Surf Cup - Get Your Refund Now

New California Youth Sport guidance is giving those of you who made a bad choice up until now a second (actually third) bite at the apple to get your $$ back. It's only going to get worse by 12/27 and New Year's Day in AZ. But you won't hear that from Surf--they are Big Tobacco. We elder parents with multiple kids through the system keep trying to provide good advice (as does the medical community; f the politicians btw). Seriously though, just pull the ripcord on this one, get your money back and look for another tourney to play in March/April. Or, save the money and buy a bigger TV from Best Buy to watch the second half of EPL.
We are going. Will take necessary precautions… will not be eating in restaurants or malls etc, will be going straight to the field to play games and then staying at hotel with food brought in.
 
I asked my dd an honest Q last night. Only truth can be spoken I told her. No this or that or eyes shifting away. I asked, "if all the top teams from CA, WA, OR, TX, NV, AZ, CO, WY, ID, NM and the true "best of the best" were balling , would you ball?" She said 100% she would have Bday party the week after. However, with all the top teams from Nocal and Socal skipping ((minus the Blues)), it's not worth it. I want Surf Cup to happen with the top top best best teams. That's us in a nut shell. That's why I got all mad when the first year of the GDA had no playoffs for the 04s and they were going to forbid HS Soccer for public school kids and split socal into two competing leagues.
My son who is a U 17 said the opposite… He’s itching to play so badly he doesn’t care About the competition… He just wants to have fun playing. That’s what having to practice 6 feet apart for nine months does to you.
 
Which younger club is that
I swore not to share the team. Dad, EOTL and his twin bro, The Long Game, are here to keep an eye on us, call us names and rebuke us before our brethren on the forum. Some serious folks have sold out their soul for power & control and with the _ _ _, and my guys are telling me to just stay safe and let the real pros handle things.
 
My son who is a U 17 said the opposite… He’s itching to play so badly he doesn’t care About the competition… He just wants to have fun playing. That’s what having to practice 6 feet apart for nine months does to you.
I'm the one itching to go and watch because time is almost over for this dad and her dd having fun with youth soccer. It hasn;t been all bad, just the last two or three years the adult men screwed it all up for us. Greed, Power, Selfishness and Control, what else is new with the male. No need to bring up the past. This 6 feet soccer was a big joke. Now we all know who cares about the kids and that information is very powerful for the future. Good look to your boy and I hope you guys have fun. We did the trip three times in two months and it was cool.
 
I've never had an issue with Surf--15+ years of kids soccer in LA/OC and plenty of SurfCups--until several weeks ago when they made a business decision to prioritize profits over the health and safety of families and children, despite resounding medical advice to the contrary and now in defiance of state and local mandates--then promoting it under the guise of college scouting and kids needing to play. It's really a shame because this will tarnish their reputation for a long time...the club not willing to join the other CA clubs/teams/players/families in the worthy common goal of following state orders to suppress a health crisis. Nobody likes the mandates, but responsible companies do not willingly defy them, and do not encourage families and children to do the same. They are incapable (as are some posters on this thread) of looking at things without a soccer lens. That is disappointing and sad. At this point, if they cared about ethics and the welfare of California families, Surf would not allow ANY California teams to play in AZ, including their own. That's not jealousy. That's simply calling for doing the right thing.
honesty question --Has your team scrimmaged another team or club in the past 6 months? Or have you just stuck to the guidelines of 6' square training and no contact--please answer this truthfully
 
honesty question --Has your team scrimmaged another team or club in the past 6 months? Or have you just stuck to the guidelines of 6' square training and no contact--please answer this truthfully
I so know the answer but I wont share it. Let's see if Canada comes clean and tells the truth. It's good to see you posting on here so much now. Welcome back :)
 
Ill be honesty crush you push me away from this site sometime with your mindless banter and talking about the same shit about YOUR mistakes but this morning I warm edup to you , it was your last post that makes sense about time running out so I feel ya.

Just make sure she try's her hardest to get into a good school it will happen if she truly is a goat.

if not

don't worry it will not be the end of the world.

here's some advice, take the back seat and let your kiddo live her life, if soccer is her pathway it will happen , if its not ,

who cares

its her life not yours.

You should also take a break from the forums too, your posting way too much
 
honesty question --Has your team scrimmaged another team or club in the past 6 months? Or have you just stuck to the guidelines of 6' square training and no contact--please answer this truthfully
Our team scrimmaged other teams from our club - no outside clubs. Went to AZ once for a tournament in October.
 
here's some advice, take the back seat and let your kiddo live her life, if soccer is her pathway it will happen , if its not ,

who cares

its her life not yours.

