Ponderable

Wez said:
It doesn't matter what you think, have you ignored what I posted. You are so wrapped up in partisan hate, you have lost the ability to measure each event on a case by case basis.

The merits of the deal are not judged by whether Iran gets nukes or not. "If" they want nukes, they will get them, regardless of how we feel about that. Unless you want our military to attack and wage yet another war, all we are left with is how can we exercise some level of transparency, verification and delay in how quickly they get their nukes.

Wake the fuck up Lion, attack Iran or use diplomacy, that's all we have.
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Hate?
Muahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..take the Pamprin and a Mydol
We had sanctions against Iran that worked just fine..
The President tells us what a deal it is....that we are safer because Iran won't have nukes...
Then you say it doesn't matter if Iran has nukes...
What we did was make a terrorist state stronger...we have enabled them to fund more terrorism.
They now mock the President by annoying our Navy and test firing ballistic missiles
Iran test-fired two ballistic missiles Wednesday, state media reported, just a day after other missile tests that Washington suggests were in violation of a U.N. resolution.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/09/middleeast/iran-missile-test/index.html

Perhaps it is you that needs to wake the "f" up Candy
Enough said.

Hate is a very strong word and certainly takes way to much time and energy. I have neither the time or energy to waste on hate.
Perhaps you might take a deep breath and exhale slowly.
You're gonna pop a gasket son.
 
This was emailed to me.
I don't know how accurate these statistics are.
I'm sure one of our more progressive members will research the claims and refute those that are refutable.
I post this with no ill will or hate for anyone....


1.
California
New Mexico
Mississippi
Alabama
Illinois
Kentucky
Ohio
New York
Maine
South Carolina
These 11 States now have More People on Welfare than they do Employed!

2.
Last month, the Senate Budget Committee reports that in fiscal year 2012,
between food stamps,
housing support,
child care,
Medicaid and other benefits,
the average U.S. Household below the poverty line received $168.00 a day in government support.

What's the problem with that much support?
Well, the median household income in America is just over $50,000, which averages out to $137.13 a day.

To put it another way, being on welfare now pays the equivalent of $30.00 an hour for 40 hour week, while the average job pays $24.00 an hour.

3.
A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article provided statistics from a survey by the United Nations International Health Organization:
Percentage (%) of men and women who survived a cancer five years after diagnosis:
U.S. 65%
England 46%
Canada 42%
Percentage (%) of patients diagnosed with diabetes - received treatment within 6 months:
U.S. 93%
England 15%
Canada 43%

Percentage (%) of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six months:
U.S. 90%
England 15%
Canada 43%

Percentage (%) referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:
U.S. 77%
England 40%
Canada 43%

Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:
U.S. 71
England 14
Canada 18

Percentage (%) of seniors (65+), with low income, who are in "excellent health":
U.S. 12%
England 2%
Canada 6%

And now… for the last statistic:
National Health Insurance?
U.S. NO
England YES
Canada YES

4.
Check the last set of statistics!!

The percentage of each past president's cabinet...
who had worked in the private business sector...
prior to their appointment to the cabinet.

You know what the private business sector is:
A real-life business... not a government job.
Here are the percentages:
38% T. Roosevelt
40% Taft
52% Wilson
49% Harding
48% Coolidge
42% Hoover
50% F. D. Roosevelt
50% Truman
57% Eisenhower
30% Kennedy
47% Johnson
53% Nixon
42% Ford
32% Carter
56% Reagan
51% GH Bush
39% Clinton
55% GW Bush
8% Obama


 
Lion Eyes said:
This was emailed to me.
I don't know how accurate these statistics are.
I'm sure one of our more progressive members will research the claims and refute those that are refutable.
I post this with no ill will or hate for anyone....


1.
California
New Mexico
Mississippi
Alabama
Illinois
Kentucky
Ohio
New York
Maine
South Carolina
These 11 States now have More People on Welfare than they do Employed!

2.
Last month, the Senate Budget Committee reports that in fiscal year 2012,
between food stamps,
housing support,
child care,
Medicaid and other benefits,
the average U.S. Household below the poverty line received $168.00 a day in government support.

What's the problem with that much support?
Well, the median household income in America is just over $50,000, which averages out to $137.13 a day.

To put it another way, being on welfare now pays the equivalent of $30.00 an hour for 40 hour week, while the average job pays $24.00 an hour.

3.
A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article provided statistics from a survey by the United Nations International Health Organization:
Percentage (%) of men and women who survived a cancer five years after diagnosis:
U.S. 65%
England 46%
Canada 42%
Percentage (%) of patients diagnosed with diabetes - received treatment within 6 months:
U.S. 93%
England 15%
Canada 43%

Percentage (%) of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six months:
U.S. 90%
England 15%
Canada 43%

Percentage (%) referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:
U.S. 77%
England 40%
Canada 43%

Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:
U.S. 71
England 14
Canada 18

Percentage (%) of seniors (65+), with low income, who are in "excellent health":
U.S. 12%
England 2%
Canada 6%

And now… for the last statistic:
National Health Insurance?
U.S. NO
England YES
Canada YES

4.
Check the last set of statistics!!

The percentage of each past president's cabinet...
who had worked in the private business sector...
prior to their appointment to the cabinet.

