Recruiting Tips for Parents Just Starting the Process

Zoro said:
I assume the shoot for the 25% part, maybe everything, but more on that.

Your kids grades, test score and soccer ability are their currency for getting in. Other things are too like legacy, donations, friends in high places, being the most interesting kid in the world and building houses for the poor in Africa. All play into admissions. But for the first ones only here is my odd reasoning.

Using two higher ranked schools as examples. A Player is smart and has 700 SAT Reading and Math. they are an A and B student with 3.6/4 GPA.

At UC Davis the 75th percentile SAT Reading/Math = 630/710 (they are good in math) ACT 30 (C9) https://www.sariweb.ucdavis.edu/commondataset/cds20152016.pdf
At Princeton the 25th percentile SAT Reading/Math = 690/700 ACT 32 https://registrar.princeton.edu/university_enrollment_sta/CDS2015-16.pdf

If the coaches want you for soccer - at both schools both SAT and Grades are good enough for both.
I think the one where the player is in the 25% makes them look better.

Same kind of pairing can be done on a Cal-State vs a UC. The 75% at a Cal-State is pretty close to a 25% at a UC. If the kid has a choice the one where they are in the 25% looks better.
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Way too complicated for me.

Older son (2008 HS grad) had so-so grades, perhaps the best striker on his club team, but only a bench player and backup keeper on his HS team. He got community-college recruiting interest, but he chose to play on his U19 club team rather than CC. His club coach had played keeper for 5 years (including injury redshirt year) at a CSU DII school, so that worked into a successful on-campus tryout and coach's assistance with priority admission. Due to factors out of our control, he never enrolled there, and continued to play club until he aged out.

Second son (2010) had 3.2 GPA and pretty good test scores, and was selected for Cal South and Region IV ODP teams. After the ODP games in Florida, he had his pick of offers, and none of the coaches saw any problems with his grades or test scores.

Easy-peasy. No 25% or 75% needed.
 
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espola said:
Way too complicated for me.
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I expect for many. But some may get it. I went over this with a dad of a mostly benched player on DD's U15 team (who got it). She's at Princeton. They also have a pretty good soccer school. I suspected, and now am convinced that dropping the name of a bunch of schools will get you the interview. In some cases - it will get you the job. that can of course be many places from SLO to many places where the alumni take care of their own. Not all schools do. It may not matter, but I saw it as another arrow in the quiver.
 
Zoro said:
I expect for many. But some may get it. I went over this with a dad of a mostly benched player on DD's U15 team (who got it). She's at Princeton. They also have a pretty good soccer school. I suspected, and now am convinced that dropping the name of a bunch of schools will get you the interview. In some cases - it will get you the job. that can of course be many places from SLO to many places where the alumni take care of their own. Not all schools do. It may not matter, but I saw it as another arrow in the quiver.
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Or you can have some confidence that your kids will make it on their own.
 
espola said:
Or you can have some confidence that your kids will make it on their own.
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If you see the thread title it is recruiting tips for parents. I take from that it is for those not wanting their kids to do it on their own.

If you want to start a parenting thread/confidence thread some may want to participate.
 
Zoro said:
If you see the thread title it is recruiting tips for parents. I take from that it is for those not wanting their kids to do it on their own.

If you want to start a parenting thread, confidence thread some may want to participate.
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I don't really care since my kids are all done with college, but I don't see how your blizzard of incomprehensible numbers is any help to anyone.
 
espola said:
I don't really care since my kids are all done with college, but I don't see how your blizzard of incomprehensible numbers is any help to anyone.
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Oh snap...not another onboard terrorist about to hijack the thread topic:eek:

Pola - There is nothin wrong with juco academia/athletics....it is a feasible and viable option for many. But just cause u don't get it or agree, no need to poo poo the info.

Z's tidbit of bravado is of help/value to those who are open to it......Clearly for u it was not.
 
Zerodenero said:
Oh snap...not another onboard terrorist about to hijack the thread topic:eek:

Pola - There is nothin wrong with juco academia/athletics....it is a feasible and viable option for many. But just cause u don't get it or agree, no need to poo poo the info.

