Some data on Covid-19 and why we're not over reacting...

You fucking dimwits in your zeal to watch the entire country come apart, have no vision, or possibly lack the capacity to see what's coming.
 
Michigan Democratic State Representative Karen Whitsett told Fox News host Laura Ingraham on Monday that the controversial drug hydroxychloroquine stopped her coronavirus symptoms "within a couple hours."

Whitsett represents parts of Detroit, a city that has been labeled a coronavirus "hot spot." Recent data indicated 5,032 positive cases in Detroit with 196 deaths attributable to the virus reported in the city.

Here are some of the infected patients who have credited the medication for the improvement in their condition.

Rio Giardinieri, who is the vice-president of a company that manufactures cooking equipment for high-end restaurants in Los Angeles, said his doctors administered the drug as a last hope for his recovery.

The 52-year-old believes he contracted the virus during a conference in New York and immediately fell ill with a fever for five days, back pain, headaches, a cough and fatigue.

'I was at the point where I was barely able to speak, and breathing was very challenging,' he told Fox 6.

He went to Joe DiMaggio Hospital in South Florida, where doctors diagnosed him with pneumonia and coronavirus.

Giardinieri explained that he was placed on oxygen but he was still unable to breath.

After a week, doctors told him there was nothing else they could do and on Friday evening he said goodbye to his wife and three children.

'I really thought my end was there. I had been through nine days of solid pain and for me, the end was there, so I made some calls to say, in my own way, goodbye to my friends and family,' he told the news site.

Giardinieri said a friend then told him about the anti-malaria drug. He immediately asked a doctor to administer the medication.

He then explained what came next, including the moment when he felt like his heart was beating out of his chest.

'They had to come in, and get me calmed down, and take care of me,' Giardinieri said.

But then the next morning he says he 'woke up like nothing ever happened' and feeling much better.

The doctors said they don't believe Giardinieri's episode was a reaction to the anti-malaria drug but instead was likely the virus progressing in his body.

'To me, the drug saved my life,' Giardinieri said.



Meanwhile Margaret Novins in New Jersey, where there are more than 2,800 confirmed coronavirus cases and 27 deaths, Novins had a very similar experience.

She told Forbes that she began feeling ill on March 8 and by March 15 she 'couldn't breathe'.

Novins said she was initially diagnosed with pneumonia before getting more test results back on March 19 that showed she was positive for coronavirus.

The 53-year-old said her doctors categorized her as 'critical' and she was given the hydroxychloroquine drug. When she woke up on Saturday her fever was gone, which is 'fantastic', she said.

Novins told the news site that her doctor 'insisted the pharmacy get it to me the minute we got the positive'.

'It seemed like their go-to right away.'


In North Carolina, Jeff Hensley, 57, was hospitalized over the weekend with labored breathing after he tested positive for COVID-19

The Harnett County man started feeling sick on March 4 while working in Hawaii.

According to The News & Observer, Hensley had asked to be tested for the virus three times after returning to North Carolina on March 7.

His wife told the news site that her husband was finally admitted and 'is on oxygen'.

She said doctors are currently treating him with the anti-malaria drug.

Though the drug is not FDA approved his wife says she's glad he's being treated with it.

Entire article https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...nti-malaria-drug-helped-recover-COVID-19.html
 
My next door neighbor's brother was on his death bed with type 2 diabetes and corona virus.
On a ventilator, and thought to be a goner.
They administered hydroxichloraquine+z-Pack and in 18 hours he was walking out of the hospital.
My co-worker who is very young but has high blood pressure had a similar positive response to chloroquine. But another friend of mine who had no pre-existing conditions and is a long distance runner as well didn’t experience any benefit from hydro I chloroquine. In fact it made her very ill with nausea and vomiting so they had to stop. Both were in ICU at the same hospital chain, one in SF and one in San Jose. So I think the verdict on hydroXiamen chloroquine is still very much undecided.

Remdesivir is looking promising. If this can be used prophylactically even better

You fucking dimwits in your zeal to watch the entire country come apart, have no vision, or possibly lack the capacity to see what's coming.
And this is why rational conversation is impossible. No one on this site, on either “side”, have a zeal to watch the entire country fall apart. No one.
 