You know what the private business sector is:
A real-life business... not a government job.
Here are the percentages:
38% T. Roosevelt
40% Taft
52% Wilson
49% Harding
48% Coolidge
42% Hoover
50% F. D. Roosevelt
50% Truman
57% Eisenhower
30% Kennedy
47% Johnson
53% Nixon
42% Ford
32% Carter
56% Reagan
51% GH Bush
39% Clinton
55% GW Bush
8% Obama
This helps explain the bias, if not the incompetence, of this current administration:
ONLY 8% of them... have ever worked in private business! That's right!
Only eight percent - the least, by far, of the last 19 presidents!

And these people are trying to tell our corporations how to run their business?

How can the president of a major nation and society,
the one with the most successful economic system in world history,
stand and talk about business when he's never worked for one?
Or about jobs when he has never really had one?
And, when it's the same for 92% of his senior staff and closest advisers?
They've spent most of their time in academia, government, and/or non-profit jobs or as "community organizers."
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Do you consider Medicare and SS as welfare?
 
Andy Dukes said:
Do you consider Medicare and SS as welfare?
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Medicare provides health insurance for Americans aged 65 and older who have worked and paid into the system through the payroll tax.

"The Health Insurance Association of America describes Medicaid as a "government insurance program for persons of all ages whose income and resources are insufficient to pay for health care".

Social Security is funded through payroll taxes up to a specified amount.
 
Lion Eyes said:
This was emailed to me.
I don't know how accurate these statistics are.
I'm sure one of our more progressive members will research the claims and refute those that are refutable.
I post this with no ill will or hate for anyone....
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You willingly post stuff without caring whether or not it is true?

On second thought, that is not a surprise.
 
Lion Eyes said:
Medicare provides health insurance for Americans aged 65 and older who have worked and paid into the system through the payroll tax.

"The Health Insurance Association of America describes Medicaid as a "government insurance program for persons of all ages whose income and resources are insufficient to pay for health care".

Social Security is funded through payroll taxes up to a specified amount.
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Kellyanne,

I asked a simple question about your opinion. Should I take your answer as no, you don't consider those two welfare?
 
espola said:
This lawsuit was dismissed by a judge in California because of lack of jurisdiction. The plaintiff then refiled in New York,

https://www.scribd.com/doc/310835987/Donald-Trump-Lawsuit
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Yuck.

It is clear the company you keep says a lot about you.

"I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,'' Trump booms from a speakerphone. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life."


Billionaire Pedophile Goes Free

Meanwhile, Epstein has settled more than a dozen lawsuits brought by the underage girls who were recruited to perform “massages” at his Palm Beach mansion. Seven victims reached a last-minute deal last week, days before a scheduled trial; each received well over $1 million—an amount that will hardly dent Epstein’s $2 billion net worth.
 
Andy Dukes said:
Yuck.

It is clear the company you keep says a lot about you.

"I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,'' Trump booms from a speakerphone. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life."


Billionaire Pedophile Goes Free

Meanwhile, Epstein has settled more than a dozen lawsuits brought by the underage girls who were recruited to perform “massages” at his Palm Beach mansion. Seven victims reached a last-minute deal last week, days before a scheduled trial; each received well over $1 million—an amount that will hardly dent Epstein’s $2 billion net worth.
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Is this the same guy who has the private Island where Bill Clinton kept his duck boat?
Why is MSNBC and CNN not all over this?
 
Andy Dukes said:
I agree. This is something that anyone voting for the Donald or Bill should know about.
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So it is the same guy?
This makes me ponder why MSNBC and CNN are not running it 24-7.
This is the kind of thing that those networks salivate over.
If I were to venture a guess, I would say there's something about the story that falls apart, and they know it.
 
Bernie Sanders said:
So it is the same guy?
This makes me ponder why MSNBC and CNN are not running it 24-7.
This is the kind of thing that those networks salivate over.
If I were to venture a guess, I would say there's something about the story that falls apart, and they know it.
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Same guy. Maybe October surprise?
 
Andy Dukes said:
Same guy. Maybe October surprise?
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The timing of the lawsuits looked like a June surprise ahead of the Republican convention, but I haven't heard that it has been dismissed or withdrawn yet.

Donald is vulnerable to such lawsuits because of his admitted past. He is the only Presidential candidate in my lifetime who has boasted his sexual prowess in his own biographical statements. Google "Trump my personal Vietnam" - if the results don't offend you, you should look deep down in your soul and ask yourself why not.
 
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