Strikers ECNL rumors

I don't buy this either. We are in OC and know almost all of the top of the recruitment class for our area and haven't seen/heard this anywhere...
Are you serious? I am not selling my truth by the way. I am NOT talking about today's 8th graders either for the 100th time...lol. I AM TALKING AOUT THE CLASS OF 2022, WHEN THEY WERE IN 8TH GRADE. I KNOW 7TH GRADERS THAT GOT FULL RIDE BECAUSE SHE WAS THE GOAT OF HER CLASS. Come on now, I don't lie ((on purpose)). I told my neighbor to go all in Strikers last week because they have ECNL. Not no more and does that make me a liar?
 
Do they not have enough talent to field a solid 07 and a solid 06 team? Do their 06’s play up in 05? I dislike “playing up” except for the one or two phenom’s who just can’t play with their age group. HS season is interesting enough with the different age groups, imo club should be their age appropriate peers.
I think playing up in ECRL with a quality coach if you can't find an ECNL spot was a good move for those 07 girls, many of whom came over with her from West Coast GA. I would expect them to move to the 07 ECNL team at Pats next season. I suspect ECNL spots at Pats for the 06s and 07s to get filled by an assortment of existing Pats players, Strikers players, ECNL players at other clubs who want a change and some ECRL players at other clubs who are capable of playing at the ECNL level. Strikers losing ECNL was a nice win for Pats as it should help them fill out their rosters with quality players.
 
I'm starting to sense a tipping point with ECNL.

Booting Clubs because they're all in on MLS Next wont work in the long run.

As more and more clubs go all in on MLS Next ECNL wont be able to keep the girls under thumb. Eventually theres going to be hurt feelings + clubs will be looking for league alternatives.

Also, MLS Next and GA seem to be loosely affiliated (might be wrong) if this is the case MLS Next could also play the exclusion game not allowing big clubs in unless they drop Girls ECNL and go GA.

Didnt this exact playbook happen with DA + ECNL 10+ years ago?
I don't believe that there is any link between MLS Next & GA, never mind an affiliation of any kind.

10+ years ago there was the ECNL for girls and the DA for boys. Those were the top levels nationwide.
 
LetsGooooo said:
Which school has 5 girls in the 8th grade committed already? I just don’t believe that. They haven’t even played high school level yet and have 5 more years to grow and they already have scholarships to play soccer at college? No way….

I don't buy this either. We are in OC and know/have played with almost all of the top of the recruitment class for our area and haven't seen/heard this anywhere...

Crush is right. Look at the 10 class of 2022 recruits for UCLA (just as an example). At least 5 of those players accepted verbal offers four years ago when they were in 8th grade, right before the "new" NCAA recruiting rules went into effect. It was either accept the offer or wait until the summer after their sophomore year.

Maybe because they were verbal offers/acceptances, not everyone was aware. But many parents and players were. Clubs made announcements, etc. No question, at least 5 of those girls verbally committed to UCLA back then while they were in 8th grade. Obviously, that doesn't happen anymore with the newer rules.
 
I don't believe that there is any link between MLS Next & GA, never mind an affiliation of any kind.

10+ years ago there was the ECNL for girls and the DA for boys. Those were the top levels nationwide.
There is a loose affiliation. Don't know what it means and what advantages it provides. The GA commissioner is savvy, respected and reportedly personally committed to gir's soccer development. She has a great track record. The GA seems to understand their place and have been patient in building out the league across the country. I don't think they consider themselves the most talented but may consider themselves the best girls only platform. And yes, it's still a money grab but the organization appears patient and business savvy. Plenty of parents with kids and plenty NCAA roster spots available. Seems like the GA is going for inclusive VS exclusive, yet still kinda elite. Pretty much what most players really are.

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Crush is right. Look at the 10 class of 2022 recruits for UCLA (just as an example). At least 5 of those players accepted verbal offers four years ago when they were in 8th grade, right before the "new" NCAA recruiting rules went into effect. It was either accept the offer or wait until the summer after their sophomore year.

