Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

MakeAPlay said:
Surf will get in. Real So Cal 95% will get in. Beach and Legends are a 75/25 in my opinion. Beach fills a need and is more likely to get some love. Legends is still in Arsenal's way and now that the the script has flipped again it will be interesting to see how that works out. Arsenal remained loyal and will definitely have something to say about whether Legends gets in or not IMHO.
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I would normally agree with this assessment, except participation in the boys ECNL likely swings in favor of Beach and Legends. I would bet 90% for Beach and 80% for Legends (lower only because of the Arsenal input). Surf and RSC are not locks -- depends on how they handled their exit from ECNL. As you said, ECNL rewards loyalty.

I expect most other Socal clubs are going to be left out. Would not be surprised if they add another AZ (Tucson) club.

No more than 5 clubs will be added to SW ECNL if this goes down, my bet would be 4. Just a prediction.
 
dreamz said:
The general info I got is.
ECNL just picked up a whole bunch of DA boys teams
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Copa9 said:
If this comes to pass, I am not sure I will support US soccer or ECNL . I have been a part of ECNL in the past, they really did nothing to develop players. It has always been the players themselves, their trainers and their coaches that develop them.

If you believe the first half of an incomplete season is the determining factor of final placement, either you have never played soccer or any other sport for that matter.
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Why would you ever believe it's a league's job to develop players? It's always the club/coach that is responsible for this. The league is nothing more than a platform.
 
Copa9 said:
I don't know a single player on dd DA team who wants to play high school. I am sure there are areas of the country where the parents and players like the rah rah of high school soccer, good for them. Sort of the big fish in the little pond, stokes their egos for some sort of recognition. If that is what they want, go for it.
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Yeah... DA players are too good for high school ball. I wouldn't be caught dead posting a facebook photo of my kid wearing her school colors.
 
Surf Zombie said:
Using the Soccer Wire top 100, here are the non-ECNL clubs in the top 40.

1. Top Hat (GA)
5. FC Dallas (TX)
6. Surf
8. Legends
9. Beach
10. Earthquakes
16. FC Virginia (VA)
22. Real So Cal
25. NEFC (MA)
26. Sporting Blue Valley (KS)
28. Cincinnati Development Academy (OH)
29. Lone Star (TX)
32.South Shore Select (MA)
35. LA Galaxy
37. Nationals (MI)
39. Charlotte Soccer Academy (NC)

I'm on a long, boring conference call. Anyone want to take a crack at who gets in? Bonus points if you come up with a club from outside of the top 40 who gets admitted.
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West Coast?
 
Realistically I think it would be hard to see a club declining an invite to ECNL (or rejoin) if DA is no more, but I wonder if in So Cal the DA clubs will stick together in a show of solidarity. The clubs left out would surely be selling this.
 
Dubs said:
Why would you ever believe it's a league's job to develop players? It's always the club/coach that is responsible for this. The league is nothing more than a platform.
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When a league declares player development as one of its objectives (and some even put it in the league name) one might expect it to perform that way.
 
The names will change but nothing else will. This will just create an opportunity for someone else to make money selling the soccer dream to parents. I also predict the while travel costs will drop you won’t see club fees decrease. In fact this will likely allow the elite clubs with access to the top level to raise their fees. Unfortunately it is always about the money.
 
MakeAPlay said:
Surf will get in. Real So Cal 95% will get in. Beach and Legends are a 75/25 in my opinion. Beach fills a need and is more likely to get some love. Legends is still in Arsenal's way and now that the the script has flipped again it will be interesting to see how that works out. Arsenal remained loyal and will definitely have something to say about whether Legends gets in or not IMHO.
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The Outlaw said:
Yeah... DA players are too good for high school ball. I wouldn't be caught dead posting a facebook photo of my kid wearing her school colors.
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Several players on dd DA players play other sports, namely track and golf. These players have worked hard for years to work on their soccer skills and have college commitments so why would they take a chance on some unskilled player trying to take them out just to take them out? There are plenty of ways to support your high school through participation in school government and clubs.
 
Copa9 said:
Several players on dd DA players play other sports, namely track and golf. These players have worked hard for years to work on their soccer skills and have college commitments so why would they take a chance on some unskilled player trying to take them out just to take them out? There are plenty of ways to support your high school through participation in school government and clubs.
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Where is the "dumb" button?
 
The Outlaw said:
Yeah... DA players are too good for high school ball. I wouldn't be caught dead posting a facebook photo of my kid wearing her school colors.
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Denial right to the bitter end.

For old times sake, the problem with the GDA Mafia (and USSF) is their delusional belief that what might be best for their kid must be best for everyone else’s. There are about 20 now former DA clubs full of players who definitively prove you wrong that DA kids are too good for HS. In fact, HS soccer was the most important factor that led to GDA’s demise. I am sorry that your daughter goes to a crap school, doesn’t have any friends there, and places an outsized importance on club soccer compared to life overall. If she doesn’t want to play HS soccer, ECNL isn’t making you and never has.
 
espola said:
When a league declares player development as one of its objectives (and some even put it in the league name) one might expect it to perform that way.
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One's expectations and what actually happens are many times miles apart. The DA nor any league is responsble for player development other than providing the platform to play on... that's it. It has always been the club/coaches/players responsiblity. Can you enlighten me on how the DA has played a part in any single player's development other than drawing from the player pool to bring into a YNT camp/competition?
 
If this does go down with DA folding and some existing DA clubs gaining entry or re-entry to ECNL it will be great that those kids will now have a choice to play HS or not if they want to, rather than the choice being made for them. Some kids want to, some don’t. Everyone’s path is their own. TBH I don’t understand the issue with HS Soccer, play if you want or don’t. It’s so polarizing. For example my kid right now wants to just play soccer for her club and other sports for school. Her choice, not mine. She has friends that want to play HS Soccer. Her tune may likely change in the future when she sees her friends having fun and wants to join them, but at least it will be her choice to make.
 
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