Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

whatithink said:
So this is direct competition with the MLS & GAL offerings? There's a prerequisite that the teams have be in a USYS conference, which the MLS or GAL teams don't currently. You also have to "earn the right" to play in the National Showcase Series.

The conferences, currently, don't align with the MLS/GAL regions either.

I think maybe its USYS looking to grab some top teams back, but not sure the DA clubs would be happy with all their teams having to qualify etc. USYS's National League has always been merit based unlike the closed leagues on a team by team basis. I can't see them giving a pass to every year group for clubs based on a badge they had, rather than on those individual teams having to earn the right.

PS. Sounds like the worse solution for DA clubs, if they dominate, what's the point; if they don't what have they been selling - I expect they wouldn't dominate, I expect they know this and I expect they would never take the risk that parents will see this.
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To be honest we have to see their actual specifics they say is coming out in 2-3 weeks supposedly.

At first blush it appears to be an effort however to unify the soccer leagues which would be a good thing.
 
Technician72 said:
Wow, just wow. Against my own better judgement:

"The club your at also benefited with that list. Just admit that tech."
Sure, my kids aren't on the list, but if I gather correctly what you're saying, Legends benefited from being DA and has / had girls on the list because of that. No arguments there, I think most people can see that it gave them and others the spotlight to make the list, but that doesn't guarantee anything, still have to show up and prove you're a unicorn.

"Why bring up Kicker and all that with "The List?""
This was intentional to bring up that Kickers kid is on the list because of merit, and I'm highlighting how she is a player above most of the players at her position and a vote of confidence to him and his family for choosing to stay on the route they're on and bank on their kid's ability and proven track record, regardless of what platform she gets spotlighted on. Not a decision made lightly by his family but I would like to see his kid succeed, because I know their family and they're good people.

"Please, don;t say you know very little about my dd"
I know your DD as a player only, I know you only in passing from our brief time sharing the sidelines of Goats FC. You were, in my opinion, a much more mellow individual when our paths crossed in the past. Am I supposed to say that I know everything about your kid and satisfy some sort of ego checkbox for you?

Again you're barking up the wrong tree, but to each his own and feel free to continue.
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Type "one-trick pony" into Google and get back to me. It's a common phrase used all over. 1980 movie with with Paul Simon too so it isn't new by any means. EJ go take a walk down at Laguna and clear your head. Put a copy of the Constitution and Bill of Rights in your back pocket in case you need a permission slip.
 
whatithink said:
Yes, but those DPL teams had to earn that right to play in national league, along with everyone else, and obviously not every DPL team in a club was play NL as they hadn't earned it. If someone now gets a pass because they are in "exDA" club, wouldn't that degrade the status of the league, never mind potentially the quality.
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The way I read this is the current National League stays the same so those who earned it will not get shut out. The word "additionally" is thrown out a lot, so I think this is in addition to the other platforms. Sounds like they could all play each other at some point as well. The more I read it I think its just a Far West type addition for the DA teams with what could amount to only 6-8 games, and a playoff if your on top. Could settle a true US champ. minus ECNL of course.
 
Sparky9 said:
Type "one-trick pony" into Google and get back to me. It's a common phrase used all over. 1980 with with Paul Simon too. EJ go take a walk down at Laguna and clear your head. Put a copy of the Constitution and Bill of Rights in your back pocket in case you need a permission slip.
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Not gonna happen. Sparky you know me more than anyone on here probably, so throw that idea out the window. I tried and spies everywhere. Spies and spies. I even have a guy on here who only has nieces playing soccer and he goes off on me and Maps. The I got some EOTL coach guy who has no kids but lights us up all day. This is crazy sh*t bro. You and I have had some great talks so you really need to know I'm going somewhere with all this. I do have a plan Stan. Come on Sparkly, dont let me down too bro.....
 
Sparky9 said:
Type "one-trick pony" into Google and get back to me. It's a common phrase used all over. 1980 movie with with Paul Simon too so it isn't new by any means. EJ go take a walk down at Laguna and clear your head. Put a copy of the Constitution and Bill of Rights in your back pocket in case you need a permission slip.
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What does it mean to be a one trick pony?
One-trick pony. ... A one-trick pony is someone or something that only has one talent or trick they are capable of performing. The idiom one-trick pony is usually said derisively, implying that the person or thing in question has little to offer. Someone who is a one-trick pony is not considered well-rounded.
Makes one feel even better. It is all clear now. Thanks for the help Sparky :)
 
Ellejustus said:
Not gonna happen. Sparky you know me more than anyone on here probably, so throw that idea out the window. I tried and spies everywhere. Spies and spies. I even have a guy on here who only has nieces playing soccer and he goes off on me and Maps. The I got some EOTL coach guy who has no kids but lights us up all day. This is crazy sh*t bro. You and I have had some great talks so you really need to know I'm going somewhere with all this. I do have a plan Stan. Come on Sparkly, dont let me down too bro.....
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I am surprised you are fighting with Tech. It's like you were throwing punches at other people and hit him in the mouth on accident then decided you might as well throw a few more because he is looking at you funny.

