Recruiting Tips for Parents Just Starting the Process

Simisoccerfan said:
At the risk of being attacked again by Soccer43 I will share that my daughter committed today! It has been a long road but finally getting her the exposure of playing DA (ECNL would have offered the same exposure) made the difference. Multiple coaches have told us that they wish she had moved to ECNL earlier in her career. Instead we stayed at our smaller club one or two years too long. Frankly, I had bought into the philosophy that it does not matter what league she plays in, the coaches will find her. While in concept this can happen, in reality is it much easier getting there playing ECNL or DA because that is where the coaches go to recruit. The good news is that we did move and it all worked out. She is going to get to study the major of her choice and still play soccer at a school of her choice.
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Congrats to your DD @Simisoccerfan!
 
Simisoccerfan said:
At the risk of being attacked again by Soccer43 I will share that my daughter committed today! It has been a long road but finally getting her the exposure of playing DA (ECNL would have offered the same exposure) made the difference. Multiple coaches have told us that they wish she had moved to ECNL earlier in her career. Instead we stayed at our smaller club one or two years too long. Frankly, I had bought into the philosophy that it does not matter what league she plays in, the coaches will find her. While in concept this can happen, in reality is it much easier getting there playing ECNL or DA because that is where the coaches go to recruit. The good news is that we did move and it all worked out. She is going to get to study the major of her choice and still play soccer at a school of her choice.
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Congrats to your player! Best of luck to her on the next part of her journey.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
At the risk of being attacked again by Soccer43 I will share that my daughter committed today! It has been a long road but finally getting her the exposure of playing DA (ECNL would have offered the same exposure) made the difference. Multiple coaches have told us that they wish she had moved to ECNL earlier in her career. Instead we stayed at our smaller club one or two years too long. Frankly, I had bought into the philosophy that it does not matter what league she plays in, the coaches will find her. While in concept this can happen, in reality is it much easier getting there playing ECNL or DA because that is where the coaches go to recruit. The good news is that we did move and it all worked out. She is going to get to study the major of her choice and still play soccer at a school of her choice.
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Fantastic! Congrats! Good words too. All the best for you and your DD!
 
Simisoccerfan said:
At the risk of being attacked again by Soccer43 I will share that my daughter committed today! It has been a long road but finally getting her the exposure of playing DA (ECNL would have offered the same exposure) made the difference. Multiple coaches have told us that they wish she had moved to ECNL earlier in her career. Instead we stayed at our smaller club one or two years too long. Frankly, I had bought into the philosophy that it does not matter what league she plays in, the coaches will find her. While in concept this can happen, in reality is it much easier getting there playing ECNL or DA because that is where the coaches go to recruit. The good news is that we did move and it all worked out. She is going to get to study the major of her choice and still play soccer at a school of her choice.
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Congrats!!!
 
Simisoccerfan said:
At the risk of being attacked again by Soccer43 I will share that my daughter committed today! It has been a long road but finally getting her the exposure of playing DA (ECNL would have offered the same exposure) made the difference. Multiple coaches have told us that they wish she had moved to ECNL earlier in her career. Instead we stayed at our smaller club one or two years too long. Frankly, I had bought into the philosophy that it does not matter what league she plays in, the coaches will find her. While in concept this can happen, in reality is it much easier getting there playing ECNL or DA because that is where the coaches go to recruit. The good news is that we did move and it all worked out. She is going to get to study the major of her choice and still play soccer at a school of her choice.
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Well don’t keep us in suspense! At least change your avatar or something to give us a clue ;) Congrats to you DD!
 
Simisoccerfan said:
Good advice! Thanks
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Congrats, JMU is a great school. I have a lot of family and friends in that part of the country, Virginia, West Virginia and Pennsylvania. Beautiful area and lots of historical places within a couple hours drive. Just make sure you get her properly outfitted for the bitter cold and snow. We were back to visit family near Cambersburg, PA and Charlottesville, VA and it was f’ing freezing with 6-8 feet of snow.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
At the risk of being attacked again by Soccer43 I will share that my daughter committed today! It has been a long road but finally getting her the exposure of playing DA (ECNL would have offered the same exposure) made the difference. Multiple coaches have told us that they wish she had moved to ECNL earlier in her career. Instead we stayed at our smaller club one or two years too long. Frankly, I had bought into the philosophy that it does not matter what league she plays in, the coaches will find her. While in concept this can happen, in reality is it much easier getting there playing ECNL or DA because that is where the coaches go to recruit. The good news is that we did move and it all worked out. She is going to get to study the major of her choice and still play soccer at a school of her choice.
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Congrats to your daughter - it can be a long and challenging road no matter what level your DD plays. It is a big accomplishment and the coach there is great. It absolutely matters if you play on ECNL/DA. It isn't impossible to get recruited but it is much more challenging if your player is not on a top team in one of those leagues.

btw - I am not that simple and don't be so easily offended- I don't just go around bashing posters, go back and read your original post compared to how other people post about the recruiting process - I stand by what I said - By listing all the individual colleges and where you were visiting it did not come across well whether you meant it that way or not. And I have been attacked on this forum also, it goes with the territory with posting anything on a public forum that allows for anonymity.
 