Maybe because they were verbal offers/acceptances, not everyone was aware. But many parents and players were. Clubs made announcements, etc. No question, at least 5 of those girls verbally committed to UCLA back then while they were in 8th grade. Obviously, that doesn't happen anymore with the newer rules.
Thanks Dean. Crush is right. I lived the 7th and 8th grade sales pitches from those in the middle ((no coach ever talked to my kid about recruiting and my kid did not talk to them in 7th & 8th grade)). "Hey, so and so is coming to help with the drills so be on good behavior." My dd scored two goals against that Quakes team full of YNT and Bruins. My dd was fired up and why shouldn;t she be. She missed the first list and still had something to prove and boy did she. It was the first year of the GDA and her team won 2-0. They just came off winning Far West Regionals and the Natty in 2017. She circled the Quakes and the Legends because each had 5 YNT players and my dd and her teammates had something to prove and they did, by winning. Her team won 5-0 or something like that against Legends. I watched it with my eyes. The moral of story is the girls have no power in this sport and the men will do whatever they need to do to make money first.
 
I don't buy this either. We are in OC and know/have played with almost all of the top of the recruitment class for our area and haven't seen/heard this anywhere...
The recruitment rules changed, effective May 1, 2019. Currently, D1 colleges cannot speak with recruits before June 15th after their sophomore year. Before then, there were plenty of girls who committed in 8th grade (which was the impetus for the change, since many parents and coaches felt girls weren't ready to make that commitment so early).
 
The recruitment rules changed, effective May 1, 2019. Currently, D1 colleges cannot speak with recruits before June 15th after their sophomore year. Before then, there were plenty of girls who committed in 8th grade (which was the impetus for the change, since many parents and coaches felt girls weren't ready to make that commitment so early).
I wonder if there is a database anywhere that shows the success of those early commitments. Did they end up at the intended school? Did they play, and if so, how well?
 
The recruitment rules changed, effective May 1, 2019. Currently, D1 colleges cannot speak with recruits before June 15th after their sophomore year. Before then, there were plenty of girls who committed in 8th grade (which was the impetus for the change, since many parents and coaches felt girls weren't ready to make that commitment so early).
Yes - everything CRUSH speaks about is from his personal experience and might have applied 3 years ago, which is the reason everyone is confused.

Currently, no eighth graders are committed.
 
There is a loose affiliation. Don't know what it means and what advantages it provides. The GA commissioner is savvy, respected and reportedly personally committed to gir's soccer development. She has a great track record. The GA seems to understand their place and have been patient in building out the league across the country. I don't think they consider themselves the most talented but may consider themselves the best girls only platform. And yes, it's still a money grab but the organization appears patient and business savvy. Plenty of parents with kids and plenty NCAA roster spots available. Seems like the GA is going for inclusive VS exclusive, yet still kinda elite. Pretty much what most players really are.

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I think the attached article is old news. I saw this letter posted on another forum:
To: The GA Family
From: Skip Gilbert, USYS CEO

To All:

When the Girls Academy launched in 2020, US Youth Soccer (USYS) put aside all competitive differences to our National League, an elite competitive environment established 15-years ago, consisting of 13 conferences, over 3,500 teams and 80,000 players to show unbridled support. Specifically, we built a national registration process to allow the GA to register its players in one fluid motion, through USYS to their respective State Association.

Our goal was to support the GA off the field so they could create an elite environment to allow the players to succeed on it. We also hoped that given our 48-year history, that the GA would want to utilize many of our programming assets to complement their on-field efforts. For example, USYS offered all GA teams the opportunity to partner with our National League, to join forces with our National League P.R.O. and USYS National Showcase events, which would have provided incredible showcasing opportunities for all teams.

We offered our Olympic Development Program (ODP). ODP has been active since 1977 and provides over 40,000 players each year an opportunity to take advantage of a high-performance training experience that helps every player elevate their game on and off the field.

We opened the door for teams to enter our State Cup Tournaments. The State Cups represent the first-round action for our prestigious National Championship Series (NCS). The NCS is a competition that has earned its place as the premier National Championship in youth soccer since 1974.

Finally, we are launching this fall, the National League Elite 64. This top-tier platform of the National League will invite the best 64 clubs across 8 geographic conferences to compete together. Every game will be a recruitable moment. Once the season begins this fall, only teams in the National League will have the right to be promoted into Elite 64. The National League will embrace a promotion/relegation system allowing USYS to live-up to its principles that every team must "Earn Your Place" and regardless of skill level, every team will "Have A Home".

Our vision is to bring communities together through the power of soccer, making life-long fans of the game. As a part of that vision, we operate under four core priorities. One, to create programming that provides any child the opportunity to learn and love our game. Two, to create pathways that support any level of skill to encourage all players to stay playing straight through their teenage years. Three, to invest in player development platforms that will allow every player the ability to elevate their game to the highest level possible. Four, to invest resources behind the acquisition, retention and development of coaches, and referees while creating a learning center to help parents embrace positive support techniques and sideline behavior.

