Recruiting Tips for Parents Just Starting the Process
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You started this conversation with a pompous dig at large schools. Now you end it calling me sunshine. Your shallowness is evident in your posts. Small schools sometimes have classes online too. You don't like large classes. You need your hand held. We get it. Some people thrive in big cities, others do not. To each his/her own. I would never go to a small school. It is not me. But, I find no need to take a dig at them when I have never attended one, nor am I naive enough to put all small schools in the same box.
hugyourkids
BRONZE
I generally do not get involved but you did take a dig ("you need your hand held"). I went to big schools but my kids are at smaller schools. They would do fine at either, but I have to say I had no conception of how incredible the small school experience could be until seeing my kids attend them. I had tons of large auditorium classes, they have almost none. No is holding their hands, yet the professor interaction and career support is phenomenal. To each his/her own, just skip the digs, please.
Simisoccerfan
PREMIER
I feel like you are naive. Regarding going pro there are around 333 D1 women's soccer programs and about 9500 players at those schools. Maybe 40 per year go pro. That's a 1% chance to make it. For those that do great they get to continue their passion but the other 99% of D1 players won't go pro. They will have to deal with transfers and younger players taking their playing time. Thus they should pick the college that gives them the best overall experience and the chance to get the education they want. If soccer can help pay for this education that is about the most any parent can hope for. Regarding your first paragraph, I totally disagree with you. My other two kids played but not in college. The entire experience including those long car drives are great memories and they learned valuable skills that they continue to use.
Simisoccerfan
PREMIER
I would think that lecture-based classes are fine for some, but it requires a pretty good attention span and engaging professors.
Apologies if it looks like I'm knocking University of Arkansas because it looks like an affordable school, but the local internship possibilities are bleak:
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Looks like you only went to schools with large classes sizes because it looks like you're not capable of researching, analysing and listening to other's opinions. lol
Actually the University of Arkansas ranks #161 on Forbes list based on the best value. This compares the cost of attendance vs what graduates actually make. That is actually higher than the University of Southern California.
eastbaysoccer
GOLD
And going pro equates to how much money per year?
Simisoccerfan
PREMIER
$40k to 50k average for established players in top leagues of US, France and England. Less for rookies. Few US National team players get big supplement from US soccer and endorsement. But that is a small fraction.
eastbaysoccer
GOLD
Hmm. Might be worth playing a year or two.
more power to the kids that want to do it. You are only young once.
I would argue this number is higher if you count the young women who go overseas to play. Again we are talking about peanuts for pay but still I think the number is a bit higher.
outside!
DA
Some of the players that go overseas to play have fairly short careers, particularly if they don't speak the language. Low pay, no friends and a strange language make for a tough situation.
Ain't that the truth. If it's about the almighty $$$$$$, then it's not worth it, MOO. If it's about playing pro soccer and offer good will all in one, this could all work out. Why does everything about being a pro in anything always seems to be about how much you make? I went to my old pals house up in the City of Weed, CA and he is set. Dude quit HS at 17 and never went to college. He can live off the land. No joke. Dude is a smart cat. I'm looking in the area as well. I found an old camp site that I'm looking at turning into a Holistic Healing Center right off the 5 fwry. 15 acres. I think people need to calm the heck down and relax and enjoy life up in the mountains. Mount Shasta is amazing
The pressure cooker we made for ourselves and our kids was not good at all.Tips from Crush Read this article about this basketball player from Socal.
www.espn.com
Tip #1- Relax and enjoy this wonderful time in your dd/ds recruiting life and let them make the decision
Tip#2- D1 is over sold and over hyped, moo
Tip#3- Scholarship does NOT equal Full Ride
Tip#4- If you rush it, you will ruin it
My dd is having a blast and taking her time in this process. I wanted to share a cool story about a cool coach. I won;t mention the school but I will say it was not D1 and not in California. The bold coach told my dd he wanted a few minutes to share his vision of her playing for his program and how much the little town loves soccer and how they would embrace her talents. I was not on the call but did catch part of it and all I can say was it was the best call so far. The coach was the real deal and made my dd think about the what ifs. He made her feel like she would be important. The Tip I'm trying to point out is to keep an open mind and dont push your kid in one direction. Good luck to all the kids still trying to find a school to play for in 2022
Read this article about this basketball player from Socal.
The most unlikely college hoops powerhouse, centuries in the making
Led by a player with NBA aspirations, Yeshiva takes a 36-game winning streak into the new season with hopes for a Division III title.
