President Joe Biden

Grace T. said:
If true, then the other possibility is twitter signs its death warrant because the left will pull out as well leaving only mainstream and promotional partners. I hope your right and it's possible that the right is just getting the attention because of Trump's ban. My gut tells me you aren't, but we'll see.
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The Hunter Biden story was the one that Trump got recorded telling the President of Ukraine he would cut off US Aid if they didn't find a way to order the arrest of Biden's son right? Hmmm... got to tell you, it wasn't so much that I wasn't aware the story was there as much as I could be bothered to actually follow it. Regardless of what Facebook told me to do one way or the other.
 
Grace T. said:
Not at all. But for comparison twitter is still allowing not only PRC accounts but also Antifa accounts inciting violence in Portland. If anything I'm strongly opposed to siloing and greatly think the fall of the nightly news and the impartiality of the mainstream media (which may have been a chimera but at least existed on its face) was a great loss.

What may happen now if Twitter continues to push this is that figures like Ben Shapiro, Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham, etc. may push out. If that happens it's going to be a great tragedy for the nation because I don't like echo chambers.

And yes, twitter and the main stream media did suppress the Hunter Biden story.
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One of the fundamental problems at the moment, IMV, is the existing echo chambers, both in what people will only tune into, e.g. only watch Fox News and nothing else vs only MSNBC and nothing else, and the social media algorithms which push like content to you, hence reinforcing views and making people "think" that all the new content is just appearing and just happens to reinforce their already entrenched positions.

No idea what Twitter is doing at the moment. I look at it rarely and rely on it for nothing news wise, so its just a 'meh' from me. It could vanish tomorrow and would have zero impact.
 
tenacious said:
The Hunter Biden story was the one that Trump got recorded telling the President of Ukraine he would cut off US Aide if they didn't find a way to order the arrest of Biden's son right? Hmmm... got to tell you, it wasn't so much that I wasn't aware the story was there as much as I could be bothered to actually follow it. Regardless of what Facebook told me to do one way or the other.
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Nah the one where Hunter Biden got a Burisma board position for no reason or experience, where he had business dealings with China despite the lack of experience, and where allusions were made by the Biden family that Joe Biden was involved and aware, including by their former business partner and the recovered laptop.
 
whatithink said:
One of the fundamental problems at the moment, IMV, is the existing echo chambers, both in what people will only tune into, e.g. only watch Fox News and nothing else vs only MSNBC and nothing else, and the social media algorithms which push like content to you, hence reinforcing views and making people "think" that all the new content is just appearing and just happens to reinforce their already entrenched positions.

No idea what Twitter is doing at the moment. I look at it rarely and rely on it for nothing news wise, so its just a 'meh' from me. It could vanish tomorrow and would have zero impact.
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I like your comment but it's clear you still watch television. :D I don't....too slow of means to hand out info.
 
Not even sure if this is true, (with Twitter you never know,) but there is a story floating that one of the men who died "tazed his testicles to death". Meaning, he had a tazer in his pocket that accidentally tazed his testicles causing a heart attack.

Again, not sure if it's true. But if it is- WTH!
 
Grace T. said:
Nah the one where Hunter Biden got a Burisma board position for no reason or experience, where he had business dealings with China despite the lack of experience, and where allusions were made by the Biden family that Joe Biden was involved and aware, including by their former business partner and the recovered laptop.
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Qanon. Does anyone wonder why the Hunter Biden laptop story went nowhere? Because it was so ridiculously fake and made up that no one other than Q disciples lome Grace-Karen believe it.
 
Grace T. said:
If true, then the other possibility is twitter signs its death warrant because the left will pull out as well leaving only mainstream and promotional partners. I hope your right and it's possible that the right is just getting the attention because of Trump's ban. My gut tells me you aren't, but we'll see.
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Parler is going to have to confront a few things:

- They're going to have to deal with the fact that these platforms have to confront censorship at some point. Twitter historically pushed back big time on requests from government agencies (not just the US) to remove accounts, etc. Parler will be no different.

- They have no monetization. It costs a lot of money to run this kind of platform. Right now their traffic is pretty low, so it's probably not a huge issue. The only people going there are the crazies and people that want to watch the crazies.

