preach it! You’re spot on with this. I’d go further and say they’ve already started...still time to right the ship
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preach it! You’re spot on with this. I’d go further and say they’ve already started...still time to right the ship
I gotta say I’m not seeing a whole lot of “unity!” It’s fine if he doesn’t wanna govern that way (Trump certainly didn’t) but that’s not what was sold to the electorate.
Throwing that crazy r off her committees too is going to have consequences which the rs will give to the ds the next time they are in charge and it’s not like some ds haven’t said a bunch of crazy or antisemitic stuff before.
the one thing which does stick into my craw is appointing Kerry as climate czar when he’s zipping around the world in a private plane and owns 10 different houses with a bigger carbon footprint than I can ever make in 5 lifetimes.
Throwing that crazy r off her committees too is going to have consequences which the rs will give to the ds the next time they are in charge and it’s not like some ds haven’t said a bunch of crazy or antisemitic stuff before.
the one thing which does stick into my craw is appointing Kerry as climate czar when he’s zipping around the world in a private plane and owns 10 different houses with a bigger carbon footprint than I can ever make in 5 lifetimes.
Which ds did you have in mind there? Anything close to Jewish space lasers starting California wildfires?
And where are those 10 houses?
I've read various reports on the houses from 3 to 20 actually. It depends how you count them (do you count rental properties....properties he enjoys but owned by his wife).
And there is at least one antisemitic equivalent: Omar. There are lots of others, while not necessarily equivalent, are vulnerable: Maxine Waters (for incitement), Pelosi (for CVOID hypocrisy), AOC (for her story about the Capitol hill storming). Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if a majority party adopts a rule: no nationalists/no socialists can hold committee seats. I'm less concerned about what the standard is for stripping the opposite party member of the committee assignment, that this is now going to be used (with varying degrees of justification) from now on.
I know that Kerry married a rich woman who keeps properties in her name in accordance with their pre-nuptial agreement. Is that where your 10 comes from?
What did Omar say that you think is anti-semitic?
The rest of your response is just confirmation that you are lost and don't really know what you are talking about:
Small example. There are others.....
Rep. Ilhan Omar deletes the controversial tweets that drew charges of anti-Semitism
Rep. Ilhan Omar apologized for the tweets the next day.
www.usatoday.com
As to the houses, hey if you are the climate czar maybe your spouse shouldn't have upteen number of houses either. What is the expression: "Caesar's wife must be above suspicion?"
Small example. There are others.....
Rep. Ilhan Omar deletes the controversial tweets that drew charges of anti-Semitism
Rep. Ilhan Omar apologized for the tweets the next day.www.usatoday.com
As to the houses, hey if you are the climate czar maybe your spouse shouldn't have upteen number of houses either. What is the expression: "Caesar's wife must be above suspicion?"
"...azccusations..."? Is that the best you have?
Is "upteen" more than 10?
Meh....there's a ton more....colleagues within her own party have condemned her antisemetic remarks. Not really a person you want to be defending here....
Minnesota Congresswoman Ignites Debate On Israel And Anti-Semitism
Constituents of Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., voice concern over recent controversial comments. On Thursday, the House of Representatives passed a resolution condemning anti-Semitism.
www.npr.org
Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, Miftah, and the problem of anti-Semitism within the movement for Palestinians' right to self-determination
Miftah, the group that was to host Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib's trip to the West Bank, has published anti-Semitism and support for suicide bombers.
www.businessinsider.com
Ilhan Omar's comments were anti-Semitic rhetoric, let's not beat around the bush: Today's talker
When prominent people or members of Congress spout anti-Semitic rhetoric, it gives a green light to others to repeat that rhetoric, says head of ADL.
www.usatoday.com
Meh....there's a ton more....colleagues within her own party have condemned her antisemetic remarks. Not really a person you want to be defending here....
Minnesota Congresswoman Ignites Debate On Israel And Anti-Semitism
Constituents of Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., voice concern over recent controversial comments. On Thursday, the House of Representatives passed a resolution condemning anti-Semitism.
Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, Miftah, and the problem of anti-Semitism within the movement for Palestinians' right to self-determination
Miftah, the group that was to host Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib's trip to the West Bank, has published anti-Semitism and support for suicide bombers.
Ilhan Omar's comments were anti-Semitic rhetoric, let's not beat around the bush: Today's talker
When prominent people or members of Congress spout anti-Semitic rhetoric, it gives a green light to others to repeat that rhetoric, says head of ADL.www.usatoday.com
More opinions and accusations. Here is something she actually tweeted --
I'm just going to assume that you are just trying to be your usual Magoo contrarian here, since I don't think you are a bad person or have bad intentions. But her D colleagues have denounced her remarks in the past, and she was forced to apologize. Now, you can argue she's reformed (which is fine) but I think her past remarks aren't really great, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near being implied to defend them, and your defense of her isn't the action of a large C or small c conservative.
Before I respond, what is your definition of "anti-Semitism"?
I don't really have one. But I know if the D's are saying the remarks were anti-Semitic, and it's agreed in a bipartisan way, it ain't good.m Again, I'm less concerned whether something is or isn't wrong than the precedent the action sets. You're going off the road again and into a forest, and this one is a particularly dark one.
"I really don't have one".
That appears to be a bold admission that you don't know what you are talking about. Are you just spooning up pablum without even tasting it?
If all it takes are crazy beliefs, I could come up with strong justifications for every single member of congress for which I'd find supporters. Do you believe in a spaghetti monster flying through the sky? An invisible omnipotent being in the sky not named God or Allah or Elohim? Mother Gaia? Any supernatural being, no matter the name? Guam may capsize? The world will end in 12 years? Obama was born in Kenya? We exist inside a computer simulation? The undead? Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is not a reference to LSD? Moon landing was faked? Moon landing wasn't faked?
I could go on. To complicate things even further, what was crazy 100 years ago may no longer seem crazy and what is crazy now might not be seen as crazy 100 years from now. Who knows, maybe Guam actually will capsize from too many people living there.
To be clear, I think MTG is crazy or at least has said some pretty crazy things and in a sane world she wouldn't have been elected in the first place. However, it is tough for me to objectively say that she or her beliefs are any more crazy or bigoted than any other member of Congress and so I can confidently agree and say that this precedent will used in the future by one party against members of an opposing party that may or may not deserve it. In fact, I'm pretty confident it will be expanded to eventually expel members of an opposing party from Congress. If convicted of criminal acts, it is a different story of course.
Just go down deeper into that road. Frankly I'm surprised you would defend her. The remarks are disgusting. The Ds condemned them. She was forced to apologize for them. She made remarks more than once. Dude...you are really deep on this one. If you think Omar is all that please don't ever call yourself a conservative.
You say her remarks are antisemitic but you can't give a definition of what that means.
I wouldn't presume to culturally appropriate to try to come up with some other culture's definition of racism.
I'm relying on the fact that several of her D colleagues condemned the remark, she was forced to apologize for them, and a not small segment of the Jewish community took offense.
Again, surprised you are doubling down in defending her.
I don't see how you can say I am defending her when you won't state what it is that she needs to be defended from.
By an overwhelming number, the party affiliation of Representatives expelled, censured, reprimanded, or excluded has been Democratic.
The quotes, from which members of her own party and the Jewish community took offense, posted above in several news sources.
I think it's actually kind of funny that not only did you go off the road into the forest on the main point (that this sets a horrible precedent for the future regardless of the nature of the statement), but just because you wanted to try and one up me in a rhetorical debate on a minor side point, you find yourself in a position of defending Omar's comments, for which she herself was forced to apologize. Nice own goal.