Unfortunately, the GA has taken a stand to discourage any team or player from taking advantage of the USYS portfolio of assets and most recently, mandating that no club accept our invitation to join the USYS National League Elite 64. As I write this, the GA Board is planning to meet Wednesday to decide if they as a league should remain a part of the overall USYS Family or move over to a separate sanctioning body.

To me, this simply does not appear to be a true partnership. Because of this, and beginning with the fall 2022 season, should the GA remain within the USYS Family, we will make one change in our offered support. We will no longer recognize the GA as a national platform. As such, we will no longer offer the GA a single registration process but ask that each team register directly with our National Network of State Associations. This is the same process that is embraced by tens of thousands of teams and over 2.3 million players every year.

While we value the GA and what they are bringing to the sport, we must remain fair and consistent to the 2.3 million other players that do utilize our vast resources. Again, since most teams within the GA already had a direct relationship with its State Association, registering direct through them will not be a burden and will not impact any specific player.

Have a great spring season and feel free to reach out with any questions. My email address is sgilbert@usyouthsoccer.org.
 
I remember hearing about verbal commitments for pre high school girls back in the DA days.

Also they wouldn't have changed recruiting rules to not before "June 15th after their sophomore year" if it wasn't happening.
 
I wonder if there is a database anywhere that shows the success of those early commitments. Did they end up at the intended school? Did they play, and if so, how well?
I don't know of any such database, but it would be interesting. I know one of the proxies used to justify the rule change was the extremely high transfer rate, which many felt might at least partially be attributable to the length of time between when a recruit committed and when they actually arrived on campus. My anecdotal sense is that this probably isn't driving the transfer rate, partially because the transfer rate remains high, it is high for boys too, who are recruited and commit much later because of their delayed physical development, and the number of early girls commits was still likely too small to drive the overall high numbers. It's not clear yet because those early commits are still entering the system and the pandemic is a disruption that makes interpreting current transfer rates more difficult.
 
I think playing up in ECRL with a quality coach if you can't find an ECNL spot was a good move for those 07 girls, many of whom came over with her from West Coast GA. I would expect them to move to the 07 ECNL team at Pats next season. I suspect ECNL spots at Pats for the 06s and 07s to get filled by an assortment of existing Pats players, Strikers players, ECNL players at other clubs who want a change and some ECRL players at other clubs who are capable of playing at the ECNL level. Strikers losing ECNL was a nice win for Pats as it should help them fill out their rosters with quality players.
I think Pats have already recruited and their ECRL team will be their ECNL team for next season with some tweaks. Look at their ECRL record since the break..
 
Strikers do not have Boys ECNL. Only Girls. Been that way since they went MLS Next.
I really don't understand why the Strikers ECNL girls got punished for this mess. People with boys know the Strikers chapter that is currently a member of the MLS-Next (and formerly a member of boys DA) has always been a top notch BOYS-ONLY club. The ECNL girls' program is run out of Strikers North, a totally different chapter that has their own boys and girls programs. I don't know which chapter is the mothership and which one is the affiliate, but there is no day-to-day interaction between the two operations.

It's really unfortunate that 100+ girls now might have to go through the tryout hoopla for events that have absolutely nothing to do with their program.
 
I really don't understand why the Strikers ECNL girls got punished for this mess. People with boys know the Strikers chapter that is currently a member of the MLS-Next (and formerly a member of boys DA) has always been a top notch BOYS-ONLY club. The ECNL girls' program is run out of Strikers North, a totally different chapter that has their own boys and girls programs. I don't know which chapter is the mothership and which one is the affiliate, but there is no day-to-day interaction between the two operations.

It's really unfortunate that 100+ girls now might have to go through the tryout hoopla for events that have absolutely nothing to do with their program.

100% this.
 
There will be changes.....that RL team isn't good enough to compete at NL as is. No disrespect but it will need a few pieces. Also, it will have a different coach so it will change.
What i am saying is Pats ECRL teams have been a lot better since the break. Not sure if they got new players, coach told them they are getting ECNL or what but there is a real uptick in how they are doing in the league. Likely a combination of those things.

When are ECNL/RL tryouts in CA?
 
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