Surf Cup - Get Your Refund Now

SoccerFan4Life said:
I understand why olders are going and why it’s so important for the parents who need them to get a scholarship. They are willing to sacrifice getting covid to get a chance for some financial relief for college. College is very expensive and they must be in a tough situation. Think about the fact that these kids have been training for years and now they finally are ready to showcase their skills but this covid hit and eliminated a full year of opportunities to get in front of college scouts.


I shake my head to see these ulittle kids 7-10 year old teams going. There is no value and no logical reason to go. Some say, my kid just wants to play..... so what! Suck it up and wait or have them kick the ball against other kids in a backyard.
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Bingo just like the Hound Dog. Me and him don't always see eye to eye but we can agree to disagree. Plus, all goats are not the same. I know it's my pride when I get all frustrated at soccer. I came on here and bragged about how my goat was going on three official visits and all these coaches would be blowing up her phone. I just wanted to prove ETOL and his other personalities ((Messy, The Long Game, and espola)) wrong. He told me to my face my dd would be black listed. I swear its him you guys. Same tone and same threats. I hope my dd proves him wrong. Sorry for bringing you all in on this, "I'm right and I will show you." He said, "Your a D bag and no coach will ever deal with a dad like you." Mean little fat man I guess. I said i was chubby and 100% at fault for being unhealthy.
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
I understand why olders are going and why it’s so important for the parents who need them to get a scholarship. They are willing to sacrifice getting covid to get a chance for some financial relief for college. College is very expensive and they must be in a tough situation. Think about the fact that these kids have been training for years and now they finally are ready to showcase their skills but this covid hit and eliminated a full year of opportunities to get in front of college scouts.


I shake my head to see these ulittle kids 7-10 year old teams going. There is no value and no logical reason to go. Some say, my kid just wants to play..... so what! Suck it up and wait or have them kick the ball against other kids in a backyard.
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If I had a younger player, I would not attend due to the cost, location and holiday time of year. I think exercising reasonable safety common sense makes it as safe as going to the grocery store or outside eatery now. Older players are different as you state but if players or parents are betting on a sports scholarship they are foolish unless you have the real unicorn player. 90% of scholarships are for academics. That's where your child's emphasis needs to be focused and if they are good enough to play soccer at their chosen college that's an added bonus. Their college should be chosen based on their future major and career path in life not based on the schools soccer team. My kid is a 4.5gpa. She will earn a scholarship academically if she continues to focus on the books. If she develops into a strong enough player that she also attracts the attention of the soccer coach there then that will be her added bonus. She can red shirt.
 
Lavey29 said:
If I had a younger player, I would not attend due to the cost, location and holiday time of year. I think exercising reasonable safety common sense makes it as safe as going to the grocery store or outside eatery now. Older players are different as you state but if players or parents are betting on a sports scholarship they are foolish unless you have the real unicorn player. 90% of scholarships are for academics. That's where your child's emphasis needs to be focused and if they are good enough to play soccer at their chosen college that's an added bonus. Their college should be chosen based on their future major and career path in life not based on the schools soccer team. My kid is a 4.5gpa. She will earn a scholarship academically if she continues to focus on the books. If she develops into a strong enough player that she also attracts the attention of the soccer coach there then that will be her added bonus. She can red shirt.
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Bingo!! My kid is close to 4.0 now. Kicker thinks I'm bringing too much attention to myself. I witnessed things he never has so he thinks I'm a Coo Coo. Just wait everyone. Clean up clean up clean up. The first to go? GDA BS. Good night now!!!
 
crush said:
Bingo!! My kid is close to 4.0 now. Kicker thinks I'm bringing too much attention to myself. I witnessed things he never has so he thinks I'm a Coo Coo. Just wait everyone. Clean up clean up clean up. The first to go? GDA BS. Good night now!!!
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I tell you a little secret....4.0 is not good enough anymore to get to top schools.
 
dad4 said:
Look, Lavey doesn’t come here with facts. He/she comes here with insults every time someone points out that now is not a good time to hold a convention, or that Surf AZ is going to have far weaker teams than Surf Cup usually does.

Happy9 came with a fact: ICU capacity is at 0% in socal. That is a fact.. Lavey came here to call people sheep. That is an insult, which is different from a fact.

It also adds nothing to the discussion. People are not going to pay $1000 to catch the ‘rona in ‘zona just because some Surf troll calls them sheep.
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Don't sweat it. Some topics are important enough to write about and endure personal attacks from the youth-soccer-trumps-everything-else-in-life parents.