You should also take a break from the forums too, your posting way too much
I have always liked you, I swear. I was a helicopter parent or some say, Hawk dad to my baby girl. Flying above to keep her away from assholes. I swooped in when she was 12 and 13. That was the only time, I swear. If you saw the sh*t I saw, you would too. I just came on here way too much last year and went off. Please forgive me 46. I got all that advice two years ago about my kids btw and put into practice. I let my daughter go last year and she is an Eagle flying around solo now. It's hard because I am a protector by nature and care so much for her. I will say I now tell her to be nice to the boys and don;t hurt them too much. Lot;s of boys have wounds and can;t handle her. I play around on here for the most part and I have nowhere to go. I can;t leave my house at all so I will stay and share. I will take a break like I did a few weeks ago. My inbox blows up because people really like what I have to share and think I quit. "Crush, where are you?" I feel called to be a voice. I will take your advice and consider my posting to much. Peace 46....
 
honesty question --Has your team scrimmaged another team or club in the past 6 months? Or have you just stuck to the guidelines of 6' square training and no contact--please answer this truthfully
Honest answer - no scrimmages. my kids' teams (I don't play any more) went to AZ and NV in the Fall for games before this pandemic got out of hand, especially in AZ.

I will always look at the Surf brand differently now. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
 
Honest answer - no scrimmages. my kids' teams (I don't play any more) went to AZ and NV in the Fall for games before this pandemic got out of hand, especially in AZ.

I will always look at the Surf brand differently now. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
True dat teacher. Thanks for honesty and being open with the forum. We all need to learn to walk in the light and not hide are true feelings from each other. I will confess my dd has done one USL. I was lying ((joking really but some will say it;s lie and I can't lie)) when I said she was playing with adult men in the Mexican League. Anyone who knows my dd knows that was BS. The truth is she works out with some the guys and some another girls who can hang. All of them are trying to get into college through hard work, good grades and staying ready when soccer is aloud. I follow all the rules too Canada, except the one USL. I feel bad and want to say at least you practice what you preach. Not too many people do that so I will always give you some props. I know you ignore and take all my satire as gospel truth and that's ok. I love you man :)
 
My son who is a U 17 said the opposite… He’s itching to play so badly he doesn’t care About the competition… He just wants to have fun playing. That’s what having to practice 6 feet apart for nine months does to you.
Well said. So much backlash on this forum about this no longer being "best of the best" tournament. I guess all of their kids always played in the best of the best flight. Luckily we never had to worry about that as my kid's team was always placed in one of the other flights.

For any tournament, the only things I wish for is we get three competitive games, my kid contributes meaningfully, and hopefully there will be a moment or two of brilliance that makes the long drive home easier.

Best of the best? I will leave you guys to worry about it.
 
Well said. So much backlash on this forum about this no longer being "best of the best" tournament. I guess all of their kids always played in the best of the best flight. Luckily we never had to worry about that as my kid's team was always placed in one of the other flights.

For any tournament, the only things I wish for is we get three competitive games, my kid contributes meaningfully, and hopefully there will be a moment or two of brilliance that makes the long drive home easier.

Best of the best? I will leave you guys to worry about it.
My ego got so wrapped up in that Tagline bro, I feel sic today about how I bought into it. That is some serious advertising. If any of these soccer orgs ever got around to ask us customers what we really think, I would say this.

Stop grouping players and teams as best of the best or tier 1 or tier two player or flight one or flight two when their 13 and under. This was all tagged as a line to sell us all. I would offer this up. Get all the girls together and form local teams. Each team will have a mix of talent. As the girls get to 14 or 15, then the travel ball. Please forgive me Messi
 
Honest answer - no scrimmages. my kids' teams (I don't play any more) went to AZ and NV in the Fall for games before this pandemic got out of hand, especially in AZ.
Any of the kids get covid? We have done a few scrimmages and one tournament at Thanksgiving, about 6 games total, plus practices, not a single case in the kids or parents. But I know of at least 15 cases(these are people I know) that happened through house get togethers, college study groups, car pooling and work. Indoors vs outdoors. Really makes a huge difference for cases.
 
Any of the kids get covid? We have done a few scrimmages and one tournament, about 6 games total, plus practices, not a single case. But I know of at least 15 cases that happened through house get togethers, college study groups, car pooling and work. Indoors vs outdoors. Really makes a huge difference for cases.
74% of the cases are home spread.

What do you think happens during the holidays?

Surf needs to think and shut this bastard down. If
they want to be greedy change double for surf next year in California since some parents
would risk anything to play and make up for the lost revenue.
 
Well said. So much backlash on this forum about this no longer being "best of the best" tournament. I guess all of their kids always played in the best of the best flight. Luckily we never had to worry about that as my kid's team was always placed in one of the other flights.

For any tournament, the only things I wish for is we get three competitive games, my kid contributes meaningfully, and hopefully there will be a moment or two of brilliance that makes the long drive home easier.

Best of the best? I will leave you guys to worry about it.
I wouldn't characterize it as backlash. Many clubs/teams have backed out due to other top teams backing out. Saying that's a reason for backing out isn't backlash or a dig at Surf, it's a fact. Best of the Best is certainly subjective. If someone is on here whining about the degradation of competition at Surf but doesn't have a player on a team that would be playing in that top bracket, then shame on them.

"Best of the Best" is a tagline endorsed by Surf and sold to parents all over the country. So, for those clubs/players/parents that typically play within the framework of "best of the best", this tournament will not provide that. Every Tournament has a self proclaimed "top" bracket.
 
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