I may be done here shortly. Sparky17 was having a tough time playing HS volleyball, club soccer, and club volleyball and keeping up with homework this year. She wanted to finish the season out and play this summer tournaments and be done then. Her coach is a great guy so I am sure she can always guest with her team when they need a player and at their age group we usually have 2-3 players injured at any given time.
 
Ellejustus said:
What does it mean to be a one trick pony?
One-trick pony. ... A one-trick pony is someone or something that only has one talent or trick they are capable of performing. The idiom one-trick pony is usually said derisively, implying that the person or thing in question has little to offer. Someone who is a one-trick pony is not considered well-rounded.
Makes one feel even better. It is all clear now. Thanks for the help Sparky :)
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If you type something into google and it pops up 5 letters in you know it is not unique. I guess it is better than a no-trick pony.
 
Desert Hound said:
To be honest we have to see their actual specifics they say is coming out in 2-3 weeks supposedly.

At first blush it appears to be an effort however to unify the soccer leagues which would be a good thing.
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USYS are making their pitch I guess to fill a void and be the competitor to ECNL. We'll see, as you say, but I can't see the GAL clubs going for it - meritocracy is not a selling point for them.

azsnowrider said:
The way I read this is the current National League stays the same so those who earned it will not get shut out. The word "additionally" is thrown out a lot, so I think this is in addition to the other platforms. Sounds like they could all play each other at some point as well. The more I read it I think its just a Far West type addition for the DA teams with what could amount to only 6-8 games, and a playoff if your on top. Could settle a true US champ. minus ECNL of course.
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A separate league where certain clubs get to play in and get a chance at by passing state league/cup, that they may not win, seems to run counter to the state orgs that are all members of USYS. I would think that they (states) wouldn't be happy with that. I'll throw in lack of meritocracy again ...
 
Sparky9 said:
I am surprised you are fighting with Tech. It's like you were throwing punches at other people and hit him in the mouth on accident then decided you might as well throw a few more because he is looking at you funny.

I may be done here shortly. Sparky17 was having a tough time playing HS volleyball, club soccer, and club volleyball and keeping up with homework this year. She wanted to finish the season out and play this summer tournaments and be done then. Her coach is a great guy so I am sure she can always guest with her team when they need a player and at their age group we usually have 2-3 players injured at any given time.
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Im not fighting with Tech. You dont get it and I get that. Different takes on The List. No punches. Just some of things he says is hard to take but I will just go back to new wave dave and be chill and cool and one happy puppy. I'm so happy everyone from the Goats FC have all found good coaches and all is well.
 
EOTL said:
You will find peace only after you stop blaming others for where you are and recognize that you cannot control other people. Soccer clubs, leagues, and coaches have always, will aways, and should always make decisions they believe best serve their own interests. Expecting anyone to act in a way that is best for you but not them only leads to constant disappointment and inevitable failure.

You are a consumer. That is your role. You can buy Coke (Blues) or Pepsi (Slammers), or a cheaper brand like RC that isn’t quite as good (Beach), or go with the least expensive house brand that tastes like crap but is good enough if you’re a cheap bastard and don’t have high expectations for quality (AYSO). Or you can buy a Sprite (youth softball). Why do you waste time in the soda aisle day dreaming that Coke will change its prices or RC will change its formula and, even more ludicrous, that someday all cola brands will just get together and become equally good and also free? Why do you whine to all the other shoppers who pass by that cola companies should do all these crazy things you want because, well, it’s what’s best for the kids?
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To continue your analogy, if either Coke or Pepsi sent people to the hospital at same rate as Blues, the FDA would shut them down in a minute.

How many ACL tears at Blues last year? Still not saying, I assume?
 
Ellejustus said:
Not gonna happen. Sparky you know me more than anyone on here probably, so throw that idea out the window. I tried and spies everywhere. Spies and spies. I even have a guy on here who only has nieces playing soccer and he goes off on me and Maps. The I got some EOTL coach guy who has no kids but lights us up all day. This is crazy sh*t bro. You and I have had some great talks so you really need to know I'm going somewhere with all this. I do have a plan Stan. Come on Sparkly, dont let me down too bro.....
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Yes, your obvious plan is to bring down this entire site with nonsense in retribution for all of the ways that the youth soccer juggernaut has ruined your life.
 
Sparky9 said:
If you type something into google and it pops up 5 letters in you know it is not unique. I guess it is better than a no-trick pony.
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Thank you for the kind words friend. Make sure you keep the Bill of rights too in your back pocket. More news is coming brah and I wish it were good but I'm afraid it's not. Man, these guys have done a number on some people. Its sick actually Sparky and when you find out you will probably have a few tears. I know you. Sorry to be so raw with you but things you just have no clue about.
 