I previously posted this on another thread under the 'college recruiting' tab but I think this is the better thread to seek some insight:

What's the take on the 'new NCAA recruiting rules' with regard to a coach giving a prospect a campus tour while in season (if that even makes a difference) and if doable, are there any limitations as far as amount of time spent on tour, etc.? DD and I have an opportunity for a road trip and want to make the best if it. Thanks in advance for the insight.
 
GoWest said:
I previously posted this on another thread under the 'college recruiting' tab but I think this is the better thread to seek some insight:

What's the take on the 'new NCAA recruiting rules' with regard to a coach giving a prospect a campus tour while in season (if that even makes a difference) and if doable, are there any limitations as far as amount of time spent on tour, etc.? DD and I have an opportunity for a road trip and want to make the best if it. Thanks in advance for the insight.
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I have this exact same question...
 
@GoWest, age/HS grade of athlete (Junior, Senior, etc.). Its my understanding that for D1 starting the Junior year, official visits (coach involved, lodging, etc.) can occur on September 1. The changes are designed to allow the student/athlete to have an experience that mirrors the student body in order to make a more informed decision.
 
GoWest said:
I previously posted this on another thread under the 'college recruiting' tab but I think this is the better thread to seek some insight:

What's the take on the 'new NCAA recruiting rules' with regard to a coach giving a prospect a campus tour while in season (if that even makes a difference) and if doable, are there any limitations as far as amount of time spent on tour, etc.? DD and I have an opportunity for a road trip and want to make the best if it. Thanks in advance for the insight.
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Check out these links: D1 recruiting D2 recruiting D3 recruiting
As far as I know there is really no time frame if it's an unofficial visit.
 
GoWest said:
I previously posted this on another thread under the 'college recruiting' tab but I think this is the better thread to seek some insight:

What's the take on the 'new NCAA recruiting rules' with regard to a coach giving a prospect a campus tour while in season (if that even makes a difference) and if doable, are there any limitations as far as amount of time spent on tour, etc.? DD and I have an opportunity for a road trip and want to make the best if it. Thanks in advance for the insight.
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From what I understand, unless your DD is a Junior, she can't technically have an "unofficial" visit with the coaching staff involved. For kids that are younger than Junior year, they are getting around this with "1-day" clinics/camps where campus tours are part of the schedule. My DD was just invited to one and she's a Sophomore, so this appears to be the approach now.
 
Toepoke said:
Check out these links: D1 recruiting D2 recruiting D3 recruiting
As far as I know there is really no time frame if it's an unofficial visit.
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https://usatodayhss.com/2018/what-new-d1-recruiting-rules-mean-for-unofficial-visits

Here is an excerpt from the article
What are the new D1 rules regarding unofficial visits?
The basics of the unofficial visit are unchanged. An unofficial visit is one in which the family foots the bill for a campus visit. Families can still take unofficial visits as early and as often as the student-athletes want. But the new rules prohibit coaches and athletic departments from participating in the student-athlete’s unofficial visit until Sept. 1 of the recruit’s junior year in high school. Previously during an official visit, the athlete could talk to a coach (except during a dead period on the recruiting calendar). The athlete might even receive an early verbal offer. Now, if a freshman or sophomore student-athlete happens to encounter a coach during their unofficial visit, they cannot have any recruiting conversations.

According to the new rules, student-athletes can still receive up to three free home sporting event tickets (prospects from families in which parents are divorced or separated may receive two additional free admissions). If the sporting venue is off-campus, the school can provide transportation within a 30-mile radius.




The basics are completely different. When our family did our unofficials a coach gave the tour, we met with academic advisors, trainers, got to see the facilities, go on the field with the team before a game, talk to the staff and get a general feel for them and the institution. Now you can't do this until your junior year. Who are these idiots that make these rules. If i want to spend the money to visit to see if it's a good fit for my dd, then the staff should be able to spend time with the recruit. Its good for the school to see if the recruit is a good fit for the team and it's good for the recruit to see if the school/staff is a goof fit for them. You can then spread those visits with various schools out over 2 or 3 years. Now the change forces you to do it on your own(visiting without any interaction with the coaching staff/facilities prior to your junior year) or cram it in your junior and senior year. If you want to change something significant change when you are allowed to make verbal offers.
 
It's ridiculous that girls are committing before their Junior year. 14, 15, and 16 year old girls should not be put in the position to make these decisions so early. Let them grow up some more before they need to decide where they want to spend 4 years of their life and what major they want to study. Plus there is no guarantee that coaches recruiting them will even be still at the school by the time the finally get there. In our process we had several coaches tell us that they wish they still had money or spots upon for their 2019 class but they way the system works right now they have to be focused on the 2020 and 2021 classes already.

With the new rules banning in person recruiting discussions really anywhere before the start of the Junior year all that is left the ability to talk to a coach via a phone call initiated by the player. Now girls will be pressured to verbally commit early without ever having an in person recruiting discussion because the top schools will not want to wait unit the start of the Junior year. I personally believe they should just come out and ban any sort of recruiting discussions prior to the start of the Junior year in any format.

Also don't expect that schools will pay for your recruiting trip. It's unlikely since you only get one paid trip to a school (and only 5 trips to D1's). Most schools will want to use this trip during your kids senior year to bring all of the commits in together at once.
 
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