Zerodenero
GOLD
Figures....move on pops.
Recruiting Tips for Parents Just Starting the Process
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MakeAPlay
DA
Not everyone has the time like you to have 4 screen names. Those of us not in Arizona have live to attend to sweet chuck.
MakeAPlay
DA
Insecure and bitter? Who keeps liking their own posts and spending the time to log in under multiple screen names and boo my posts? You must have some very serious problems at home. I recommend Cialis.
Lorrenna Bobbitt
BRONZE
Messi - I think your are right. She is insecure AND paranoid. I recommend Haldol.
Zerodenero
GOLD
So....lets bring this ship-show back around to try and be of help to parents of youngers.
Z- A good point you sort of touch on is the high value out of state/region college coaches view SoCal players.
There are hundreds of colleges with women soccer programs across the county. Because most of our kids are playing at/in a concentrated area high level of play - during our recruiting process, many coaches shared sw kids inherently have a high stock value.
Of course, individual soccer accolades of a player place a "premium soccer-stock" value, let's call those players "first round soccer" draft picks.......best of the best, (YNT Pool players, invites, ID2 Ecnl players etc)...... But for the 2nd rounders of soccer (that make up 90% ~ of the college recruiting pool), there are so many great schools available that it's really shortsight if kids/parents do not look outside of the area......don't short your kid w/a glass ceiling.
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A soccer Resume is very useful in sending to a coach and why some recruiting sites (like we used at CaptainU) create that format, but took that format and made it a nice e-mail readable look with links to videos.
We did a sports resume for son too and used it to send to schools.
It gives them focus on what their goal is, as they write something in the summary section. It also lets them see how their experiences help/don't help toward that goal.
This resume building skills transfer nicely to the job/school one they might use as soon as the first year's summer break.
We did a sports resume for son too and used it to send to schools.
It gives them focus on what their goal is, as they write something in the summary section. It also lets them see how their experiences help/don't help toward that goal.
This resume building skills transfer nicely to the job/school one they might use as soon as the first year's summer break.
Zerodenero
GOLD
Its the kind of stories that really over generalize and view from perspective that only financial planner would have.
Given a finite funds, and if parents choses to spend it on A versus B, then naturally, B gets less resources. To make a direct link between saving for retirement vs spending on your kid is one of those kind of comparisons.
Its a different situation for each family. The right answer for one may or may not be the right answer for another. But to isolate sports in this context, it seems to me that, is a stretch.
Its a fact that most Americans don't save enough - mostly due to overextending on a regular basis. Perhaps its for kids sports but its more likely for all the other things.....
Heck, for those who are interested in this thread, the biggest expenses are still ahead of them (including myself) - college tuitions and expenses for our kids....
As a side note, the cost of education for the middle class is really bad. If you are on the lower end, there are more funds available for aide and with good grades there are help, and if you're on the top tier, you simply absorb it so its a bigger issue for the middle class working families.
Looking for some perspective:
My son attended a camp, from that camp a coach requested he attend that colleges camp this coming Sunday as he is interested in seeing more of my son and wants him to see the school campus.
He has a tournament this weekend for his club. It's a small local tourney with zero to no college coaches attending, it's essentially a revenue generator for the club, ages Ulittle to U19.
When I was upfront with his coach on wanting to attend the camp his coach would not support him missing the club tourney.
I feel his coach should be supportive of the college invite vs. fundraiser tourney for club.
Thoughts?
My son attended a camp, from that camp a coach requested he attend that colleges camp this coming Sunday as he is interested in seeing more of my son and wants him to see the school campus.
He has a tournament this weekend for his club. It's a small local tourney with zero to no college coaches attending, it's essentially a revenue generator for the club, ages Ulittle to U19.
When I was upfront with his coach on wanting to attend the camp his coach would not support him missing the club tourney.
I feel his coach should be supportive of the college invite vs. fundraiser tourney for club.
Thoughts?
There is a good chance that the college camp is a revenue generator for the college program.
CaliKlines
Well-Known Member
Have your player call the college coach, explain the dilemma, and ask him about the level of their interest. If your player is interested in the school, express the interest to the coach and see if it is reciprocated.
Azz, I would send him to the ID camp. The college season starts soon and probably is the last chance for any camp for a while.
Frankly any coach that doesn't support his players trying to get into a college team has his priority messed up.
The college camp may turn out to be a fundraiser mostly but you'll have to take that chance, especially if it's a school of interest. At least you'll get to evaluate their interest is real or not.
Unfortunately the club coach maybe pissed for a bit but such is life and what would he do if this was his kid....
Cheers!
Frankly any coach that doesn't support his players trying to get into a college team has his priority messed up.
