Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

futboldad1 said:
GDA AND ECNL 2020 Standings Per Club by PPG
GDA Current Standings (Based on PPG)
AVG StandingsU14U15U16U17U18/U19
San Diego Surf2.421441
Legends417525
LA Galaxy536178
Real So Cal5.2482102
Beach Futbol Club6.6132639
SC Blues6.6649113
Albion SC7.25510511
LA Galaxy San Diego8.210133114
Pateadores9.21212787
SC del Sol9.211312614
LA Surf SC9.49911126
Utah Royals FC - Arizona9.814118133
OC Surf Soccer10.671413910
Albion SC Las Vegas11.6810141412
ECNL Current Standings (Based on PPG)AVG StandingsU13U14U15U16U17U18U18 Comp
LAFC Slammers2.42111228
So Cal Blues SC3.73684311
Slammers FC4.663103163
LA Breakers FC6.35868494
Heat FC6.3144710117
Strikers FC6.6117357310
Arizona Arsenal SC7.1911126642
Phoenix Rising FC7.379221212No team
Rebels SC7.6821110589
Eagles SC7.64105121156
Arsenal FC8.9125999711
DMCV Sharks9.010127118105
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Blues is a BEAST of a club!!!!!
 
Dubs said:
One's expectations and what actually happens are many times miles apart. The DA nor any league is responsble for player development other than providing the platform to play on... that's it. It has always been the club/coaches/players responsiblity. Can you enlighten me on how the DA has played a part in any single player's development other than drawing from the player pool to bring into a YNT camp/competition?
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dad4 said:
This is why ECNL needs to forgive and accept all DA clubs. If they don’t, we get yet another stupid split.
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Maybe it would turn out to be a rational split not a stupid split. Limited travel, playing against local competitive teams, sort of like it was 30 years ago. Cost would probably be about the same in terms of fees. Heck, we could even use a variety of kits :) :), some DA some ECNL some SCDSL in a variety of colors! :) :) Wouldn't that be colorful ! Just kidding. If the goal is to play in college, there is absolutely no reason to travel 5-6 hours or even 3 hours on a plane to play some random team and miss a week of school or even 3-4 days of school for showcases two or three times a year. A new local league could have one showcase in the spring and invite college coaches, wouldn't that be great! College coaches will find the best players for their schools in terms of soccer and academics.
 
EOTL said:
Keep dreaming. Individual teams can make the decisions just as soon they create their own league; pay for the fields, the insurance, and the admin staff needed to coordinate everything; file the tax returns; set up the payroll and pay the coaches and staff; issue the w-2s (or 1099s if you want to take that chance); defend the lawsuits, collect all the dues; run the background checks etc.

I still can’t figure out why people think they deserve a seat at the table without having to do any of the work or take any of the risk. When your daughter’s team is carried by a 12 year old superstar who probably won’t be so great after puberty levels the playing field, that is not merit.
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How many of these clubs that do all these things you mention play on public property, served by public utilities/emergency services and defended by the US Military? Wait, wait, I know the answer, all of them. Ignoring large parts of the population of possible future top players is bad for business also.
 
The U.S. Soccer Federation has decided to shut down the U.S. Soccer Development Academy program for both boys and girls, effective immediately, multiple sources told The Athletic on Tuesday.

Current MLS clubs and academy directors from some of the non-professional clubs that were part of the inaugural Development Academy season in 2007 have already been informed of the decision to shut down the league.

Sources said that U.S. Soccer could announce the shutdown as soon as Wednesday. The federation’s reasons for shutting down the DA, which includes hundreds of boys and girls teams ranging from the under-13 to under-19 age groups, were not immediately clear. Rumors of the change first appeared last Thursday from Glenn Crooks, New York City FC’s radio play-by-play announcer and a contributor to ProSoccerUSA.

The 2019-20 DA season was cut short due to the global COVID-19 outbreak, and the sources confirmed that it will not resume at any point. Under normal circumstances, the 2020-21 season was set to kick off in September.

