Ponderable

espola said:
I don't really know how old you are, but PQ Lagoon has been connected to the ocean off and on since I first saw it 1972 when I biked down from my apartment in Clairemont. Sometimes with the right combinations of storm and rainfall, a sandbar will cut off the lagoon from the ocean except for big waves at high tide. When winter rains raise the level of the lagoon almost high enough to flood out Carmel Valley Road, water will flood over the sandbar and wash it out in about 2 hours, after which tidal flushing is restored until the next sandbar is deposited.
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Ignoramus.
 
Andy Dukes said:
Listening to Repub House members blaming the liberal media for the Montana body slam.

Unfuckingbeliwvable
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I have a FB friend in Montana who has joined in a thread discussing this event with what appear to be other Montanans. This morning they are divided along the expected lines - Rs say the reporter had it coming, Ds saying the candidate is a criminal.

Most unexpected is that the source supporting the reporter's story - the Fox News crew setting up for an interview who were in the room at the time.
 
espola said:
I have a FB friend in Montana who has joined in a thread discussing this event with what appear to be other Montanans. This morning they are divided along the expected lines - Rs say the reporter had it coming, Ds saying the candidate is a criminal.

Most unexpected is that the source supporting the reporter's story - the Fox News crew setting up for an interview who were in the room at the time.
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I am going to go out on a limb here, he probably had it coming.
 
espola said:
The ones that are preserved are pretty well known, marked off on maps, some protected with fences. Mickey bulldozed them anyway.

One of my favorites (in dry phase) just west of 163 --
https://www.google.com/maps/place/S...3a21fdfd15df79!8m2!3d32.715738!4d-117.1610838

A couple of small ones, crowded with fences --
https://www.google.com/maps/place/S...3a21fdfd15df79!8m2!3d32.715738!4d-117.1610838
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First one, google maps street view, image captured Jan 2017 --
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.844...4!1scrv7v1JDy1oj2U1WBWaJ1Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I first became aware of San Diego's vernal pools in the early 80's when I was doing some volunteer work on projects directed by Dr. Ellen Bauder, a biologist at SDSU. She asked several of us to submit comments on mitigation plans during the construction of SR52 east from 805 to Santee. The big pool shown above was one of those she had identified in her field work, and was specifically marked off for preservation in the mitigation plans. I remember that every time I drive by there - this has been a good year for it, although it is pretty much dried out by now after a few drier months.
 
Sheriff Joe said:
There must be more to the story.
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Ask Fox News - they had a reporter on the scene.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...d-for-misdemeanor-assault-after-incident.html

Victim says assault, politician says privacy was violated. Fox news reporter backs the victim's story, local sheriff (documented as a donor to the politician's campaign) arrests politician for misdemeanor assault.

My Montana friends of friends are all over the spectrum on this one, but one pointed out that a lot of people have already voted early/absentee so those votes will be unaffected. Politician is still favored to win.

My wife has CNN on all the time while working at her desk, so she was the first to bring this to my attention. My response was that in Montana it probably gained him votes.
 
espola said:
Ask Fox News - they had a reporter on the scene.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...d-for-misdemeanor-assault-after-incident.html

Victim says assault, politician says privacy was violated. Fox news reporter backs the victim's story, local sheriff (documented as a donor to the politician's campaign) arrests politician for misdemeanor assault.

My Montana friends of friends are all over the spectrum on this one, but one pointed out that a lot of people have already voted early/absentee so those votes will be unaffected. Politician is still favored to win.

My wife has CNN on all the time while working at her desk, so she was the first to bring this to my attention. My response was that in Montana it probably gained him votes.
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Fox News?
 
espola said:
"without due process"? Read the first line in the linked USA Today article -- "trial in federal court this summer"
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Magoo, Magoo, Magoo......
Had you read the link you would have had to have seen what is printed below and realized that this has nothing to do with vernal pools and why Durate sued in the first place.
From the article:
The Army Corps did not claim Duarte violated the Endangered Species Act by destroying fairy shrimp or their habitat, Francois said.

Duarte's wheat was planted but not harvested because in February 2013 the Army Corps of Engineers and the California Central Valley Regional Water Quality Control Board issued orders to stop work at the site. The agencies claimed Duarte had violated the Clean Water Act by not obtaining a permit to discharge dredged or fill material into seasonal wetlands considered waters of the United States.

Duarte sued the Army Corps and the state, alleging they violated his constitutional right of due process by issuing the cease and desist orders without a hearing. The U.S. Attorney’s Office counter-sued Duarte Nursery to enforce the Clean Water Act violation.

Capeesh?
 
Lion Eyes said:
Magoo, Magoo, Magoo......
Had you read the link you would have had to have seen what is printed below and realized that this has nothing to do with vernal pools and why Durate sued in the first place.
From the article:
The Army Corps did not claim Duarte violated the Endangered Species Act by destroying fairy shrimp or their habitat, Francois said.

Duarte's wheat was planted but not harvested because in February 2013 the Army Corps of Engineers and the California Central Valley Regional Water Quality Control Board issued orders to stop work at the site. The agencies claimed Duarte had violated the Clean Water Act by not obtaining a permit to discharge dredged or fill material into seasonal wetlands considered waters of the United States.

Duarte sued the Army Corps and the state, alleging they violated his constitutional right of due process by issuing the cease and desist orders without a hearing. The U.S. Attorney’s Office counter-sued Duarte Nursery to enforce the Clean Water Act violation.

Capeesh?
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Like most "due process", it's full of lawyer talk. Meanwhile, the pools are still destroyed.
 
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