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I personally think the EPA should continue to run roughshod over anyone they deem a threat.
 
Today's "good guy with a gun" story...

http://jezebel.com/a-woman-was-fata...source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

"According to Police Chief Thomas Lewis, the demonstration was intended to teach the class best practices in “using simulated lethal force.”

Knowlton was accidentally struck with a live round. She was taken to Lee Memorial Hospital where she was pronounced dead shortly thereafter.

Lewis has since called the incident, which occurred August 9, a “horrible accident.”

"Accident" my ass, more guns, more gun deaths.
 
Wez said:
Today's "good guy with a gun" story...

http://jezebel.com/a-woman-was-fata...source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

"According to Police Chief Thomas Lewis, the demonstration was intended to teach the class best practices in “using simulated lethal force.”

Knowlton was accidentally struck with a live round. She was taken to Lee Memorial Hospital where she was pronounced dead shortly thereafter.

Lewis has since called the incident, which occurred August 9, a “horrible accident.”

"Accident" my ass, more guns, more gun deaths.
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Want to get around the constitution?
Let the EPA take charge.
 
"Between 1955 and 1975, the Vietnam War killed over 58,000 American soldiers – less than the number of civilians killed with guns in the U.S. in an average two-year period.

In the first seven years of the U.S.-Iraq War, over 4,400 American soldiers were killed. Almost as many civilians are killed with guns in the U.S., however, every seven weeks.

On average, states with the highest gun levels had nine times the rate of unintentional firearms deaths compared to states with the lowest gun levels."
 
Wez said:
And your point is? More guns, more gun deaths. 300mil guns in the US, 1% accident rate = a lot of unnecessary deaths.
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What price is freedom?
Parts of the constitution is so f'n annoying.


All accidental deaths should be outlawed.
Here are the top five causes of accidental death in the USA

1)Motor Vehicle Incidents (42,000 annual deaths)

2)Poisoning (39,000 annual deaths)

3)Falls (25,000 annual deaths)

4)Fires (2,700 annual deaths)

5)Choking (Approximately 2,500 deaths per year)

Accidental drowning cause another 2000 deaths per year
Accidental shootings cause 600 deaths per year.
http://listosaur.com/miscellaneous/top-5-causes-of-accidental-death-in-the-united-states/

Be careful out their, especially on your way to and from the soccer pitch.
 
Difference is, accidental gun deaths are mostly unnecessary. You gotta drive, gotta eat, gotta walk around, etc.
 
espola said:
As I said already, the whole story is not what was printed in the paper or the PLF press release. How do you think EPA and Corps of Engineers got wind of Johnson's dam? The only people who had any way to know about it are his neighbors - think about it.

Folks' claims on the Colorado are based on how much water there is in the river, from flow measured at points just above the big reservoirs, or by measuring the level of Lake Mead. Arizona and California get a lot less than they could use, because that's all there is, especially during the current drought. About a month ago, Lake Mead reached the lowest level it has seen since it was filled in the 30's.
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Thanks, the water rights of the Colorado River are well known Magoo. We are talking about a stock pond in Wyoming.
Perhaps the entire story hasn't been printed in the paper, but you are more than willing to speculate and tell the story as you imagine it to be.
The known facts remain, the pond stays, the EPA goes back to DC and no fines or penalties are administered, a few trees get planted and temporary fence is put into place.
 
Wez said:
Difference is, accidental gun deaths are mostly unnecessary. You gotta drive, gotta eat, gotta walk around, etc.
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You can't legislate accidents away.
The facts are your way more likely to die driving to a soccer tournament, choking on a Jersey Mikes sub or falling down the stairs at the tournament hotel.
All accidental deaths are unnecessary, unintended, unplanned....
 
Lion Eyes said:
Thanks, the water rights of the Colorado River are well known Magoo. We are talking about a stock pond in Wyoming.
Perhaps the entire story hasn't been printed in the paper, but you are more than willing to speculate and tell the story as you imagine it to be.
The known facts remain, the pond stays, the EPA goes back to DC and no fines or penalties are administered, a few trees get planted and temporary fence is put into place.
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I labeled my speculations as such. I haven't even posted the most outrageous and funny stories that have come to mind - how the EPA found out abut the dam by studying satellite photos; how an EPA deputy convinced a horseback posse of neighbors armed with six-shooters and dynamite, intent on removing the threat to their crops and livestock, to return home peacefully; how the PLF convinced the neighbors to withdraw their complaints about Johnson's water grab; et cetera, etc, etc.

I confined my comments to reliable sources, and it looks like from your last post that you have trimmed down your claims to what can be established by the legal documents as well. Good for you.
 
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Lion Eyes said:
You can't legislate accidents away.
The facts are your way more likely to die driving to a soccer tournament, choking on a Jersey Mikes sub or falling down the stairs at the tournament hotel.
All accidental deaths are unnecessary, unintended, unplanned....
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Accidental deaths in cars have been reduced by legal and technical improvements to vehicles and highway. Improvements to the building codes for stairs have made them safer. I don't know of any safety regulations for Jersey Mike subs - maybe there is an amendment that protects them.
 
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Wez said:
"Between 1955 and 1975, the Vietnam War killed over 58,000 American soldiers – less than the number of civilians killed with guns in the U.S. in an average two-year period.

In the first seven years of the U.S.-Iraq War, over 4,400 American soldiers were killed. Almost as many civilians are killed with guns in the U.S., however, every seven weeks.

On average, states with the highest gun levels had nine times the rate of unintentional firearms deaths compared to states with the lowest gun levels."
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Link Please.
 
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