All 26 current MLS teams, including the league’s three Canadian clubs, participate in the boys’ DA. It’s not clear what will happen to MLS academies now that the DA is no more, though, for a number of years, a segment of MLS teams have pushed to break away from the DA to start their own, MLS-only academy league. The main reason for this was due to their perception that the DA did not offer a strong enough level of competition.

U.S. Soccer founded a girls’ DA in 2017. In recent months, multiple clubs left the girls’ DA to join the Elite Clubs National League, a competing organization founded in 2009 by directors of coaching for multiple clubs across the country, and includes many of the nation’s top clubs. There is also a boys’ branch of the ECNL, though it is far less robust than the girls’ division
 
RedCard said:
With all this guessing on who’s going to ECNL, read this...looks like this new LASC (Some of the Old LA Surf DA/SoCal Academy) is going ECNL sooner than later..


To The Families of Strikers FC ECNL & Los Angeles Soccer Club,

We hope all of you are safe and healthy as you read this. The past few weeks have been incredibly challenging for our families and communities, stressing all aspects of our home, work and school lives. Activities we took for granted in February now seem like distant memories. Whatever your family’s individual situation, we hope that you are well, and being kind to yourself as you manage through this once-in-a-generation event.

While it is impossible to know for certain how long this period will last, when we’ll be able to resume “normal” life, and what that life will look like in the weeks and months ahead, we wanted you to know that we have not stopped looking for ways to improve our organizations, the opportunities for our players and the community at large. The last month has, in fact, been a rare opportunity to focus on how we can make our clubs and our community stronger when we come out of this tremendous period of uncertainty.

It is along these lines that we are proud to announce a working partnership between Los Angeles Soccer Club and Strikers FC ECNL to expand Girls ECNL’s footprint into the San Gabriel Valley. The partnership brings together two incredible organizations each focused on player development and leadership on and off the field, fostering a sense of club citizenship and ownership by our players and families, and creating strong ties to the communities we play in. Both Strikers and LASC will continue to operate under their own identity while working together to bring some of Southern California’s strongest coaching talent under the same roof, creating a bridge between two talented player pools in Los Angeles and Orange County.

As we move through this period of uncertainty, we want all of you to know we will have an even stronger program waiting for the players when they return to the fields. Additional details will follow in the weeks ahead, but for now, continue to be safe, focus on family and know that our community will rebuild stronger than ever before.

Sincerely,

Rob Fisher, Strikers FC ECNL
Matt Bradbury, Los Angeles Soccer Club
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RedCard said:
With all this guessing on who’s going to ECNL, read this...looks like this new LASC (Some of the Old LA Surf DA/SoCal Academy) is going ECNL sooner than later..


To The Families of Strikers FC ECNL & Los Angeles Soccer Club,

We hope all of you are safe and healthy as you read this. The past few weeks have been incredibly challenging for our families and communities, stressing all aspects of our home, work and school lives. Activities we took for granted in February now seem like distant memories. Whatever your family’s individual situation, we hope that you are well, and being kind to yourself as you manage through this once-in-a-generation event.

While it is impossible to know for certain how long this period will last, when we’ll be able to resume “normal” life, and what that life will look like in the weeks and months ahead, we wanted you to know that we have not stopped looking for ways to improve our organizations, the opportunities for our players and the community at large. The last month has, in fact, been a rare opportunity to focus on how we can make our clubs and our community stronger when we come out of this tremendous period of uncertainty.

It is along these lines that we are proud to announce a working partnership between Los Angeles Soccer Club and Strikers FC ECNL to expand Girls ECNL’s footprint into the San Gabriel Valley. The partnership brings together two incredible organizations each focused on player development and leadership on and off the field, fostering a sense of club citizenship and ownership by our players and families, and creating strong ties to the communities we play in. Both Strikers and LASC will continue to operate under their own identity while working together to bring some of Southern California’s strongest coaching talent under the same roof, creating a bridge between two talented player pools in Los Angeles and Orange County.

