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I figured that was why he left.
Some data on Covid-19 and why we're not over reacting...
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Torrey pines.
There's one, if you need more, check the county website.
Those words remind me of a true socialist revolutionary.
The fact of the matter is that you cannot hide from this virus by shutting down the country with some kind of totalitarian destruction of the private economy.
It will and has spread easliy and readily through the population already.
Why destroy so many people's lives with forced economic collapse?
It will and has spread easliy and readily through the population already.
Why destroy so many people's lives with forced economic collapse?
How does calling out a socialist authoritarian dictate against a free people sound?
Maybe this?
RESULTS: A total of 368 patients were evaluated (HC, n=97; HC+AZ, n=113; no HC, n=158). Rates of death in the HC, HC+AZ, and no HC groups were 27.8%, 22.1%, 11.4%, respectively. Rates of ventilation in the HC, HC+AZ, and no HC groups were 13.3%, 6.9%, 14.1%, respectively. Compared to the no HC group, the risk of death from any cause was higher in the HC group (adjusted hazard ratio, 2.61; 95% CI, 1.10 to 6.17; P=0.03) but not in the HC+AZ group (adjusted hazard ratio, 1.14; 95% CI, 0.56 to 2.32; P=0.72). The risk of ventilation was similar in the HC group (adjusted hazard ratio, 1.43; 95% CI, 0.53 to 3.79; P=0.48) and in the HC+AZ group (adjusted hazard ratio, 0.43; 95% CI, 0.16 to 1.12; P=0.09), compared to the no HC group. CONCLUSIONS: In this study, we found no evidence that use of hydroxychloroquine, either with or without azithromycin, reduced the risk of mechanical ventilation in patients hospitalized with Covid-19. An association of increased overall mortality was identified in patients treated with hydroxychloroquine alone. These findings highlight the importance of awaiting the results of ongoing prospective, randomized, controlled studies before widespread adoption of these drugs.
Outcomes of hydroxychloroquine usage in United States veterans hospitalized with Covid-19
BACKGROUND Despite limited and conflicting data on the use of hydroxychloroquine in patients with Covid-19, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has authorized the emergency use of this drug when clinical trials are unavailable or infeasible. Hydroxychloroquine, alone or in combination with...
www.medrxiv.org
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Why is it the doomsday preppers are the first to whine? The freeze dried stew ain't that good?
This article is a preprint and has not been certified by peer review [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.Maybe this?
RESULTS: A total of 368 patients were evaluated (HC, n=97; HC+AZ, n=113; no HC, n=158). Rates of death in the HC, HC+AZ, and no HC groups were 27.8%, 22.1%, 11.4%, respectively. Rates of ventilation in the HC, HC+AZ, and no HC groups were 13.3%, 6.9%, 14.1%, respectively. Compared to the no HC group, the risk of death from any cause was higher in the HC group (adjusted hazard ratio, 2.61; 95% CI, 1.10 to 6.17; P=0.03) but not in the HC+AZ group (adjusted hazard ratio, 1.14; 95% CI, 0.56 to 2.32; P=0.72). The risk of ventilation was similar in the HC group (adjusted hazard ratio, 1.43; 95% CI, 0.53 to 3.79; P=0.48) and in the HC+AZ group (adjusted hazard ratio, 0.43; 95% CI, 0.16 to 1.12; P=0.09), compared to the no HC group. CONCLUSIONS: In this study, we found no evidence that use of hydroxychloroquine, either with or without azithromycin, reduced the risk of mechanical ventilation in patients hospitalized with Covid-19. An association of increased overall mortality was identified in patients treated with hydroxychloroquine alone. These findings highlight the importance of awaiting the results of ongoing prospective, randomized, controlled studies before widespread adoption of these drugs.
Outcomes of hydroxychloroquine usage in United States veterans hospitalized with Covid-19
BACKGROUND Despite limited and conflicting data on the use of hydroxychloroquine in patients with Covid-19, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has authorized the emergency use of this drug when clinical trials are unavailable or infeasible. Hydroxychloroquine, alone or in combination with...
