Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

Soccerfan2 said:
I thought somebody posted on here yesterday a letter to FC dallas club members announcing that they got in?
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The portion of the email I posted was this...

"The US Soccer Federation has just informed FC Dallas that they will cease operating the Development Academy for both boys and girls.

While we are disappointed at the news, FC Dallas has taken the proactive steps to return to the ECNL. Based on our club history and track record we are looking forward to return."

Appears that they are looking to apply for ECNL. Doesn't appear to be a lock at this point.
 
whatithink said:
I've always thought that elite girls soccer in the US is not "selling" soccer development, its selling college placement. That's the product and what parents are chasing. Soccer development, per se, isn't expensive. The best, most intelligent, most skillful players don't come from backgrounds where anyone invested vast sums in them before they were discovered. Most, if not all, the best players are not that way due to coaches. Coaches can nurture it, but they can't and don't create it for the best. Coaches can make players better, never great IMO.

Clubs of elite girls teams sell access to college coaches through the platform, their reputation and their (& their coaches) contacts. They charge a lot for that, and can get it because people are prepared to pay it - market forces obviously.

For parents to play, they need to get their DD placed on an elite team, and then have the $ resources to support that for club fees, team fees, travel expenses and probably privates. Their goal is a club and coach with a reputation to maximize the college placement.

There are obviously rare exceptions who may get scholarships.

The barrier to entry is $ (for parents) - kids being equal. US soccer wanted to change that with GDA, but they are idiots and are focused on the exceptions and not the product everyone else is buying, i.e. soccer development vs college placement. That barrier eliminates many talented and undoubtedly in many cases, more talented kids.

It is what it is. Maybe the MLS will do a better job because they are businesses investing in themselves directly (don't have to buy players) or by selling (DA) players to fund their DA. They won't do that for NWSL as there's no $ in it.

ECNL has proven their ability to deliver their product. The cost is the cost, tough shit if you can't pay it.
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I like your comment because it illustrates my point that there’s not much difference from club soccer than the rich kids parents that just got caught cheating in the admissions scandal.

Theses kids aren’t getting into elite universities because of exceptional academic or athletic abilities. Nope it appears we are letting average kids into elite schools because their parents can afford to pay exceptional fees. Fucking pathetic!
 
DPLLove said:
Completely agree with you regarding the Blue Bloods. I think we can agree that the next level of players falls in two categories. The next 8-0% that are truly a cut above but not blue bloods and then the next 8-10% that make it due to very annoying reasons, Coach connections,, parents have a lot of money, and definitely my favorite, Coach’s assessments of a players ability. Which as we all know is very subjective. And that’s my point. You have a sold population of players that aren’t really all that much better, that are playing ECNL, that really are not all that-better from a talented DPL Player or Discovery player, that for some reason wasn’t seen or didn’t try out and or did try out and in that ONE Coaches opinion was not talented enough. It’s truly because for whatever reason the ONE coach made a subjective opinion on who they thought was worthy of the spot. That’s why I was thrilled for all of the NEXT Level Of player when the DA came along and opened more doors and opportunity for those non ECNL clubs and some very good players in the SouthWest. As we all know It was very difficult to get exposure unless you were DA or ECNL Player this past few years. It’s hard to be seen now. Personally I hate closed leagues and I long for the old days of Coast Soccer League where a club like Mission Viejo Soccer Club had a chance to compete and play against the best in the Premier Dividion of CSL Truly because of hard work and determination and a little luck they were able to form a competitive team. It wasn’t dictated by someone’s opinion of who was an Elite Club and who was not an Elite Club. It was truly the best teams in that age bracket playing one another. Most premier players back in the day all had very good offers to play at High Level D1. It was truly the best of the best. Then the politics and money really started to drive the games and clubs. The lines are blurred and it’s Youth Soccer that pays the price. The biggest point I’d like to make is that the number of Next Level Player other than the Unicorns and Blue Bloods will be a matter of debate for years to come. I welcome another opportunity here in the SW for the Non ECNL clubs to compete in and Showcase their players. As it is my opinion that there is many more that the 220 or so players (not the unicorns) in each age group that deserve a look.
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I agree with most of what you said. I will say that back in the old CSL Premier days whichever team was going to get relegated to Gold would always lose their best players either to other Premier teams that didn't get relegated or they would migrate to the Gold team that got promoted and displaced some of their bottom players. Unfortunately you can't legislate what people are going to do with their kids.

