It's telling (in a poker sense of "telling") when you signal the emptiness of your arguments with your Magoo taunts.
President Joe Biden
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It's telling (in a poker sense of "telling") when you signal the emptiness of your arguments with your Magoo taunts.
Naw,, it just means you've gone deeper down the rabbit hole and are more lost. If you watch the cartoon series, even he was capable of moments of brilliance...the sad thing is he was just getting continuous lost and was incapable of admitting it to himself because he was too stubborn. It really is the perfect analogy for you. Someone else made it first, so can't take full credit for it.
q.e.d.
"Oh Magoo, brilliant as usual"
You want to be taken seriously when you quote Shore News Network?We've had this discussion before. You can't seriously be arguing there was no fraud in Pennsylvania at all, not a single instance. Even the Ds in Congress have admitted no election is perfect. Again, you are missing forest through the trees. It could very well be de minimis for all we know.
Trump Campaign Shows Proof: Dead People Voted in Pennsylvania Election
PHILADELPHIA, PA - Despite the mainstream media's attempt to coverup voter fraud and tech giants Facebook and Twitter squelching the truth on their platform,www.shorenewsnetwork.com
They can’t even write a headline. What self respecting newspaper uses the word “proof” in a headline about politics? In a high school journalism class, they would mark it all up in red and hand it back to you.
Go back to a decent conservative rag. WSJ maybe. Someone with a style sheet and standards for what they do and do not claim in the newsroom.
Yes, trash news brings out my condescension in full force.
Desert Hound
DA
It will.
Because what is being proposed is a gutting of any semblance of verification of voters.
It makes cheating easy.
Take ballot harvesting. Having people go around and collect and help people fill out ballots makes it too easy to compromise those ballets. If there is money and power involved...there will always be a big incentive to cheat.
When one says...well that wont affect a national election. Just think back to FL in 2000. The state was won with less than 600 votes.
Now think about local elections where the margins for many races is even less.
Vote by mail? After the 2k election there was a commission put together of high ranking Ds and Rs. They concluded mail in voting is generally a bad idea because it is so easy to manipulate.
Ask yourself this. Why would there be a push to NOT identify people by ID when they vote? Why would we NOT want to know if a person voting is the actual registered voter.
And so on.
All the changes that were done for the recent election and what are being proposed loosen actual oversight on what is going on.
Desert Hound
DA
Funny how that works.
‘Dark Money’ Helped Pave Joe Biden’s Path to the White House
President Joe Biden benefited from a record-breaking amount of donations from anonymous donors to outside groups backing him, meaning the public will never have a full accounting of who helped him win the White House.
www.bloomberg.com
Desert Hound
DA
Not sure why the link says Are you a robot.
Their story however is about the fact that Biden took in HUGE sums of dark money. The kind of money Ds pretend to be worried about.
www.bloomberg.com
Their story however is about the fact that Biden took in HUGE sums of dark money. The kind of money Ds pretend to be worried about.
‘Dark Money’ Helped Pave Joe Biden’s Path to the White House
President Joe Biden benefited from a record-breaking amount of donations from anonymous donors to outside groups backing him, meaning the public will never have a full accounting of who helped him win the White House.
www.bloomberg.com
Desert Hound
DA
You know they need to get rid of stuff like this BEFORE elections.
How do ballots that get mailed in arrive without a postmark anyway?
By the way speaking of the same we saw interesting stuff in PA. Ballots mailed out and returned on the same day? How is that possible? Ballots mailed out and received the very next day? How is that possible?
There are all kinds of things election wise that have to be fixed in order to have elections that everyone believes is done properly.
"The Virginia Board of Elections rule allowing officials to count ballots that arrived without a postmark up to three days after the election was illegal, a state judge ruled.
Virginia Circuit Court Judge William Eldridge ruled the state’s late mail-in ballot law violated state statute and permanently banned the law in future Virginia elections, the Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF) announced Monday. PILF sued the state’s board of elections in October on behalf of Thomas Reed, a Frederick County, Virginia election official."
dailycaller.com
How do ballots that get mailed in arrive without a postmark anyway?