The website is commonly used to publish research papers before they have been reviewed by others knowledgable in the field and accepted for publication in an established journal. They are always willing to listen to experts, such as Southern California plumbers, for example.
 
My next door neighbor's brother was on his death bed with type 2 diabetes and corona virus.
On a ventilator, and thought to be a goner.
They administered hydroxichloraquine+z-Pack and in 18 hours he was walking out of the hospital.

Send your data to the authors. That's what is posted on the website for - to gather reviews.

Did it cure his diabetes also?
 
Keep digging big guy.
I love how you and spola are intertwined.
Its almost like you're the same douchebag.
You complete eachother's sentences and answer questions for eachother.
You even use the same little phrases.
What should I be digging for, the truth?

Should I dig for my barber shop that just went under?
 
Norway and Sweden have similar populations and similar universal health care plans. Norway had strict social isolation protocols in place; Sweden did not.

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Hi, I think this is a really good piece of information. The different approaches to dealing with Covid-19 will definitely have different results. My biggest issue, and this is just an observation, is much of the data and analysis is so binary. Meaning its mortality rate, its this, or that...its singular. I'm guilty of it. This is a multi faceted situation and if you focus on only one area only, you will disregard others that make an impact to society, country, commerce, well being, etc.. Think of weather...which area of the world is best? If you focus on just temperature, you are eliminating, humidity, wind, precipitation, elevation, etc. from the equation and may leave out a better place. My vote is San Diego...used to live there...I think this is the same in terms of the many factors that need to be determined to figure out the right course of action for dealing with this. It is so multi-faceted that there are so many variables to consider. We can all focus on one area, spin a narrative one way or the other (not blaming or pointing fingers at anyone...just replied to @espola 's post because I thought the data point was intriguing), but there are a combination of variables that are in play to come up with the best solution for our country in terms of how to deal with this and move forward. It is very dynamic. Lots of perspectives and views. Nobody and I mean nobody wants people to die. Nobody wants others to be in financial ruin, distress, without food, shelter, lose their livelihoods, homes, etc. People have different perspectives based on their experiences, and some feel more strongly than others regarding guidance provided, freedoms, choice, data, etc. There is a balance or Goldilocks Zone here somewhere. I just hope our elected leaders can find it before we all beat the shit out of each other. Its getting ugly out there and on here.
 
Hi, I think this is a really good piece of information. The different approaches to dealing with Covid-19 will definitely have different results. My biggest issue, and this is just an observation, is much of the data and analysis is so binary. Meaning its mortality rate, its this, or that...its singular. I'm guilty of it. This is a multi faceted situation and if you focus on only one area only, you will disregard others that make an impact to society, country, commerce, well being, etc.. Think of weather...which area of the world is best? If you focus on just temperature, you are eliminating, humidity, wind, precipitation, elevation, etc. from the equation and may leave out a better place. My vote is San Diego...used to live there...I think this is the same in terms of the many factors that need to be determined to figure out the right course of action for dealing with this. It is so multi-faceted that there are so many variables to consider. We can all focus on one area, spin a narrative one way or the other (not blaming or pointing fingers at anyone...just replied to @espola 's post because I thought the data point was intriguing), but there are a combination of variables that are in play to come up with the best solution for our country in terms of how to deal with this and move forward. It is very dynamic. Lots of perspectives and views. Nobody and I mean nobody wants people to die. Nobody wants others to be in financial ruin, distress, without food, shelter, lose their livelihoods, homes, etc. People have different perspectives based on their experiences, and some feel more strongly than others regarding guidance provided, freedoms, choice, data, etc. There is a balance or Goldilocks Zone here somewhere. I just hope our elected leaders can find it before we all beat the shit out of each other. Its getting ugly out there and on here.
Spola is in the authoritarian camp.
He wants all of us to knuckle under and submit to a benevolent government lordship.
masks and gloves mandatory, and any dissent mocked, and ultimately crushed.
 
I love how you and spola are intertwined.
Its almost like you're the same douchebag.
You complete eachother's sentences and answer questions for eachother.
You even use the same little phrases.
What should I be digging for, the truth?

Should I dig for my barber shop that just went under?
That's funny coming from one of the I know how he feels about it guys.
 
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