Good luck to you and your player.
 
www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com

CHARLOTTE SOCCER ACADEMY JOIN ECNLS GIRLS FOR 2020-21 SEASON

RICHMOND, VA (April 17, 2020) – The Elite Clubs National League Girls is excited to announce that Charlotte Soccer Academy will be joining the ECNL Girls in 2020-2021. The addition of Charlotte adds more competitive strength into the Mid-Atlantic Conference, and welcomes back a former club...
www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com

One more in North Carolina accepted
 
MacDre said:
I enrolled my kid in an International school in TJ for kindergarten. She was classmates with Edgar Carillo’s son and the kids of both Pellerano brothers. Many other Xolo’s players kids also go to her school but were in other classes. My kids kindergarten year the Xolo’s won the championship and she was hooked.
She enrolled in the Xolo’s youth program and played on boys teams until she was placed on the U15 Fuerzas Basicas squad. Xolo’s is a first division professional team so the level of play is excellent. Also, our second division team Dorados is decent too.
When my kid started playing I met Ryan Walker Hartshorn on a plane ride back to TJ and the talk I had with her and her mom greatly influenced what I did with my daughter.

I knew Ryan played for Mustang so, I enrolled my kid in a John Doyle camp to do some recon. While at the camp I saw the SJ earthquakes boys team practicing. I spoke with Fred Wilson and Pat Uriz; both good dudes.

My assessment was the soccer at Mustang was light years behind Xolo’s and if the Xolo’s were to play the quakes at any level from academy to first team I’m pretty sure the quakes will get the brakes beat off of them.

I’ve also let my kid practice with several bay area teams Santa Rosa, Benicia Arsenal, Lamorinda and many more. What I always saw at these so called elite clubs was grossly inadequate. So, she stayed with Xolo’s.

I’ll also say this. Up until recently, I wanted my kid to play college soccer. What changed my mind was when a well respected D1 coach explained how the college game wasn’t gonna be good for my kid and that she should go pro. He went on further to explain how one his star players was only a B/C recruit; she’s now in the NWSL.
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Ryan was my kid's host on her recruiting trip to Stanford. She is an amazing young lady and has an amazing family. Personally, I wouldn't want my kid to be a pro soccer player even though she is one. College worked out great for her and she is well positioned for the ineveitable life after soccer. That and the 400% return I got on what I paid for club soccer was worth it.

Good luck to you and your mission and your player and her unique journey.
 
soccer4us said:
www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com

CHARLOTTE SOCCER ACADEMY JOIN ECNLS GIRLS FOR 2020-21 SEASON

RICHMOND, VA (April 17, 2020) – The Elite Clubs National League Girls is excited to announce that Charlotte Soccer Academy will be joining the ECNL Girls in 2020-2021. The addition of Charlotte adds more competitive strength into the Mid-Atlantic Conference, and welcomes back a former club...
www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com

One more in North Carolina accepted
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That's a quality club. IMO better than NC Courage who made their announcment and move a couple of weeks ago along with UFA.
 
soccer4us said:
www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com

CHARLOTTE SOCCER ACADEMY JOIN ECNLS GIRLS FOR 2020-21 SEASON

RICHMOND, VA (April 17, 2020) – The Elite Clubs National League Girls is excited to announce that Charlotte Soccer Academy will be joining the ECNL Girls in 2020-2021. The addition of Charlotte adds more competitive strength into the Mid-Atlantic Conference, and welcomes back a former club...
www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com

One more in North Carolina accepted
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They were previously in the ECNL.
 
dad4 said:
With the DA/ECNL split, she couldn't do that. No matter which one she joined, she would be driving past good teams on her way to play weak teams.
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It's all being purged as we speak. Maps knows whats up. We all know whats up. The gig is up folks. Caught red handed!!!! Developing world class college students who also play soccer, not world class soccer players only. Their is a difference, at least with the men who play pro.
 
pokergod said:
I'm still fairly surprised that nobody from Legends or Beach DA have commented in this forum regarding what they are hearing from those clubs. I have not asked my friends who have kids in those programs what they are hearing out of respect. I have heard from them that things are bad but just general comments regarding not knowing anything. Interesting that Beach has scrubbed its website of all mention of the DA, when it used to be displayed everywhere, but Legends still has the DA badge prominently displayed.
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Many families are already trying to escape to greener pastures. The end is near.
 
