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Funny how these guys that think they are smarter than scientist often ask questions about the mundane, easily knowable and readily apparent.
Some data on Covid-19 and why we're not over reacting...
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30 seconds is about how long you would last at a Trump Rally...
You would remove yourself out of shame due to pissin your pants.....
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This something you see to be proud of?
LA Times
By CHRISTOPHER REYNOLDS,
MARY FORGIONE
APRIL 16, 2020
9:55 AM
UPDATED APRIL 19, 2020 | 10:53 PM
Southern Californians can still walk, hike and bike outdoors without violating Gov. Gavin Newsom’s stay-at-home order. But public officials urge residents to stay home as much as possible and wear masks when they go out.
Local, state and federal agencies continue to enforce closures or severely limited access at hundreds of beaches, parks, trails and forests, all phased in since early March. Yet as the measures move into their second month of enforcement, differences in government policies and enforcement have become more apparent.....
....Meanwhile, Los Angeles County’s tennis courts, beaches, piers, beach bike paths, beach access points, public trails and trailheads are closed through May 15 under the county’s current Safer at Home order. That order covers beaches in every coastal city and unincorporated area of the county....
....The city of San Diego closed all of its beaches, parks and trails on March 24.
The Port of San Diego, which controls 34 miles of the county’s coastline, including many parks, on March 24 closed all of its parks, beaches, parking lots, piers and boat launches.
The cities of Carlsbad, Encinitas, Imperial Beach, Del Mar, Solana Beach, Oceanside and Coronado have closed their beaches.
Under a San Diego County health order issue updated April 10 and effective through April 30, most of that county’s parks and preserves remained open for pedestrians, cyclists and equestrians, but their parking lots and many facilities and amenities are closed. Also forbidden under the order: surfing, swimming and recreational boating on public waterways and beaches.
read entire article...or have someone read it to you Magoo...
As of April 17: What's open and closed among beaches, parks and trails in Southern California
As California struggled against the pandemic, leaders stress isolation. Public lands restrictions remain tight, especially in L.A. County.
www.latimes.com
Yes, I’m definitely curious to see how that turns out. I have no ill will, and I truly hope that there isn’t a surge of new infections.
LA Times
By CHRISTOPHER REYNOLDS,
MARY FORGIONE
APRIL 16, 2020
9:55 AM
UPDATED APRIL 19, 2020 | 10:53 PM
Southern Californians can still walk, hike and bike outdoors without violating Gov. Gavin Newsom’s stay-at-home order. But public officials urge residents to stay home as much as possible and wear masks when they go out.
Local, state and federal agencies continue to enforce closures or severely limited access at hundreds of beaches, parks, trails and forests, all phased in since early March. Yet as the measures move into their second month of enforcement, differences in government policies and enforcement have become more apparent.....
....Meanwhile, Los Angeles County’s tennis courts, beaches, piers, beach bike paths, beach access points, public trails and trailheads are closed through May 15 under the county’s current Safer at Home order. That order covers beaches in every coastal city and unincorporated area of the county....
....The city of San Diego closed all of its beaches, parks and trails on March 24.
The Port of San Diego, which controls 34 miles of the county’s coastline, including many parks, on March 24 closed all of its parks, beaches, parking lots, piers and boat launches.
The cities of Carlsbad, Encinitas, Imperial Beach, Del Mar, Solana Beach, Oceanside and Coronado have closed their beaches.
Under a San Diego County health order issue updated April 10 and effective through April 30, most of that county’s parks and preserves remained open for pedestrians, cyclists and equestrians, but their parking lots and many facilities and amenities are closed. Also forbidden under the order: surfing, swimming and recreational boating on public waterways and beaches.
read entire article...or have someone read it to you Magoo...
As of April 17: What's open and closed among beaches, parks and trails in Southern California
As California struggled against the pandemic, leaders stress isolation. Public lands restrictions remain tight, especially in L.A. County.
Latest word (April 8) from the San Diego County about county recreation facilities -- Parking lots are closed, but "Said facilities shall be used solely for walking, hiking, equestrian and bicycle riding."
