I believe the correct number is 165 for the youngers. But it's Friday and those numbers can go up or down..
Surf Cup - Get Your Refund Now
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The older's number of 516 teams was posted by Surf on their website around a week ago with no change since it was posted.
The almost doubling of cases and deaths in California happened a couple of days ago on Dec 16 per Worldometer ,
I would like to see Surf's updated numbers .
BTW the youngers numbers were updated yesterday.
@dad4, you seem like one of the good guys that I don't always agree with. You know most of the posts here are bullshit. Nobody knows what is going to happen in Zona and nothing you say is going to stop people from paying $1000s to play. Sheep. Whatever. Hardly worth getting triggered over. I wish we were going. Surf is a big event on the calendar every year, and plans are always made to be sure nothing conflicts with it. Probably no different than everyone else here with kids. I'm glad our team pulled out. After all, it is xmas, and soccer can monkey fuck a futbol this time of year unless its local and convenient. However, I don't agree with the govt interference and get annoyed at the badgering people get for attending. I'm sure @Lavey29 does too.
@Lavey29, I hope you have a great time and share with us how it went. I just pray it goes off without a hitch for the obvious reasons. And if it does go sideways, soccer will be the poster child for the no youth sports movement and in a way you will have to carry some of the weight for the 2021 season getting hosed.
66 olders teams dropped out according to correspondence and they where accepting 50 additional teams earlier in the week.
Now that the 16th deadline has passed will see how it shakes out but 450-500 teams is a still a lot.
Since the title of this thread is on refunds , here is the Surf policy on refunds posted on the Surf wed site for olders as of a couple minutes ago.
As I literally read it there is no deadline date relating to the sentence in bold,
Refund Policy:
Accepted teams that request to drop from the tournament prior to the November 15, 2020 application deadline will be entitled to a full refund less a $75 administration fee and less the credit card processing fee.
Any accepted team is not entitled to a refund for any reason after the November 15, 2020 application deadline.
Submitting an application does not guarantee acceptance; Notwithstanding the foregoing, if a governmental order cancels the event or prevents your team from traveling to the event, you will receive a full refund minus any credit card processing transaction fee.
As I literally read it there is no deadline date relating to the sentence in bold,
Refund Policy:
Accepted teams that request to drop from the tournament prior to the November 15, 2020 application deadline will be entitled to a full refund less a $75 administration fee and less the credit card processing fee.
Any accepted team is not entitled to a refund for any reason after the November 15, 2020 application deadline.
Submitting an application does not guarantee acceptance; Notwithstanding the foregoing, if a governmental order cancels the event or prevents your team from traveling to the event, you will receive a full refund minus any credit card processing transaction fee.
Scott m Shurson
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This is what your pal refers to as a Straw Man argument. Your shit is as weak as his.
Well stated...
Ain't that the truth.
Yes, the location and cost may not be the best for youngers but kids just want to get out and play. I agree though the tournament is geared more for older teams hence the college coach presence.
SoccerFan4Life
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I understand why olders are going and why it’s so important for the parents who need them to get a scholarship. They are willing to sacrifice getting covid to get a chance for some financial relief for college. College is very expensive and they must be in a tough situation. Think about the fact that these kids have been training for years and now they finally are ready to showcase their skills but this covid hit and eliminated a full year of opportunities to get in front of college scouts.
I shake my head to see these ulittle kids 7-10 year old teams going. There is no value and no logical reason to go. Some say, my kid just wants to play..... so what! Suck it up and wait or have them kick the ball against other kids in a backyard.
Bingo just like the Hound Dog. Me and him don't always see eye to eye but we can agree to disagree. Plus, all goats are not the same. I know it's my pride when I get all frustrated at soccer. I came on here and bragged about how my goat was going on three official visits and all these coaches would be blowing up her phone. I just wanted to prove ETOL and his other personalities ((Messy, The Long Game, and espola)) wrong. He told me to my face my dd would be black listed. I swear its him you guys. Same tone and same threats. I hope my dd proves him wrong. Sorry for bringing you all in on this, "I'm right and I will show you." He said, "Your a D bag and no coach will ever deal with a dad like you." Mean little fat man I guess. I said i was chubby and 100% at fault for being unhealthy.
If I had a younger player, I would not attend due to the cost, location and holiday time of year. I think exercising reasonable safety common sense makes it as safe as going to the grocery store or outside eatery now. Older players are different as you state but if players or parents are betting on a sports scholarship they are foolish unless you have the real unicorn player. 90% of scholarships are for academics. That's where your child's emphasis needs to be focused and if they are good enough to play soccer at their chosen college that's an added bonus. Their college should be chosen based on their future major and career path in life not based on the schools soccer team. My kid is a 4.5gpa. She will earn a scholarship academically if she continues to focus on the books. If she develops into a strong enough player that she also attracts the attention of the soccer coach there then that will be her added bonus. She can red shirt.
Bingo!! My kid is close to 4.0 now. Kicker thinks I'm bringing too much attention to myself. I witnessed things he never has so he thinks I'm a Coo Coo. Just wait everyone. Clean up clean up clean up. The first to go? GDA BS. Good night now!!!
Eagle33
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I tell you a little secret....4.0 is not good enough anymore to get to top schools.
oh canada
GOLD
Don't sweat it. Some topics are important enough to write about and endure personal attacks from the youth-soccer-trumps-everything-else-in-life parents.
Also, some people are just incapable of understanding the potential scale of this infection. "Doubling every 14 days in AZ" means nothing to them--they just can't grasp the concept. (https://www.kold.com/2020/12/17/university-arizona-expert-warns-humanitarian-crisis-by-christmas/)
This 100-year pandemic and the decision to hold a huge tournament during the absolute virus peak (literally; I mean you couldn't have chosen a worse time) might be the most important subject ever discussed on this forum. It affects many of us in SoCal now (attend or withdraw) and has the potential to affect all of us in the near future--does Surf's money grab end up hindering our kids' soccer playing opportunities locally this Spring?
I pray for healthy and safe holidays for all players and families and look forward to a time when the debates are about more trivial matters again.
GPA's go far beyond a 4.0 to get in what we consider preferred schools. Student resumes have to be filled with more than grades and athletics. Test scores are still a factor at many schools. Many scholarships are not athletic but academic.
SoccerFan4Life
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My boys were smarter than I expected in their decison making. They are seniors in HS and both walked away from top of their school (Wrestling & Cross Country) once the quarantine hit. I was so heart broken that they gave up sports back in March of 2019. I was mad and thinking they were wasting chances at potential athletic scholarships. Who new this covid quarantine would last 12 months. Now they just have a part time job and just focused on getting academic scholarships.
SoccerFan4Life
PREMIER
Here's another secret. Two years of community college to save tons of money and then they have a better chance at getting at a top school (No scholarships but you save 2 years of expensive tuition). It's easier said than done when your kid has a high gpa and the perception for them is that community college is not for them.
oh canada
GOLD
Truth. Personal knowledge in academia. Grade inflation predominates. It really depends on your kid's high school. At many, you get a B just for showing up, even in AP classes. Ain't like it used to be. Universities know.
And you need strong off campus work in your resume also such as noticeable charity work or notable volunteer work for your community.
My dd honestly wanted to play soccer against the best of the best and not get hounded to send emails in 7th grade. Unfortunately, the men took over the sport in socal and made two leagues and told public school kids and their parents that they cant play in their league because it's their league to make all the money, off the girls hard work. So they then decided that only rich kids that go to private school and get a waiver in their league that the men started. It's the men you guys, get it?