The heat is on for some folks and this will all get better some day. I had no idea how toxic this all was. I love this forum. I really do and I would never bring this site down. This site has allowed for free and open dialogue. I want to bring more folks to the site. It's growing and that is a good thing. I only want to bring down bad coaches who have manipulated parents and little girls for too long.
 
Ellejustus said:
Not gonna happen. Sparky you know me more than anyone on here probably, so throw that idea out the window. I tried and spies everywhere. Spies and spies. I even have a guy on here who only has nieces playing soccer and he goes off on me and Maps. The I got some EOTL coach guy who has no kids but lights us up all day. This is crazy sh*t bro. You and I have had some great talks so you really need to know I'm going somewhere with all this. I do have a plan Stan. Come on Sparkly, dont let me down too bro.....
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Listen you came on here playing the victim despite you using the system as well to get a free ride and join a team that was already on its way to the top, probably bumming players that helped make that team what it was. So you cannot play the victim. thought you learned that lesson and started to act rationally. But here you are now gloating when kiddos are getting screwed over. You have not learned anything so i just gave you a quick reality check.

As for Map, he is a d'bag. On the old forum he threatened people with violence and has a rap sheet to prove that he will get violent, even at his dd's 6th grade graduation. You can google it. He also has no problem calling kiddos out by name and being demeaning towards minors. Most of the parents on UCLA team hate the guy and wish he did not show up to games for a reason, he makes them look bad and unfortunately for that team there is another parent ready to take his spot as was apparent at Stanford.

I am a big part of my nieces lives and love them like my our kiddos. I also spend a great deal of time with them at soccer, help coach soccer and ref soccer. So f' off.
 
dreamz said:
Folks putting their DD's into GAL need to know it will be sanctioned by USSSA which basically means no State Cup, no National Cup, no anything. They will play in a league. Throw in a showcase that won't be attended and won't expose their players to any real competition out of fear that the parents and players will realize they are paying a lot of money for nothing. DPL was going to switch to USSSA sanctioning next year and hadn't figured out how to tell the parents there was no carrot so be prepared. If you are ok paying a lot of money for local games and a showcase somewhere with no ability to play any real national competition then GAL may just be for you.

Parents need to be aware too that college coaches will be cutting WAY WAY back on recruiting travel this year. College coaches will go where they can get the most bang for their travel buck. That's going to be ECNL events and a few major showcases nationally. A GAL showcase isn't going to be on anyone's recruiting list as it's unproven and won't showcase the best talent pools. Just another thing to consider with GAL.
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Dpl teams this year sanctioned by usssa played in CRL and were going to play in national cup before it got cancelled as well as Vegas surf Silverlakes
 
dad4 said:
To continue your analogy, if either Coke or Pepsi sent people to the hospital at same rate as Blues, the FDA would shut them down in a minute.

How many ACL tears at Blues last year? Still not saying, I assume?
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Every day you do this is another day @Simisoccerfan would prefer that you didn’t.
 
Fact said:
Listen you came on here playing the victim despite you using the system as well to get a free ride and join a team that was already on its way to the top, probably bumming players that helped make that team what it was. So you cannot play the victim. thought you learned that lesson and started to act rationally. But here you are now gloating when kiddos are getting screwed over. You have not learned anything so i just gave you a quick reality check.

As for Map, he is a d'bag. On the old forum he threatened people with violence and has a rap sheet to prove that he will get violent, even at his dd's I have6th grade graduation. You can google it. He also has no problem calling kiddos out by name and being demeaning towards minors. Most of the parents on UCLA team hate the guy and wish he did not show up to games for a reason, he makes them look bad and unfortunately for that team there is another parent ready to take his spot as was apparent at Stanford.

I am a big part of my nieces lives and love them like my our kiddos. I also spend a great deal of time with them at soccer, help coach soccer and ref soccer. So f' off.
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Map was and is the most honest one here except for a few others I know. You sound like these fake fb friends that I had. One guy got mad at me because his online comebacks fell short so he to the all "Ya, but you did this when you were 16, you sinner!!! In front of my wife, her mom, my friends from church. It was sad, just like your doing to Maps. Leave him alone please. I was a minor too and my dear friend had to go low like you.
 
cerebro de fútbol said:
I love it when I thread gets highjacked by a couple of passive aggressive jerks. Get a life. At the end of the day it’s about our kids playing soccer —NOT YOUR EGOS.
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I agree and way to help me sir. I have no life right now. Tell you what and I'll tell you all one last time. Soccer needs help just like our country and just like you and me. I'm sorry for caring so much about the girls health and I got my ego in the way and started taking over again. I will go away and figure out the next move. I'll leave you with Fact and EOTL. I understand why everyone does soccer and I accept it. I hope for better days for all soon.
 
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