

 

[crush]

those wanting to shut everything down are still getting a check somewhere. they aren't worried where their rent payment is coming from. Its not about you selfish people. give up your mortgage payment then talk

That's whats next on the docket. No more check for all and see how it feels. So many men think they own us. Just wait Jose, sh*t is about to really hit the fan.

 

[Scott m Shurson]

So my wife does this when we go into place that tries to scan her brain.

Hostess: Hi mam, please place your forehead out forward please

Wife: No, I wont let you scan my brain with your machine. Is there another way?

Hostess: Yes, stay in your car and one of my boys will roller skate your grub out to you or let me scan your wrist

Wife: Ok, please scan wrist

Next time suggest a rectal thermometer. The reaction will be well worth ending up at Macaroni Grill down the street.

 

[MacDre]

I consider outdoor sports for kids "essential", or at the very least, as "essential" as only allowing 20% of patrons in a department store, private schools being allowed to stay open because they're private, "outdoor dining" inside a car cover and portable heater, 1/2 day school on a hybrid schedule, etc.

At least until there's legitimate statistics to prove playing soccer outside puts people in the hospital. I haven't seen that yet. Have you? And are we going to pretend scanning someone's forehead temperature somehow reduces risk? I mean, who the fuck are we kidding?

I consider outdoor sports essential for kids too. In the past 10 months my kid has learned how to skateboard. She rides “goofy” so she works her left (weak) leg and I think that will eventually help with finishing with her non-dominant leg. Her balance and core strength has improved also; she probably does 100 ollies per day. Skateboarding has also taught her how to fall and hopefully this skill will help avoid or minimize injury in the future.

We live by Mountain Bike trails so we have been hitting the trails too.

I’m telling you this because my kid wants to go pro or experimental as others have called it. In order to play soccer in college or pros these kids need to become comfortable with cross training. I think the past 10 months have been a great opportunity for players to focus on improving skill/technique and introducing more variety into their fitness routine.

I don’t have any control over what politicians do, so I am focusing my energy and attention to areas that I can control.

 

[watfly]

I've never had an issue with Surf--15+ years of kids soccer in LA/OC and plenty of SurfCups--until several weeks ago when they made a business decision to prioritize profits over the health and safety of families and children, despite resounding medical advice to the contrary and now in defiance of state and local mandates--then promoting it under the guise of college scouting and kids needing to play. It's really a shame because this will tarnish their reputation for a long time...the club not willing to join the other CA clubs/teams/players/families in the worthy common goal of following state orders to suppress a health crisis. Nobody likes the mandates, but responsible companies do not willingly defy them, and do not encourage families and children to do the same. They are incapable (as are some posters on this thread) of looking at things without a soccer lens. That is disappointing and sad. At this point, if they cared about ethics and the welfare of California families, Surf would not allow ANY California teams to play in AZ, including their own. That's not jealousy. That's simply calling for doing the right thing.

I don't disagree that Surf would be well advised to cancel the tournament from an optics standpoint, I've been on record saying that for weeks. Unfortunately they've painted themselves into a corner with the remaining teams. They had a perfect opportunity a week and a half ago to cancel but instead they doubled down. However, comparing them to "big tobacco" or a "criminal enterprise", is not remotely factually comparable, and is a level of animosity that I can't comprehend based on the simple decision to legally and safely (based on their protocols and the actually history of recent tourneys) host a tournament. I guess calling them Nazi's is too ubiquitous. It seems there is something else underlying this venom. I know people that resent Surf's success...which I find odd that anyone resents somebody else's success.

Teams and clubs have made their own decisions to go. They should go, have a good time, be careful and take responsibility for their actions. Surf is not forcing anyone to go. Does Surf have influence? Sure, they're the 880lb gorilla that could sell ice to Eskimos, but Surf has given teams every opportunity to back out and receive a 97% refund. It seems you may be just looking for a scapegoat. I guess I'm just tired of this nanny culture where people hyperbolically criticize others for their educated choices when those choices have zero impact on them. I realize this behavior is likely born out of their own fears, but that still doesn't justify it. As my mom used to say "Mind your own beeswax".

 

[EOTL]

Totally understand that. People that will do it in Phoenix are doing it now already, though. They won't adjust their behavior, as I would personally, but that's kind of my point. I'm inclined to believe all of our kids, except for EOTL that doesn't have kids playing soccer, have already had it or been exposed to it by "social distancing" at their 3-days per week "non contact" practices for 6 months. It's ridiculous.

People will and do adjust their behavior when it becomes so hard for them to engage in idiotic behavior that they don’t. CA’s rules have made it so impractical to attend Surf that most have abandoned ship. And that limits spread. Most have stopped going places because it just isn’t worth it. That is the point. Not expecting the impossible of 100% of people staying home 100% of the time. The more CA can limit spread, the more likely it will continue to have the lowest death rate of any state with even remotely similar population density.

The fact that idiot cactus lovers are going to spread covid at bars regardless of the rules is all the more reason to make it harder on Californians to go get covid from them.

Any updates odds for the big Blues v. Yuma AYSO matchup?

 

[Scott m Shurson]

People will and do adjust their behavior when it becomes so hard for them to engage in idiotic behavior that they don’t. CA’s rules have made it so impractical to attend Surf that most have abandoned ship. And that limits spread. Most have stopped going places because it just isn’t worth it. That is the point. Not expecting the impossible of 100% of people staying home 100% of the time. The more CA can limit spread, the more likely it will continue to have the lowest death rate of any state with even remotely similar population density.

The fact that idiot cactus lovers are going to spread covid at bars regardless of the rules is all the more reason to make it harder on Californians to go get covid from them.

Any updates odds for the big Blues v. Yuma AYSO matchup?

Why would you care about odds? Are you a gambler or just love talking about kid's soccer when you don't have kids playing soccer?

 

[Jose has returned]

People will and do adjust their behavior when it becomes so hard for them to engage in idiotic behavior that they don’t. CA’s rules have made it so impractical to attend Surf that most have abandoned ship. And that limits spread. Most have stopped going places because it just isn’t worth it. That is the point. Not expecting the impossible of 100% of people staying home 100% of the time. The more CA can limit spread, the more likely it will continue to have the lowest death rate of any state with even remotely similar population density.

The fact that idiot cactus lovers are going to spread covid at bars regardless of the rules is all the more reason to make it harder on Californians to go get covid from them.

Any updates odds for the big Blues v. Yuma AYSO matchup?

Blues v Yuma 0%

 

[Jose has returned]

Why would you care about odds? Are you a gambler or just love talking about kid's soccer when you don't have kids playing soccer?

a Pedo type behavior

 

[Jose has returned]

People will and do adjust their behavior when it becomes so hard for them to engage in idiotic behavior that they don’t. CA’s rules have made it so impractical to attend Surf that most have abandoned ship. And that limits spread. Most have stopped going places because it just isn’t worth it. That is the point. Not expecting the impossible of 100% of people staying home 100% of the time. The more CA can limit spread, the more likely it will continue to have the lowest death rate of any state with even remotely similar population density.

The fact that idiot cactus lovers are going to spread covid at bars regardless of the rules is all the more reason to make it harder on Californians to go get covid from them.

Any updates odds for the big Blues v. Yuma AYSO matchup?

any scientific updates on soccer spreading the virus? asking for a friend