As we move through this period of uncertainty, we want all of you to know we will have an even stronger program waiting for the players when they return to the fields. Additional details will follow in the weeks ahead, but for now, continue to be safe, focus on family and know that our community will rebuild stronger than ever before.

Sincerely,

Rob Fisher, Strikers FC ECNL
Matt Bradbury, Los Angeles Soccer Club
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That letter says nothing of the sort. Nice reach though. All it says is they will share a player pool (and coaches). Strikers is the ECNL club, but LASC is obviously willing to share their player pool with them.
 
jpeter said:
I dunno I'm no soothsayer but these pie in the sky wild rumors keep coming out of the woodwork.

Until the c19 situation get more under control there are big risks for these organizations and I think they will be very cautious going forward.

Announcements now about +- leagues, teams, clubs seems premature and not in good taste to publicize or promote givin the current situation. There are likely to be some casualties or a shake up but it's anybody's guess.

One thing for sure is airline travel is not going to return to normal in time for fall so travel leagues or what you knew before is gone, done for a while. The recent report I read about the airlines is it will take at least 5 yrs for them recover if they do.
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Totally agree...I browse through these posts no more than once per day and based on most of them I read, there still doesn't seem to be a realization how things are going to be different in the future. I've always been a "glass half full" person but there's optimism and reality. Very smart and objective people are concerned that social distancing could last until there is a vaccine! LA County schools will be closed through summer. Colleges are cancelling all summer camps--not just soccer. Talks are beginning that the college Fall semester may have to begin online as well. No professional sports league will operate this summer with fans in the seats. Univ. of Cincy is the first of potentially many to eliminate their men's soccer program to save money. Labor Day weekend youth soccer tournaments are far from certain (how are clubs going to generate $$?). Not to mention the millions of folks trying to make ends meet with only unemployment checks to pay for basic necessities.

I get that this is a "hot" rumor and we all like to call out US Soccer for their repetitive ineptitude (they deserve it), but whether your son/daughter is going to play in a different soccer league next year is not the most important issue right now...rather, it's will there be any organized soccer to play in the next 6 months to a year? That is truly still up in the air and becoming more of an unlikelihood as each week passes with beaches and parks completely closed. Are you seriously going to give your club more money soon without knowing for sure whether your kid's team is even going to practice this summer, let alone play any games?

Apologies for the splash of cold water, but the depth of this DA rabbit hole is starting to become a blinder to what's still ongoing outside the safety of our Corona-free living rooms.
 
outside! said:
How many of these clubs that do all these things you mention play on public property, served by public utilities/emergency services and defended by the US Military? Wait, wait, I know the answer, all of them. Ignoring large parts of the population of possible future top players is bad for business also.
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It sounds like you have a really good understanding of how things work.
 
sdb said:
Another article, doesn't seem to be from any on the record sources.

www.sandiegouniontribune.com

Youth soccer braces for demise of Development Academy

The DA might be DOA.U.S. Soccer’s Development Academy, billed as a pathway to professional soccer for the nation’s top youth players, appears poised to cancel the remainder of the 2019-…
www.sandiegouniontribune.com www.sandiegouniontribune.com
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Thanks for posting....Massive lawsuits will hit USSF for many reasons, this article just spells out one.....
 
oh canada said:
Totally agree...I browse through these posts no more than once per day and based on most of them I read, there still doesn't seem to be a realization how things are going to be different in the future. I've always been a "glass half full" person but there's optimism and reality. Very smart and objective people are concerned that social distancing could last until there is a vaccine! LA County schools will be closed through summer. Colleges are cancelling all summer camps--not just soccer. Talks are beginning that the college Fall semester may have to begin online as well. No professional sports league will operate this summer with fans in the seats. Univ. of Cincy is the first of potentially many to eliminate their men's soccer program to save money. Labor Day weekend youth soccer tournaments are far from certain (how are clubs going to generate $$?). Not to mention the millions of folks trying to make ends meet with only unemployment checks to pay for basic necessities.