- They need to have engineering expertise to run a platform like this at scale. Most people in Tech would have no interest in working at Parler.

Not saying they can't make it happen, but the chips are stacked against them. My prediction is Parler folds in 2 years. Everyone relaxes and gets used to Biden as president.
 
NorCalDad said:
Not saying they can't make it happen, but the chips are stacked against them. My prediction is Parler folds in 2 years. Everyone relaxes and gets used to Biden as president.
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Parler depends on what twitter does and how far they go. Banning Trump is a Rubicon that even some anti-Trumpists or some of those disgusted with Trump's behavior (like myself) can't support. If not Parler, it will be a different app. Conservative thinkers like Ben Shapiro have been circling around creating different conservative silos to engage in the cultural war....some things like movies and universities are harder to recreate due to structural impediments in the markets. At least with Parler, they have a platform up and running, but I do agree they'll be challenges with respect to Parler's own structure. This does feel like a watershed event to me, though, and my gut has generally been right about these things. It's another step forward towards separation, and like I've been arguing Trump is the dam not the river (things don't get better because Trump goes away and if Biden is thinking that way it sets him up for failure).

Biden has some very deep structural issues, including foundations in the economy which are very weak as the result of the pandemic, which he is facing. He will either go down as one of our greatest presidents, or his term will be ...what's the word...Buchananesque....he has to be Lincoln or he'll end up being Buchanan. Given his own physical and mental limitations, and the fact his allies don't seem to be doing him any tactical favors, I'm not particularly hopeful.
 
Grace T. said:
Parler depends on what twitter does and how far they go. Banning Trump is a Rubicon that even some anti-Trumpists or some of those disgusted with Trump's behavior (like myself) can't support. If not Parler, it will be a different app. Conservative thinkers like Ben Shapiro have been circling around creating different conservative silos to engage in the cultural war....some things like movies and universities are harder to recreate due to structural impediments in the markets. At least with Parler, they have a platform up and running, but I do agree they'll be challenges with respect to Parler's own structure. This does feel like a watershed event to me, though, and my gut has generally been right about these things. It's another step forward towards separation, and like I've been arguing Trump is the dam not the river (things don't get better because Trump goes away and if Biden is thinking that way it sets him up for failure).

Biden has some very deep structural issues, including foundations in the economy which are very weak as the result of the pandemic, which he is facing. He will either go down as one of our greatest presidents, or his term will be ...what's the word...Buchananesque....he has to be Lincoln or he'll end up being Buchanan. Given his own physical and mental limitations, and the fact his allies don't seem to be doing him any tactical favors, I'm not particularly hopeful.
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Ben Shapiro :)

Let's check back in 2 years. My gut is pretty good on predicting these things as well. My prediction is that Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram will still be the predominate social media platforms. Anything beyond that will be fringe. Parler will be gone as well.
 
NorCalDad said:
Ben Shapiro :)
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Ben's an acquaintance. Daily Wire has done very well despite the cancel culture advertising. Ben recently moved out of California to Nashville.

One of the keys to be able to predict what happens next is you've got to check your sources and not be siloed. If you can only see the one partisan side, the only way you can get it right is if your side wins unconditionally. If that's what you are arguing, you are wrong. We are more likely to be in a shooting civil war than the Trumpists going away...they aren't, they won't.
 
Grace T. said:
Ben's an acquaintance. Daily Wire has done very well despite the cancel culture advertising. Ben recently moved out of California to Nashville.

One of the keys to be able to predict what happens next is you've got to check your sources and not be siloed. If you can only see the one partisan side, the only way you can get it right is if your side wins unconditionally. If that's what you are arguing, you are wrong. We are more likely to be in a shooting civil war than the Trumpists going away...they aren't, they won't.
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Ben Shapiro is a douche. Feel free in relaying that to him :)

Like I said, let's check back in 2 years.
 
Grace T. said:
Ben's an acquaintance. Daily Wire has done very well despite the cancel culture advertising. Ben recently moved out of California to Nashville.