Coronavirus survivor, once bedridden, unable to walk, tells people to stop 'complaining' over extended stay-at-home order
A COVID-19 survivor from Wisconsin is sharing her message for anyone complaining about the extension of that state's stay-at-home order.
abc7news.com
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Do you mean trump? It's his recommendations that are being followed?
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It means it's still early. Trends have been established but the research has yet to be cross referenced.
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15 times Trump praised China as coronavirus was spreading across the globe
The president has lambasted the WHO for accepting Beijing’s assurances about the outbreak, but he repeated them, as well.
www.politico.com
Watch what happens after another month of lockdown.Coronavirus survivor, once bedridden, unable to walk, tells people to stop 'complaining' over extended stay-at-home order
A COVID-19 survivor from Wisconsin is sharing her message for anyone complaining about the extension of that state's stay-at-home order.
When people start getting really desperate, this story, as sad as it may be, will be long forgotten when the real misery hits.
My next door neighbor's brother was on his death bed with type 2 diabetes and corona virus.
On a ventilator, and thought to be a goner.
They administered hydroxichloraquine+z-Pack and in 18 hours he was walking out of the hospital.
You fucking dimwits in your zeal to watch the entire country come apart, have no vision, or possibly lack the capacity to see what's coming.
Michigan Democratic State Representative Karen Whitsett told Fox News host Laura Ingraham on Monday that the controversial drug hydroxychloroquine stopped her coronavirus symptoms "within a couple hours."
Whitsett represents parts of Detroit, a city that has been labeled a coronavirus "hot spot." Recent data indicated 5,032 positive cases in Detroit with 196 deaths attributable to the virus reported in the city.
www.newsweek.com
Here are some of the infected patients who have credited the medication for the improvement in their condition.
Rio Giardinieri, who is the vice-president of a company that manufactures cooking equipment for high-end restaurants in Los Angeles, said his doctors administered the drug as a last hope for his recovery.
The 52-year-old believes he contracted the virus during a conference in New York and immediately fell ill with a fever for five days, back pain, headaches, a cough and fatigue.
'I was at the point where I was barely able to speak, and breathing was very challenging,' he told Fox 6.
He went to Joe DiMaggio Hospital in South Florida, where doctors diagnosed him with pneumonia and coronavirus.
Giardinieri explained that he was placed on oxygen but he was still unable to breath.
After a week, doctors told him there was nothing else they could do and on Friday evening he said goodbye to his wife and three children.
'I really thought my end was there. I had been through nine days of solid pain and for me, the end was there, so I made some calls to say, in my own way, goodbye to my friends and family,' he told the news site.
Giardinieri said a friend then told him about the anti-malaria drug. He immediately asked a doctor to administer the medication.
He then explained what came next, including the moment when he felt like his heart was beating out of his chest.
'They had to come in, and get me calmed down, and take care of me,' Giardinieri said.
But then the next morning he says he 'woke up like nothing ever happened' and feeling much better.
The doctors said they don't believe Giardinieri's episode was a reaction to the anti-malaria drug but instead was likely the virus progressing in his body.
'To me, the drug saved my life,' Giardinieri said.
Meanwhile Margaret Novins in New Jersey, where there are more than 2,800 confirmed coronavirus cases and 27 deaths, Novins had a very similar experience.
She told Forbes that she began feeling ill on March 8 and by March 15 she 'couldn't breathe'.
Novins said she was initially diagnosed with pneumonia before getting more test results back on March 19 that showed she was positive for coronavirus.
The 53-year-old said her doctors categorized her as 'critical' and she was given the hydroxychloroquine drug. When she woke up on Saturday her fever was gone, which is 'fantastic', she said.
Novins told the news site that her doctor 'insisted the pharmacy get it to me the minute we got the positive'.
'It seemed like their go-to right away.'
In North Carolina, Jeff Hensley, 57, was hospitalized over the weekend with labored breathing after he tested positive for COVID-19
The Harnett County man started feeling sick on March 4 while working in Hawaii.
According to The News & Observer, Hensley had asked to be tested for the virus three times after returning to North Carolina on March 7.
His wife told the news site that her husband was finally admitted and 'is on oxygen'.
She said doctors are currently treating him with the anti-malaria drug.
