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xav10 said:
I am not such a lib when it comes to assimilation, however. I believe that's a necessity. Multi-racial, multi-national, multi-sexual...all cool...but I believe we should share a common American culture and language (but excluding Guy Fieri's food). The Swiss model is actually kind of interesting, where you have to bring friends and neighbors and other school parents to the hearing to show that you're assimilating with the Swiss, if you want to stick around.
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In many ancient cultures they would bring outsiders into the fold and after a couple generations you couldn't one from the other, but again that was when it was few here a few there. Now it's half a country that needs to flee . . . with Russia on one side and the US on the other. Tricky, tricky, tricky . . .
 
Bernie Sanders said:
Your boss is an American.
Its up to him, if he wants his employees to assimilate on the job.

I have seen too many workers kept from learning the language of our country through the same derogatory system.

I have a guy who works for me who has been here for thirty years, and nobody ever spoke English with him on the job.
He's finally learning.
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He speaks to them in Spanish and me in English, it works. I believe our union was offering English classes, but quit due to lack of enrollment. Spanish is the first language of construction these days. When I first started they had to learn English.
 
xav10 said:
The lowest paid are clerical. One is a mom so she works from home 2 days per week. My rent would be a lot higher, but if I'm rich enough to be a building-owning landlord, I should surely pay a fair amount to the companies or workers that maintain the premises. Cesar Chavez fought those wars for the farm workers, didn't he?
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You pay someone $65,000 a year to work two days a week in a clerical position?
 
Bernie Sanders said:
Your boss is an American.
Its up to him, if he wants his employees to assimilate on the job.

I have seen too many workers kept from learning the language of our country through the same derogatory system.

I have a guy who works for me who has been here for thirty years, and nobody ever spoke English with him on the job.
He's finally learning.
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Is "derogatory" the word you want?
 
Hüsker Dü said:
He, as he has been told to, sees wages as unnecessary burdens on employers, hence "taxes" in his cultures parlance. The, "eliminate the minimum wage" people think that would cure all our problems, or so they are told.
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The only thing that minimum wage eliminates is the employee and employers right to negotiate a labor contract that they both agree on.
 
Bruddah IZ said:
The only thing that minimum wage eliminates is the employee and employers right to negotiate a labor contract that they both agree on.
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Yeah, right, that's what they tell you. Think for yourself once in awhile . . . how many people would want to negotiate down from minimum wage? There is of course the "under the table" agreement circumventing any benefits, SS, taxes, etc.
 
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