Also, some people are just incapable of understanding the potential scale of this infection. "Doubling every 14 days in AZ" means nothing to them--they just can't grasp the concept. (https://www.kold.com/2020/12/17/university-arizona-expert-warns-humanitarian-crisis-by-christmas/)

This 100-year pandemic and the decision to hold a huge tournament during the absolute virus peak (literally; I mean you couldn't have chosen a worse time) might be the most important subject ever discussed on this forum. It affects many of us in SoCal now (attend or withdraw) and has the potential to affect all of us in the near future--does Surf's money grab end up hindering our kids' soccer playing opportunities locally this Spring?

I pray for healthy and safe holidays for all players and families and look forward to a time when the debates are about more trivial matters again.
 
crush said:
Bingo!! My kid is close to 4.0 now. Kicker thinks I'm bringing too much attention to myself. I witnessed things he never has so he thinks I'm a Coo Coo. Just wait everyone. Clean up clean up clean up. The first to go? GDA BS. Good night now!!!
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My boys were smarter than I expected in their decison making. They are seniors in HS and both walked away from top of their school (Wrestling & Cross Country) once the quarantine hit. I was so heart broken that they gave up sports back in March of 2019. I was mad and thinking they were wasting chances at potential athletic scholarships. Who new this covid quarantine would last 12 months. Now they just have a part time job and just focused on getting academic scholarships.
 
Eagle33 said:
I tell you a little secret....4.0 is not good enough anymore to get to top schools.
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Here's another secret. Two years of community college to save tons of money and then they have a better chance at getting at a top school (No scholarships but you save 2 years of expensive tuition). It's easier said than done when your kid has a high gpa and the perception for them is that community college is not for them.
 
Eagle33 said:
I tell you a little secret....4.0 is not good enough anymore to get to top schools.
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Truth. Personal knowledge in academia. Grade inflation predominates. It really depends on your kid's high school. At many, you get a B just for showing up, even in AP classes. Ain't like it used to be. Universities know.
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
My boys were smarter than I expected in their decison making. They are seniors in HS and both walked away from top of their school (Wrestling & Cross Country) once the quarantine hit. I was so heart broken that they gave up sports back in March of 2019. I was mad and thinking they were wasting chances at potential athletic scholarships. Who new this covid quarantine would last 12 months. Now they just have a part time job and just focused on getting academic scholarships.
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My dd honestly wanted to play soccer against the best of the best and not get hounded to send emails in 7th grade. Unfortunately, the men took over the sport in socal and made two leagues and told public school kids and their parents that they cant play in their league because it's their league to make all the money, off the girls hard work. So they then decided that only rich kids that go to private school and get a waiver in their league that the men started. It's the men you guys, get it?
 
oh canada said:
Truth. Personal knowledge in academia. Grade inflation predominates. It really depends on your kid's high school. At many, you get a B just for showing up, even in AP classes. Ain't like it used to be. Universities know.
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That started happening when EVERY kid starting getting participation metals!!! So much of society is turning to everyone needs to be the equal, and everything needs to be fair, and you can see the impact on things such as grades in school. Funny thing is colleges and good business see right through it, and those that were given free rides and those that wanted everyone to be on the same level, are the ones that end up getting repressed and never rise above.
 
crush said:
My dd honestly wanted to play soccer against the best of the best and not get hounded to send emails in 7th grade. Unfortunately, the men took over the sport in socal and made two leagues and told public school kids and their parents that they cant play in their league because it's their league to make all the money, off the girls hard work. So they then decided that only rich kids that go to private school and get a waiver in their league that the men started. It's the men you guys, get it?
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They've done this for boys way before girls. Don't kid yourself.
 
lafalafa said:
Or you just be a great soccer player that meets the requirements and has a 3.5gpa. At least UCLA, UC Santa Barbara, Maryland do and have for 2020's and 21's on the mens side.
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Women's is definitely much different than men's when acceptance is concerned.
 
notintheface said:
165 teams.

Just an FYI for everyone, whenever a team drops out, an entire bracket needs to be rescheduled. This is, as you can imagine, not the easiest thing in the world, especially when you get into odd numbers of teams and you need to start doing cross-bracket scheduling. I wonder how many 1-0 forfeits we'll see.

I hope the 2000 players and their families stay safe and virus-free.
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161 teams.
 
Spfister said:
What I truthfully don’t get is why there are so many on here who have made it 1000% clear they have no interest in and are not going to Surf, but yet they’re still on this thread incessantly obsessing about Surf. Have they nothing better to do? It’s pathetic. Move on. Even the person that started this thread about getting refunds for Surf is not going to Surf.
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The most vehement and long-winded ones are likely the same person. Don't be fooled. And, no, they don't have anything better to do.
 
MrCruett said:
I just pray it goes off without a hitch for the obvious reasons. And if it does go sideways, soccer will be the poster child for the no youth sports movement and in a way you will have to carry some of the weight for the 2021 season getting hosed.
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Agree, the sad part is that they haven't needed an excuse to hose the kids so far.
 
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