From City of Oceanside web page -- "The River Trail is open, but Trail Head parking lots are closed, per County Public Health Orders. "
I am going to answer you in a sincere way (no snark, sarcasm) and hopefully you will respond in kind.LA Times
By CHRISTOPHER REYNOLDS,
MARY FORGIONE
APRIL 16, 2020
9:55 AM
UPDATED APRIL 19, 2020 | 10:53 PM
Southern Californians can still walk, hike and bike outdoors without violating Gov. Gavin Newsom’s stay-at-home order. But public officials urge residents to stay home as much as possible and wear masks when they go out.
Local, state and federal agencies continue to enforce closures or severely limited access at hundreds of beaches, parks, trails and forests, all phased in since early March. Yet as the measures move into their second month of enforcement, differences in government policies and enforcement have become more apparent.....
....Meanwhile, Los Angeles County’s tennis courts, beaches, piers, beach bike paths, beach access points, public trails and trailheads are closed through May 15 under the county’s current Safer at Home order. That order covers beaches in every coastal city and unincorporated area of the county....
....The city of San Diego closed all of its beaches, parks and trails on March 24.
The Port of San Diego, which controls 34 miles of the county’s coastline, including many parks, on March 24 closed all of its parks, beaches, parking lots, piers and boat launches.
The cities of Carlsbad, Encinitas, Imperial Beach, Del Mar, Solana Beach, Oceanside and Coronado have closed their beaches.
Under a San Diego County health order issue updated April 10 and effective through April 30, most of that county’s parks and preserves remained open for pedestrians, cyclists and equestrians, but their parking lots and many facilities and amenities are closed. Also forbidden under the order: surfing, swimming and recreational boating on public waterways and beaches.
read entire article...or have someone read it to you Magoo...
As of April 17: What's open and closed among beaches, parks and trails in Southern California
As California struggled against the pandemic, leaders stress isolation. Public lands restrictions remain tight, especially in L.A. County.
Firstly I only skimmed the article but it looks like there is a lot of leeway given to the individual counties as to how they implement shelter-in-place. Some counties seem to be applying much stricter rules than what Governor Newsom has mandated. Also, some of the parks closed are National parks so I’m assuming the state has no say in those closings.
While I completely agree that getting outside in the fresh air and sun is essential (IMO) in a situation like this, it’s hard to enforce the social distancing in public parks where masses can congregate. Bottom line, they don’t trust people to do the right thing.
This whole thing is unprecedented so we’re learning as we go along. Missteps are going to happen, whether that be overreach or the opposite.
I feel extremely lucky that my job is one that allows me to work remote. Only about 1/3 of jobs in this country allow for that. So as frustrated I get with those wanting to open up in what experts are saying is too soon, I also get the desperation that may be driving that. I have zero sympathy for those who only want to open up for political purposes, but I understand those who are driven by desperation.
Add for City of Poway -- after closing the Blue Sky, Lake Poway, and Iron Mountain trailhead parking lots --
And although we’ve closed the regional destination trails, here’s a little context. The combined mileage of all the trails in the Blue Sky Ecological Reserve, Lake Poway Recreation Area and Iron Mountain Wilderness Area equal about one third of the city’s total trails. That leaves close to 50 miles of hiking trails in the City of Poway for residents to enjoy. These mostly encompass neighborhood trails and paths that still allow people to get outdoors and connect with nature. They may not scale to great heights, but they create an opportunity to find a new adventure close to home.
Starting from our old house, my favorite hikes were up to Thumb Rock and the back way up Twin Peaks -- those are still open. From our current residence, the closest connection to the Poway trail system is about three blocks away., and I can go further on the open parts of those trails than I would want to do in a single day.
I call bullshit.
Way more people have already been exposed than you are willing to admit, and the virus is so contagious you can only hide in your mom's basement for so long before it finds you.
Its not a justification to destroy the lives of millions by shutting down their businesses and places of employment through fear and hysteria.
Try walking through the campgrounds along the beach, or try getting near the sand, you smarmy old prick.
OMG...until his last 2 words, Ricky actually made a sensible argument! Hooray Ricky, much better! Worthy of legitimate debate. Now go back and delete the last two words and, dadgummit young'un, you've got yourself your very first cogent post.
Funny how easily you people are so willing to lay down and suckle "expert opinions" at the command of your governing overlords.
And you have been right so many times before!
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How would we know with limited testing?
I asked you which hiking trails were closed. So far you haven't named any.
I had to look up "smarmy". Would you care to explain your meaning in this context?
And you have been right at least once.
Congrats, lets keep it going.