GeekKid said:
Yes. It's the Toyota Center in Frisco which is adjacent to the FC Dallas MLS stadium as well as hotels and shops. Really nice complex
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State of the art. Loved all your fields. Played twice in Texas. Maybe it;s the Defeaters fields I'm thinking of. Hotel and away from big city? Perfect fields :)
 
outside! said:
I would say that qualifying for the World Cup out of the UEFA conference is successful. How do you propose to make soccer more popular in this country? My idea is to make more youth soccer players love the game. They are the future fans. Speaking of the future, there are now many high schools where more boys tryout for soccer than for football. There is a reason soccer is the most popular sport in the world.
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More kids will play if we have success at the highest level. In NFL and NBA, the winner is declared the "world" champion. If you win MLS, you win a league that many considers to be somewhere between English Championship (second tier) and League One (3rd tier) compared to leagues at the highest level. Pretty hard to get excited about that.

Sports need heroes. NBA is now the most popular league in China after Yao Ming had success at the highest level. My kid and I watched every one of Chelsea's matches until Pulisic went down with injury. Ten years of DA, Klinsman, and everything US Soccer were meant to create our own group of soccer heroes. Literally a whole decade wasted.
 
MacDre said:
I enrolled my kid in an International school in TJ for kindergarten. She was classmates with Edgar Carillo’s son and the kids of both Pellerano brothers. Many other Xolo’s players kids also go to her school but were in other classes. My kids kindergarten year the Xolo’s won the championship and she was hooked.
She enrolled in the Xolo’s youth program and played on boys teams until she was placed on the U15 Fuerzas Basicas squad. Xolo’s is a first division professional team so the level of play is excellent. Also, our second division team Dorados is decent too.
When my kid started playing I met Ryan Walker Hartshorn on a plane ride back to TJ and the talk I had with her and her mom greatly influenced what I did with my daughter.

I knew Ryan played for Mustang so, I enrolled my kid in a John Doyle camp to do some recon. While at the camp I saw the SJ earthquakes boys team practicing. I spoke with Fred Wilson and Pat Uriz; both good dudes.

My assessment was the soccer at Mustang was light years behind Xolo’s and if the Xolo’s were to play the quakes at any level from academy to first team I’m pretty sure the quakes will get the brakes beat off of them.

I’ve also let my kid practice with several bay area teams Santa Rosa, Benicia Arsenal, Lamorinda and many more. What I always saw at these so called elite clubs was grossly inadequate. So, she stayed with Xolo’s.

I’ll also say this. Up until recently, I wanted my kid to play college soccer. What changed my mind was when a well respected D1 coach explained how the college game wasn’t gonna be good for my kid and that she should go pro. He went on further to explain how one his star players was only a B/C recruit; she’s now in the NWSL.
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There's a pretty big gap between Santa Rosa, Lamorinda and some others in that larger area in terms of player skill. The bay area has a good number of exceptional players and some exceptional teams (though some of those teams could look a little different here shortly).
 
MakeAPlay said:
Ryan was my kid's host on her recruiting trip to Stanford. She is an amazing young lady and has an amazing family. Personally, I wouldn't want my kid to be a pro soccer player even though she is one. College worked out great for her and she is well positioned for the ineveitable life after soccer. That and the 400% return I got on what I paid for club soccer was worth it.

Good luck to you and your mission and your player and her unique journey.
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I do not want my kid to be a pro soccer player! I’m more proud of her academic achievements. I support my daughter in soccer because it makes her happy. My kid is a very shy introverted nerd. The only time she’s shows any swag is when there’s a soccer ball around. I have just been letting the situation play out but if she were to quit and pursue something academic, I would be very happy.
 
MacDre said:
I do not want my kid to be a pro soccer player! I’m more proud of her academic achievements. I support my daughter in soccer because it makes her happy. My kid is a very shy introverted nerd. The only time she’s shows any swag is when there’s a soccer ball around. I have just been letting the situation play out but if she were to quit and pursue something academic, I would be very happy.
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I would have loved for my dd to be able to play pro and make a few bucks and then have a career in something she loves to do. The reason I would love for her to go pro is because she loves playing soccer. She leads on the field and helps others work hard in the game and her smart friends on the field help her with Math. Now she wants to play in college. Go figure :)
 
MacDre said:
I like your comment because it illustrates my point that there’s not much difference from club soccer than the rich kids parents that just got caught cheating in the admissions scandal.

Theses kids aren’t getting into elite universities because of exceptional academic or athletic abilities. Nope it appears we are letting average kids into elite schools because their parents can afford to pay exceptional fees. Fucking pathetic!
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We're not "letting", that's the soccer game. They have to get good grades too, although there was the scam you mentioned for that.

As to who goes to the elite universities, it's not a meritocracy and never was. Getting in on academic or athletic merit alone is a hard path - doable if you have the brains, ability and application.
 
This song came out right when the GDA started. I remember certain folks trying to make her something she was never going to be. She can;t sit still and look pretty for some asshole :) Treat these girls better is all I can say.......

 
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