"looks as though"? How does that work?
Recruiting Tips for Parents Just Starting the Process
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"looks as though"? How does that work?
goldentoe
SILVER
Espola - I'm sure you know this, but just in case. Generally when a student athelete receives their offer they'll have their compensation broken down. Tuition, housing, meals, books, COA, and academic money. Cost of attendance is just one of the components that make up a scholarship. COA is extra money allowed to cover stuff like clothing, toiletries, gas money, whatever incidentals you can think of. Usually it's around 1000-3000 a semester. Maybe more, maybe less. The term COA can also refer to a non-student athlete's full Cost to atttend a particular university, but in recent years it's also referred to as the supplemental scholarship money added by the Power 5 schools
Some schools hand it out. I guess all Power 5s do. You do not have to be on a full ride to get COA money, and the amount can vary from player to player.
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Espola - I'm sure you know this, but just in case. Generally when a student athelete receives their offer they'll have their compensation broken down. Tuition, housing, meals, books, COA, and academic money. Cost of attendance is just one of the components that make up a scholarship. COA is extra money allowed to cover stuff like clothing, toiletries, gas money, whatever incidentals you can think of. Usually it's around 1000-3000 a semester. Maybe more, maybe less. The term COA can also refer to a non-student athlete's full Cost to atttend a particular university, but in recent years it's also referred to as the supplemental scholarship money added by the Power 5 schools
Some schools hand it out. I guess all Power 5s do. You do not have to be on a full ride to get COA money, and the amount can vary from player to player.
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The cost of attendance boost was a change in the NCAA formula of what was allowed to be included in a "full" scholarship. It is not limited to just the "power 5" conferences.
Playmaker38
BRONZE
That is too tough to answer. Each division 1 program has 14 full rides (100%) scholarships to distribute.
Rosters range in size typically between 25 and up to the low 30s in some cases.
A highly valued player (difference maker) would receive a larger scholarship offer than perhaps an in state end of the bench role player.
On many division 1 programs (lets say those less highly coveted than a top 25 program) it may take more money to attract those impact players. So if 3 players on a roster of 28 take full rides that only leaves 11 full rides to distribute between the remaining 25 players. The chances of that being equally distributed is minimal.
Some schools will also back-end scholarships. Offer freshmen lower scholarship amounts with the caveat that if they produce it is likely there scholarship will be increased each year.
There is no clear cut average on scholarships.
goldentoe
SILVER
Plenty of people can chime in on this. I would say 50% is pretty common, but more players than you would think get 25-35%, and 80-100% rides are very rare. I'm referring purely to the athletic $$, as many schools have academic scholarships to enhance the package. This is why grades and test scores are so important. A player can be on a 30% athletic ride, but with the right GPA and ACT or SAT score they can pick up another 20-30%+ at some schools. Coaches will often want to know about a player's grades right off the bat, as they will be figuring the academic money into the future financial proposal.
MakeAPlay
DA
I will chime in on this. It varies greatly. You would be surprised how many players just get book money or a nominal amount of money. Even on the roster at top schools you can have several players getting 75%+, several getting 50% and many getting 25% or less. Not to mention that an impact player can ask for more money than they originally got even if they got 50% or more originally. Grades and need can help. The Holy Grail at a particular top 3 in state private school is a national team player with a 4.0 and parents that make $60K or less a year. That player will get a full ride that doesn't cost one cent of athletic money.
If there is any student-athlete money, then the total money from all sources cannot exceed the NCAA-determined limit for the school. Astute coaches can determine which of their players are eligible and likely to receive other aid from the school (such as academic, need-based, special circumstances like your veteran's kid example, etc).
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MakeAPlay
DA
Also some kids have unused portions of their non-Athletic aid due to the amount of athletic aid that they received.
Simisoccerfan
PREMIER
We have an excellent starting deal that gets better on the back end. They had more financial flexibility still open in the last two years. Still waiting to hear about any academic money. Daughter has great grades so we are hopeful.
eastbaysoccer
GOLD
25% athletic could be more common as not all D1 schools are alotted the full 14 scholarships.
IMO if your dd is getting 40% or higher athletic that’s pretty good. Usually with high scores and grades academic merit could take the total amount offered to 70-80%.
IMO if your dd is getting 40% or higher athletic that’s pretty good. Usually with high scores and grades academic merit could take the total amount offered to 70-80%.
Banana Hammock
SILVER ELITE
Is there any preference given to kids that have non-athletic money, but still make the team, and save the coach money in the long run. Along these lines, which money is used first, athletic or non-athletic?
younothat
PREMIER
This is the thread about the topic: http://www.socalsoccer.com/threads/id-camps-and-da-players.16430/
College Camp Policy
https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/wk8nm2mwq34yvbbu548pvwywmdkklzju
Academy players will be permitted to attend winter college camps provided the Academy Coach has approved attendance. The following guidelines are in place
for college camps:
a)The camp may be no longer than three days in length;
b)The player may only attend one camp per school per year;
c)The player may not attend a camp if it falls during the competitive season or is equal to 11 or less than one week prior to the start of the competitive DA season; and
d) College summer camps that fall outside of the DA season do not apply and players may attend such camps without needing to request a waiver
Basically just like B) says one camp per school per year. Yes you can attend multiple camps at different schools just not multiple ones at the same school same school year.
What does "or is equal to 11 or less than one week" mean?
Perfect. Thanks so much. What is considered the “competitive season”? Everything but the summer?
younothat
PREMIER
My interpretation of that is any time league season is in play, there was a break from Dec-Jan for the boys at least and there was a bunch of ID camps going on during this time for example. For the girls I understand the timing is different and the thread talks about that somewhat. There is a spring break period
Ha that's a character typo should read
" The player may not attend a camp if it falls during the competitive season or is equal to or less than one week prior to the start of the competitive DA season"
SMUfan
SILVER
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Cornell
Williams
University of Chicago
Carnegie Mellon
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MakeAPlay
DA
From my experience the coach prefers players that are going to help immediately regardless of where the money comes from. Athletic money is applied first. Sometimes other money goes unused especially if the athlete gets a high percentage of athletic aid. My rule of thumb is if college is going to cost you annually what it cost you in club or less than that, then you got a good deal.