The college camp may turn out to be a fundraiser mostly but you'll have to take that chance, especially if it's a school of interest. At least you'll get to evaluate their interest is real or not.
Unfortunately the club coach maybe pissed for a bit but such is life and what would he do if this was his kid....
Cheers!
In 2010 (I think) we checked DD into a week long camp at Stanford (no qualification required - just money, and it was reasonable) while we went on and gave our son some attention. They had lots - some 14ish I recall school coaches there. That set a bunch of things in play.
She went to a camp at UVA and I think despite us traveling across country the decision was made before she arrived. Hard to tell. I saw a few girls that were top drawer.
Later she went to a camp WherePlayersPlay at TCU where she got seen and invited to play for one of the coaches the next day.
She went to a camp at UVA and I think despite us traveling across country the decision was made before she arrived. Hard to tell. I saw a few girls that were top drawer.
Later she went to a camp WherePlayersPlay at TCU where she got seen and invited to play for one of the coaches the next day.
As service Academy grad and career military officer, here is what I would say. The Academies (all of them, including Coast Guard), are great institutions (obviously I'm biased). Your child will get a good education and a lot of great experience, discipline, leadership skills, etc. But you need to make sure your child knows that they are going to be cadets/midshipmen first, students second, athletes third. And they need to really want to serve in the military to make it through. As a child all I wanted to do was to be in the military, and I went and wanted to drop out several times. It is tough. If you can't hack the military part of it, they will kick you out. If you can't maintain above a 2.0, they will kick you out. No matter how great an athlete you are. I had friends who were great athletes, recruited football players and track stars, who either quit or were kicked out. There is a whole lot of BS that you have to put up with there, like memorizing the menus for meals, upperclassmen screaming at you for ridiculous things, surprise inspections, restricted liberty, etc.
I hear a lot of parents say, well, (he or she) really wants to play Division 1 soccer, and (he or she) won't mind the military stuff. That's not really how it works there. Some go in with that attitude, but then find that the military is really for them. They are a small minority.
@bilbo28 - Thank you for your continuing service.
I'm learning about what you posted still.
For girls (99.9% of them) - soccer's "usefulness" is in getting into college and helping pay for it. Some guys may have lucrative pro options. Very few girls will be pro and those who are, will make near min wage on average. 1-2 a year will be on the WNT. Yet those that want to play for the joy of the sport have plenty opportunity. So if a parent/kid agrees that playing at the most competitive level of soccer is going to go away in 1-4 years anyway, they may be willing to put it 3rd place for something bigger. Nobody wants anyone in the Service Academies that are not willing to serve their country in the military first, but I think a lot of soccer players meet the profile the Academies are looking for - esp the girls.
This was mine - Yesterday A-Day. A proud moment, not because of his sport. But his sport helped get him there.
I'm learning about what you posted still.
For girls (99.9% of them) - soccer's "usefulness" is in getting into college and helping pay for it. Some guys may have lucrative pro options. Very few girls will be pro and those who are, will make near min wage on average. 1-2 a year will be on the WNT. Yet those that want to play for the joy of the sport have plenty opportunity. So if a parent/kid agrees that playing at the most competitive level of soccer is going to go away in 1-4 years anyway, they may be willing to put it 3rd place for something bigger. Nobody wants anyone in the Service Academies that are not willing to serve their country in the military first, but I think a lot of soccer players meet the profile the Academies are looking for - esp the girls.
This was mine - Yesterday A-Day. A proud moment, not because of his sport. But his sport helped get him there.
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uburoi
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I have a 13-year-old girl who is now showing the skill and desire to take it to the next level and is entering 8th grade. Recently had a big growth spurt and she is a different player than a year ago. I don't think any of us know at this stage where she'll be this time next year. There could be 100 girls at her age group just at her club when she's ready to graduate. How do I know if she has what it takes to be a college player? How will she know?
Summer is almost over. But look into / search for some multi coach camps. The Stanford one was very good. Note that before she takes her 1st 9th grade class she can talk to coaches and visit schools. I think that gets their head in the right place early. Have her try out for the highest level she can do and know on the bench is on the team. Just make sure she thinks she can stay there. Name brand clubs help.
Sure there are many example of great girls that came from nowhere, but most college coaches are lazy and if you have the names to give them - that helps. Note to those that disagree - I said it helps.
Looks like it is over but here is the link and the colleges that were involved. While she may have no interest in tese schools these coaches can help. Also these coaches move. When DD was there the Stanford assistant saw her. Then that assistant became the head coach at Dartmouth, and now is the head coach at Notre Dame. DD was on a team with the UNLV assistant coach who became the Oregan (state or U - I forgot) coach.
http://www.stanfordsoccer.com/Girls_College_ID___Development_Camp.htm
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