Tip #1- Relax and enjoy this wonderful time in your dd/ds recruiting life and let them make the decision
Tip#2- D1 is over sold and over hyped, moo
Tip#3- Scholarship does NOT equal Full Ride
Tip#4- If you rush it, you will ruin it
My dd is having a blast and taking her time in this process. I wanted to share a cool story about a cool coach. I won;t mention the school but I will say it was not D1 and not in California. The bold coach told my dd he wanted a few minutes to share his vision of her playing for his program and how much the little town loves soccer and how they would embrace her talents. I was not on the call but did catch part of it and all I can say was it was the best call so far. The coach was the real deal and made my dd think about the what ifs. He made her feel like she would be important. The Tip I'm trying to point out is to keep an open mind and dont push your kid in one direction. Good luck to all the kids still trying to find a school to play for in 2022
eastbaysoccer
GOLD
It's recruiting . they will tell you what you want to hear to get you to commit.
EvilGoalie 21
GOLD
Re the "big school" vs "small school" dichotomy. Just my 2 cents. Factor out student athlete. Generally, if you think "my kid could benefit from having the mantle of collegiality extended to them right at the beginning", a smaller school might be a good fit. You can always transfer, and for CSU/CU, the system really wants the CUs to be looking to take those transfer students. There is an increasing recognition of the issues experienced by first gens, imposter syndrome, etc. On the big school side, if your kid is ready, don't underestimate what "Hey, I can hang with the top 10% in a class of 500" can do for individual growth. By the time those students are juniors/seniors, they will be taking smaller classes with people that know the field and who can open doors, more so than at a small school. They will come home for Christmas senior year and you'll sense the depth of experience has changed. There are some schools, of course, that can give you both, but they are low enrollment institutions that are very selective and $$$$,
Now factor student athlete back in. I don't know about the ladies side. For the guys, I've known student athletes who have told me they feel under serious pressure to be both on the travel team and getting the grades/progressing through their major. I have this feeling that to keep their job on the men's side major school D1 coaches are basically needing to figure out a way to host a USL team on a college campus. I should probably go back through my kids recruitment videos and photoshop in full build out man pecs and a beard. Maybe on the ladies side it is different, still kind of the classic student/athlete model. I don't know. But the comments in the thread along the lines of know your kid and in the end education is the most important thing seem on the mark to me. Us adults got our kids rolling on this playing has positive life lessons blah blah blah bandwagon. As that collides with the adult world we bear an equal responsibility to see them through.
Now factor student athlete back in. I don't know about the ladies side. For the guys, I've known student athletes who have told me they feel under serious pressure to be both on the travel team and getting the grades/progressing through their major. I have this feeling that to keep their job on the men's side major school D1 coaches are basically needing to figure out a way to host a USL team on a college campus. I should probably go back through my kids recruitment videos and photoshop in full build out man pecs and a beard. Maybe on the ladies side it is different, still kind of the classic student/athlete model. I don't know. But the comments in the thread along the lines of know your kid and in the end education is the most important thing seem on the mark to me. Us adults got our kids rolling on this playing has positive life lessons blah blah blah bandwagon. As that collides with the adult world we bear an equal responsibility to see them through.
My son got a tryout offer from a low-level team in Germany after his Freshman year in college, the result of an early-summer tryout camp organized by a former college classmate of his last club coach. The classmate had played for a few years with the German club and when he came back to the States he used his connections here and over there to set up the camp. Five were chosen to go - one returned soon after when his bum knee gave out, three, including my son, were offered what amounted to room-and-board student visa roster positions. Two of those stayed - one for a few months until he came back for the Spring semester at college, and one who stayed and played sparingly for a couple of years and then returned to finish his schooling at an NAIA school. My son decided he had a better deal at his college (room and board and education plus a starting roster position) so he came back in time for the preseason workouts.
Is that your Tip?
What do you mean by neing
on a “fancy” team? Is that league or name brand club?
Top half of table ECNL club with a good reputation among local college coaches.
5 minutes is not too long if every second shows strength in a different skill. Strong right-footed shot, strong left-footed shot, run through defenders using both feet, a couple of one-touch goals (including a header), some nice set up passes, taking the ball away from opponents -- what are we up to here? 45 seconds?
Mystery Train
GOLD
Yep. You're right. Toooooo long. These coaches get an avalanche of videos every day. I had one coach tell me he will give every video 30 seconds and the ones that interest him will get 2 minutes max.