One of the keys to be able to predict what happens next is you've got to check your sources and not be siloed. If you can only see the one partisan side, the only way you can get it right is if your side wins unconditionally. If that's what you are arguing, you are wrong. We are more likely to be in a shooting civil war than the Trumpists going away...they aren't, they won't.
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To me, if you look at the Trumpers as a symptom... it's represents the angst of middle class America in the time of globalization. So far the elites have been able to ignore those being left behind with the outsourcing of middle class union manufacturing jobs. But soon if they want to keep using America as a stable base to do business they are going to have to make it work with the locals. Or as you say... the Trumpists, the BLM and all the riots ain't going away.
 
Grace T. said:
Parler depends on what twitter does and how far they go. Banning Trump is a Rubicon that even some anti-Trumpists or some of those disgusted with Trump's behavior (like myself) can't support. If not Parler, it will be a different app. Conservative thinkers like Ben Shapiro have been circling around creating different conservative silos to engage in the cultural war....some things like movies and universities are harder to recreate due to structural impediments in the markets. At least with Parler, they have a platform up and running, but I do agree they'll be challenges with respect to Parler's own structure. This does feel like a watershed event to me, though, and my gut has generally been right about these things. It's another step forward towards separation, and like I've been arguing Trump is the dam not the river (things don't get better because Trump goes away and if Biden is thinking that way it sets him up for failure).

Biden has some very deep structural issues, including foundations in the economy which are very weak as the result of the pandemic, which he is facing. He will either go down as one of our greatest presidents, or his term will be ...what's the word...Buchananesque....he has to be Lincoln or he'll end up being Buchanan. Given his own physical and mental limitations, and the fact his allies don't seem to be doing him any tactical favors, I'm not particularly hopeful.
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Has anyone else noticed how magats and their apologists completely skip over whether the Cheesepuff in Chief’s Twitter posts are presidential, or remotely accurate, or even the the bare minimum in civility? Instead, they move straight to whether his abhorrent statements were so grossly vile as to merit Twitter kicking him out? And then frame Twitter as the bad guy, although the guy being banned is inciting violence and trying to tear down democracy.
 
tenacious said:
To me, if you look at the Trumpers as a symptom... it's represents the angst of middle class America in the time of globalization. So far the elites have been able to ignore those being left behind with the outsourcing of middle class union manufacturing jobs. But soon if they want to keep using America as a stable base to do business they are going to have to make it work with the locals. Or as you say... the Trumpists, the BLM and all the riots ain't going away.
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Yeah, which is another weight against Biden. He's neck deep in that world. Hopefully, though, he still remembers his working class roots and can thread the needle with both.

Google apps just removed parler.
 
Grace T. said:
Parler depends on what twitter does and how far they go. Banning Trump is a Rubicon that even some anti-Trumpists or some of those disgusted with Trump's behavior (like myself) can't support. If not Parler, it will be a different app. Conservative thinkers like Ben Shapiro have been circling around creating different conservative silos to engage in the cultural war....some things like movies and universities are harder to recreate due to structural impediments in the markets. At least with Parler, they have a platform up and running, but I do agree they'll be challenges with respect to Parler's own structure. This does feel like a watershed event to me, though, and my gut has generally been right about these things. It's another step forward towards separation, and like I've been arguing Trump is the dam not the river (things don't get better because Trump goes away and if Biden is thinking that way it sets him up for failure).

Biden has some very deep structural issues, including foundations in the economy which are very weak as the result of the pandemic, which he is facing. He will either go down as one of our greatest presidents, or his term will be ...what's the word...Buchananesque....he has to be Lincoln or he'll end up being Buchanan. Given his own physical and mental limitations, and the fact his allies don't seem to be doing him any tactical favors, I'm not particularly hopeful.
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Wrong. Parler depends on what Apple does to them. God you are so dumb. Apple clicks a button and it’s over for those seditionists. And it looks very much like it’s gonna happen.
 
Grace T. said:
Yeah, which is another weight against Biden. He's neck deep in that world. Hopefully, though, he still remembers his working class roots and can thread the needle with both.

Google apps just removed parler.
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I definitely share your concerns around Biden. He definitely wasn't my first pick.

One thing that he has in his behavior is covid could be on its way out (yeah, I know there's a lot there). If in 6-9 months people's lives go back to normal, he's going to be looking pretty good. Hopefully from there he can focus on the worker and not start any wars. We shall see.
 
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