By the way speaking of the same we saw interesting stuff in PA. Ballots mailed out and returned on the same day? How is that possible? Ballots mailed out and received the very next day? How is that possible?
There are all kinds of things election wise that have to be fixed in order to have elections that everyone believes is done properly.
"The Virginia Board of Elections rule allowing officials to count ballots that arrived without a postmark up to three days after the election was illegal, a state judge ruled.
Virginia Circuit Court Judge William Eldridge ruled the state’s late mail-in ballot law violated state statute and permanently banned the law in future Virginia elections, the Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF) announced Monday. PILF sued the state’s board of elections in October on behalf of Thomas Reed, a Frederick County, Virginia election official."
Virginia Rule Allowing Late Ballots Missing Postmark Was Illegal, Court Rules
The Virginia Board of Elections rule allowing officials to count ballots that arrived without a postmark up to three days after the election was illegal.
dailycaller.com
I unlike you know that knowledge can come from the most obscure places. In the last 2 weeks, I have also quoted "The Guardian" and "The Nation". I'm not closed minded and am open to almost all sources, particularly when mainstream sources are going out of their way to avoid reporting on the situation for fear of giving Trump's claims credence, however limited.
p.s. I can't believe that you and espola are arguing it was a 100% perfect election, given the complete lack of signature verification in Pennsylvania, and there wasn't a single instance of fraud. I guess now we know why you are an "N". That's not data driven and you know that.
when did I say that it was perfect?
I do believe that the level of fraud was not close to sufficient to change the outcome. As do the courts.
I’m doing fine with data as an N. What’s your prediction for CA covid over the next 2 months? My Dec prediction was decline starting early/mid Jan, resulting in first legal games in March.
Care to out a stake in the sand?
Then we (almost) agree. My position is the level of fraud was likely not close to sufficiently change the outcome of the election, put given the methodology in Pennsylvania what happened in that particular state is hard to tell, particularly in the absence of any wide spread nonpartisan investigation.
My eye has been more on the data in SoCal. I predicted a peak at Christmas (I was off by 2 weeks...the peak was a couple days after New Years...my friend, though nailed it and I owe him a beer when this is over). I agree with the decline and that we should be in a position to play by March (though I lean more towards the end). The big unknown variable is the Johnson & Johnson vaccine and how quickly it gets approved and how much we have on hand....if all goes well it will be a game changer.
Two caveats, however. One is the data coming out of Israel. Despite the vast number of people who have gotten stuck (25%) have received the first shot), the numbers remain stubbornly high. The most likely explanation is the unique behaviors of the Orthodox community, but still I'm surprised it hasn't declined faster (for whatever other reasons...new variants etc.). It indicates the herd immunity threshold must be every high at a minimum.
The other caveat is that this decision has always been more political than about the data. Rumors are new modifications to the sports guidance out soon. If true, you and VC might be playing by late March (it will also take a few weeks to gear up conditioning)....but not LA County. The question, though, is a political question (not a data one) and it's hard to know how Newsom (now that he's behaving like a scared cat) will jump.
If you have a segregated society, you need to do your herd immunity calculations separately. Double that if one side or the other of the split refuses vaccination or other mitigation measures. Orthodox congregations in New York seem to fit this pattern. I would be surprised if it were not similar in Israel. You may have a moderate herd immunity threshhold, but a self-segregated population acting as a disease reservoir.
I still think LA will get there quickly, but for a bad reason. You’re already at 10% confirmed infections. For a large fraction of your social interactions, one side or the other is at least temporarily immune. That should make your decline relatively fast.
As always, unless people decide to be stupid. If people decide masks are useless and indoor dining is a necessity, you will slow your recovery.
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Agreed until the final sentence. The last will have minimum impact as there are larger drivers at work here, including the ones you point out.
Me: "Look out for that turn, you're going to turn onto the roller coaster, it's headed straight for you, watch out!"
You: "Roadhog!!!"
Oh and I agree that LA "will get there quickly" but even then LA County may not allow play. There's already talk that LA Schools will be restricted until at least 2022 when they can take off the EU label off the vaccines and mandate it for kids. It's a political, not data, question.
q.e.d. (continued from yesterday)