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espola said:
The timing of the lawsuits looked like a June surprise ahead of the Republican convention, but I haven't heard that it has been dismissed or withdrawn yet.

Donald is vulnerable to such lawsuits because of his admitted past. He is the only Presidential candidate in my lifetime who has boasted his sexual prowess in his own biographical statements. Google "Trump my personal Vietnam" - if the results don't offend you, you should look deep down in your soul and ask yourself why not.
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I agree.
He should have called it his, "Bay of Pigs".
 
Bernie Sanders said:
Its not a surprise. The story has been out there, just not really picked up.
I think there must be a hole in it.
Maybe some of the bigwigs in commie cablevision were at the same parties.
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I always have believed that Donald is Bill's present to Hillary.
If Bill has to beg forgiveness for his bad ways of earlier to torpedo Donald with tales of partnered debauchery, I could see him do it to get his wife elected.
 
espola said:
You willingly post stuff without caring whether or not it is true?

On second thought, that is not a surprise.
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I posted it with a disclaimer.
Something you should probably do on a regular basis....

Perhaps someone with time on their retired hands could confirm or deny what is claimed.
If you have specifics we would all be grateful espola.
Thanks in advance, you are the best.
 
Lion Eyes said:
I posted it with a disclaimer.
Something you should probably do on a regular basis....

Perhaps someone with time on their retired hands could confirm or deny what is claimed.
If you have specifics we would all be grateful espola.
Thanks in advance, you are the best.
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What was the source?
 
Andy Dukes said:
The key word is state. A member of the United Nations. Not a criminal organization.

Many in the world think the USA is a terrorist state.
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The key word is terrorism.



By Ryan Browne, CNN
June 2, 2016
Washington (CNN)The State Department on Thursday released its annual report on global terrorist activity, listing Iran as the top state sponsor of terrorism and labeling ISIS "the greatest threat globally."
Iran is one of three listed state sponsors of terrorism, the others being Syria and Sudan.
Secretary of State John Kerry admitted in January that some of the money made available to Iran by the removal of sanctions would "end up in the hands of the IRGC or other entities, some of which are labeled terrorists," referring to Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps.

Care to share who the "many in the world" are that think of us as terrorists?
 
Lion Eyes said:
The key word is terrorism.



By Ryan Browne, CNN
June 2, 2016
Washington (CNN)The State Department on Thursday released its annual report on global terrorist activity, listing Iran as the top state sponsor of terrorism and labeling ISIS "the greatest threat globally."
Iran is one of three listed state sponsors of terrorism, the others being Syria and Sudan.
Secretary of State John Kerry admitted in January that some of the money made available to Iran by the removal of sanctions would "end up in the hands of the IRGC or other entities, some of which are labeled terrorists," referring to Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps.

Care to share who the "many in the world" are that think of us as terrorists?
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I imagine the folks in Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan and their supporters consider drone strikes that kill civilians acts of terrorism.
 


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Lion Eyes said:
The key word is terrorism.



By Ryan Browne, CNN
June 2, 2016
Washington (CNN)The State Department on Thursday released its annual report on global terrorist activity, listing Iran as the top state sponsor of terrorism and labeling ISIS "the greatest threat globally."
Iran is one of three listed state sponsors of terrorism, the others being Syria and Sudan.
Secretary of State John Kerry admitted in January that some of the money made available to Iran by the removal of sanctions would "end up in the hands of the IRGC or other entities, some of which are labeled terrorists," referring to Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps.

Care to share who the "many in the world" are that think of us as terrorists?
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The same folks in the State Department who labeled them the top sponsor of terrorism are the same ones who authorized the release of the held Iranian funds.
 
Andy Dukes said:
I imagine the folks in Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan and their supporters consider drone strikes that kill civilians acts of terrorism.
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What do all three countries have in common?
Terrorists.
I imagine the civilians being raped, killed and enslaved by folks like ISIS consider those acts of terrorism.
These terrorists like to line folks up and shoot them one by one or cut their throats.
Let's not forget the little one's shooting hostages in the back of the head that was posted earlier...
 
Andy Dukes said:
The same folks in the State Department who labeled them the top sponsor of terrorism are the same ones who authorized the release of the held Iranian funds.
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Lion Eyes said:
What do all three countries have in common?
Terrorists.
I imagine the civilians being raped, killed and enslaved by folks like ISIS consider those acts of terrorism.
These terrorists like to line folks up and shoot them one by one or cut their throats.
Let's not forget the little one's shooting hostages in the back of the head that was posted earlier...
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One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. It is an old cliche but also true.

We can not fix all the world's ills. We can influence, demand, scold and some times kill but unless you think we have the moral authority to exterminate you better be okay with the occasional negotiated terms.
 
Andy Dukes said:
One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. It is an old cliche but also true.

We can not fix all the world's ills. We can influence, demand, scold and some times kill but unless you think we have the moral authority to exterminate you better be okay with the occasional negotiated terms.
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If we don't fight these "freedom fighters" over there we will be fighting them in the streets of Europe and America...another old cliché but true.
Tell me, how do you negotiate with people who support the training, funding & arming of terrorists, who line people up and cut their throats or burn them alive or worse?
Going back in history, when has negotiating with terrorists, lunatics or fanatics worked out in the long run?
As far as moral authority goes, what morals do terrorists possess?
 
Lion Eyes said:
If we don't fight these "freedom fighters" over there we will be fighting them in the streets of Europe and America...another old cliché but true.
Tell me, how do you negotiate with people who support the training, funding & arming of terrorists, who line people up and cut their throats or burn them alive or worse?
Going back in history, when has negotiating with terrorists, lunatics or fanatics worked out in the long run?
As far as moral authority goes, what morals do terrorists possess?
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I don't live in Europe and I don't see the streets of LA being more dangerous than they already are.

What do local governments have authority over? Moral or otherwise?
 
Bernie Sanders said:
I dont know where you're going with this.
Is it going to end up like your Bill and Hillary theory?
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Where can you go? Lion just keeps talking tough about not using diplomacy and fighting terrorists "over there" and implies we should just keep hoping sanctions against Iran lead to some magical place where they don't hate us and want to kill us, all the while, implicitly saying we should be conquering them instead of negotiating with them, yet has no actual plan to do anything, which is the problem with all the "tough talking" conservatives...
 
Andy Dukes said:
I don't live in Europe and I don't see the streets of LA being more dangerous than they already are.

What do local governments have authority over? Moral or otherwise?
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Twin Towers...9/11?
San Bernardino ring any bells?
Before during and after this "historic" agreement with Iran, the official Iranian motto has not changed, "Death to America"
 
Wez said:
Where can you go? Lion just keeps talking tough about not using diplomacy and fighting terrorists "over there" and implies we should just keep hoping sanctions against Iran lead to some magical place where they don't hate us and want to kill us, all the while, implicitly saying we should be conquering them instead of negotiating with them, yet has no actual plan to do anything, which is the problem with all the "tough talking" conservatives...
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Hoping is what this agreement is.
Neville Chamberlain negotiated with a terrorists state run by madmen & came back and declared: "Peace for Our Time"
"We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again."
How'd that turn out?
The "tough talking conservative" didn't declared victory in Iraq and then haul ass.
They did not brush ISIS aside and declare them the "JV team".
They didn't draw lines in the sand regarding the use of gas only to ignore it & empower the regime responsible.
They didn't support the overthrow of Gadhafi opening the door for the "jv team"

We are fighting people who would kill everyone on this soccer site if given the chance.

Have been watching the Today Show rerun of 9/11 on MSNBC.
15 years ago I watched it live...it was unbelievable then.
Watching it today it still was....
 
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