Though the drug is not FDA approved his wife says she's glad he's being treated with it.
Entire article https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...nti-malaria-drug-helped-recover-COVID-19.html
Whitsett represents parts of Detroit, a city that has been labeled a coronavirus "hot spot." Recent data indicated 5,032 positive cases in Detroit with 196 deaths attributable to the virus reported in the city.
Dem Lawmaker Says Trump Saved Her Life by Recommending Hydroxychloroquine
"If President Trump had not talked about this, it would not be something that's accessible for anyone to get, not right now," Whitsett said.
www.newsweek.com
Here are some of the infected patients who have credited the medication for the improvement in their condition.
Rio Giardinieri, who is the vice-president of a company that manufactures cooking equipment for high-end restaurants in Los Angeles, said his doctors administered the drug as a last hope for his recovery.
The 52-year-old believes he contracted the virus during a conference in New York and immediately fell ill with a fever for five days, back pain, headaches, a cough and fatigue.
'I was at the point where I was barely able to speak, and breathing was very challenging,' he told Fox 6.
He went to Joe DiMaggio Hospital in South Florida, where doctors diagnosed him with pneumonia and coronavirus.
Giardinieri explained that he was placed on oxygen but he was still unable to breath.
After a week, doctors told him there was nothing else they could do and on Friday evening he said goodbye to his wife and three children.
'I really thought my end was there. I had been through nine days of solid pain and for me, the end was there, so I made some calls to say, in my own way, goodbye to my friends and family,' he told the news site.
Giardinieri said a friend then told him about the anti-malaria drug. He immediately asked a doctor to administer the medication.
He then explained what came next, including the moment when he felt like his heart was beating out of his chest.
'They had to come in, and get me calmed down, and take care of me,' Giardinieri said.
But then the next morning he says he 'woke up like nothing ever happened' and feeling much better.
The doctors said they don't believe Giardinieri's episode was a reaction to the anti-malaria drug but instead was likely the virus progressing in his body.
'To me, the drug saved my life,' Giardinieri said.
Meanwhile Margaret Novins in New Jersey, where there are more than 2,800 confirmed coronavirus cases and 27 deaths, Novins had a very similar experience.
She told Forbes that she began feeling ill on March 8 and by March 15 she 'couldn't breathe'.
Novins said she was initially diagnosed with pneumonia before getting more test results back on March 19 that showed she was positive for coronavirus.
The 53-year-old said her doctors categorized her as 'critical' and she was given the hydroxychloroquine drug. When she woke up on Saturday her fever was gone, which is 'fantastic', she said.
Novins told the news site that her doctor 'insisted the pharmacy get it to me the minute we got the positive'.
'It seemed like their go-to right away.'
In North Carolina, Jeff Hensley, 57, was hospitalized over the weekend with labored breathing after he tested positive for COVID-19
The Harnett County man started feeling sick on March 4 while working in Hawaii.
According to The News & Observer, Hensley had asked to be tested for the virus three times after returning to North Carolina on March 7.
His wife told the news site that her husband was finally admitted and 'is on oxygen'.
She said doctors are currently treating him with the anti-malaria drug.
Though the drug is not FDA approved his wife says she's glad he's being treated with it.
Entire article https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...nti-malaria-drug-helped-recover-COVID-19.html
My co-worker who is very young but has high blood pressure had a similar positive response to chloroquine. But another friend of mine who had no pre-existing conditions and is a long distance runner as well didn’t experience any benefit from hydro I chloroquine. In fact it made her very ill with nausea and vomiting so they had to stop. Both were in ICU at the same hospital chain, one in SF and one in San Jose. So I think the verdict on hydroXiamen chloroquine is still very much undecided.
Remdesivir is looking promising. If this can be used prophylactically even better
And this is why rational conversation is impossible. No one on this site, on either “side”, have a zeal to watch the entire country fall apart. No one.
What did they get wrong?
The only whining is coming from you, ya dimwitted fool.
You've been throwing a tantrum since Nov. 2016...ya fuckin' poodle dick.
It sounds a lot like "workers of the world unite - you have nothing to lose but your chains"