Z's tidbit of bravado is of help/value to those who are open to it......Clearly for u it was not.
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I have no idea what that means.
 
MessiFTW said:
I bet your daughter would be ashamed about what you write about. You are a very bitter and insecure person. I feel sad for you.
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Insecure and bitter? Who keeps liking their own posts and spending the time to log in under multiple screen names and boo my posts? You must have some very serious problems at home. I recommend Cialis.
 
Zoro said:
I didn't think it mattered how smart my DD was (in a certain range) - that was/is my point. Find a school where kid is at least 25th percentile - that is a whole bunch of schools for most SoCal soccer families.........Could she have been accepted without soccer - stats say less than 50%.......
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So....lets bring this ship-show back around to try and be of help to parents of youngers.

Z- A good point you sort of touch on is the high value out of state/region college coaches view SoCal players.

There are hundreds of colleges with women soccer programs across the county. Because most of our kids are playing at/in a concentrated area high level of play - during our recruiting process, many coaches shared sw kids inherently have a high stock value.

Of course, individual soccer accolades of a player place a "premium soccer-stock" value, let's call those players "first round soccer" draft picks.......best of the best, (YNT Pool players, invites, ID2 Ecnl players etc)...... But for the 2nd rounders of soccer (that make up 90% ~ of the college recruiting pool), there are so many great schools available that it's really shortsight if kids/parents do not look outside of the area......don't short your kid w/a glass ceiling.
 
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A soccer Resume is very useful in sending to a coach and why some recruiting sites (like we used at CaptainU) create that format, but took that format and made it a nice e-mail readable look with links to videos.
We did a sports resume for son too and used it to send to schools.
It gives them focus on what their goal is, as they write something in the summary section. It also lets them see how their experiences help/don't help toward that goal.

This resume building skills transfer nicely to the job/school one they might use as soon as the first year's summer break.
 
Zerodenero said:
Food for thought....

USA Today: http://usat.ly/2aFAzBJ
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Its the kind of stories that really over generalize and view from perspective that only financial planner would have.

Given a finite funds, and if parents choses to spend it on A versus B, then naturally, B gets less resources. To make a direct link between saving for retirement vs spending on your kid is one of those kind of comparisons.

Its a different situation for each family. The right answer for one may or may not be the right answer for another. But to isolate sports in this context, it seems to me that, is a stretch.

Its a fact that most Americans don't save enough - mostly due to overextending on a regular basis. Perhaps its for kids sports but its more likely for all the other things.....

Heck, for those who are interested in this thread, the biggest expenses are still ahead of them (including myself) - college tuitions and expenses for our kids....

As a side note, the cost of education for the middle class is really bad. If you are on the lower end, there are more funds available for aide and with good grades there are help, and if you're on the top tier, you simply absorb it so its a bigger issue for the middle class working families.
 
Looking for some perspective:

My son attended a camp, from that camp a coach requested he attend that colleges camp this coming Sunday as he is interested in seeing more of my son and wants him to see the school campus.

He has a tournament this weekend for his club. It's a small local tourney with zero to no college coaches attending, it's essentially a revenue generator for the club, ages Ulittle to U19.

When I was upfront with his coach on wanting to attend the camp his coach would not support him missing the club tourney.

I feel his coach should be supportive of the college invite vs. fundraiser tourney for club.

Thoughts?
 
Azzurri said:
Looking for some perspective:

My son attended a camp, from that camp a coach requested he attend that colleges camp this coming Sunday as he is interested in seeing more of my son and wants him to see the school campus.

He has a tournament this weekend for his club. It's a small local tourney with zero to no college coaches attending, it's essentially a revenue generator for the club, ages Ulittle to U19.

When I was upfront with his coach on wanting to attend the camp his coach would not support him missing the club tourney.

I feel his coach should be supportive of the college invite vs. fundraiser tourney for club.

Thoughts?
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There is a good chance that the college camp is a revenue generator for the college program.
 
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