I get that this is a "hot" rumor and we all like to call out US Soccer for their repetitive ineptitude (they deserve it), but whether your son/daughter is going to play in a different soccer league next year is not the most important issue right now...rather, it's will there be any organized soccer to play in the next 6 months to a year? That is truly still up in the air and becoming more of an unlikelihood as each week passes with beaches and parks completely closed. Are you seriously going to give your club more money soon without knowing for sure whether your kid's team is even going to practice this summer, let alone play any games?

Apologies for the splash of cold water, but the depth of this DA rabbit hole is starting to become a blinder to what's still ongoing outside the safety of our Corona-free living rooms.
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With so many colleges dependent on the revenue generated by their football teams to support other sports, what will happen if the college season is scrapped? If the college depends on these funds for soccer, how many soccer programs will be discontinued?
 
Copa9 said:
Several players on dd DA players play other sports, namely track and golf. These players have worked hard for years to work on their soccer skills and have college commitments so why would they take a chance on some unskilled player trying to take them out just to take them out? There are plenty of ways to support your high school through participation in school government and clubs.
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My kid's experience was this. She played other sports (she was actually named Orange County athlete of the year her senior year and is very proud of that). She committed to the school that she just graduated from as a sophomore and played 4 years of varsity high school soccer. Was there a large skill gap on her team? Somewhat. She had 4 other players who went on to play D1 college soccer on her team. She was in student government and in a few clubs. If my daughter can have it all so can yours and others. We never saw anybody try to take her out while playing high school soccer so I am not sure that is an actual thing.. She played ODP and won two ODP National Championships. She just finished college in December after her 4th and final college season and she already graduated last June and has two college cup appearances, an Elite Eight and a Sweet 16 appearance to go along with 92 starts in 92 games played. She is now a professional player in the NWSL and is in the process of studying for the LSAT ( a good use of her quarantine time for sure). She remembers more about her high school team than about her club teams and her college team has created a group of friends for life.

I only went to about a dozen high school games of hers over her 4 year career. I rarely missed a club game and only missed one of her college games. I used to think that high school soccer was a waste of her time. She proved me wrong. Good luck to you and your player.
 
MakeAPlay said:
My kid's experience was this. She played other sports (she was actually named Orange County athlete of the year her senior year and is very proud of that). She committed to the school that she just graduated from as a sophomore and played 4 years of varsity high school soccer. Was there a large skill gap on her team? Somewhat. She had 4 other players who went on to play D1 college soccer on her team. She was in student government and in a few clubs. If my daughter can have it all so can yours and others. We never saw anybody try to take her out while playing high school soccer so I am not sure that is an actual thing.. She played ODP and won two ODP National Championships. She just finished college in December after her 4th and final college season and she already graduated last June and has two college cup appearances, an Elite Eight and a Sweet 16 appearance to go along with 92 starts in 92 games played. She is now a professional player in the NWSL and is in the process of studying for the LSAT ( a good use of her quarantine time for sure). She remembers more about her high school team than about her club teams and her college team has created a group of friends for life.

I only went to about a dozen high school games of hers over her 4 year career. I rarely missed a club game and only missed one of her college games. I used to think that high school soccer was a waste of her time. She proved me wrong. Good luck to you and your player.
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I heard that story before. Thanks again for telling us like it is. I'm glad you let her decide too. Good dad moment for you bro :) One of my greatest sports accomplishments as a dad was was not manipulating her into staying in the GDA and letting her decide as well. I still remember the day she got back from that GDA Showcase in NC, "Dad, I made my decision. I want to play HS Soccer." I told her today she chose wisely and that some tough competition is coming in the near future in both HS Soccer and club. More news should be coming down soon :)
 
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