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QUOTE="Andy Dukes, post: 253429, member: 1268"

I am sure some of these hedge fund types consider themselves good conservatives.

Maybe they should have done a better job raising their kids.

Quite a few of the offspring were unaware of what the " Status "
minded parents had done.....Most likely the students had average grades,
just not what " Mommy and Daddy " wanted them to have.....



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Again Andy.....you NEED to either Zip it or do some research......

As the DOJ was laying out the crimes the " Baldy " stated that quite a few
of the offspring were unaware of what the parents had done....

We've ALL seen this type of crap on a much smaller scale in club....
Players ( kids ) becoming the parents fantasy.....
 
nononono said:
Again Andy.....you NEED to either Zip it or do some research......

As the DOJ was laying out the crimes the " Baldy " stated that quite a few
of the offspring were unaware of what the parents had done....

We've ALL seen this type of crap on a much smaller scale in club....
Players ( kids ) becoming the parents fantasy.....
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Well my kids would never have allowed me to cheat for them. And they certainly would have been aware if I was trying to do their work for them. No excuse for the parents or the kids. The kids are a reflection of the parents and the parenting skills of these folks.
 
nononono said:
I'm guessing you have a " Wall " out back.....you're approaching the point
where I recommend you go out back and knock your melon a couple of times
on it.....

Where's anyone accused you of cheating.
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These parents are the ones who are accused of cheating. Go back and read Joe's point. A left tactic. No one much more left than me. That is why I responded with the my kids part.
 
Andy Dukes said:
These parents are the ones who are accused of cheating. Go back and read Joe's point. A left tactic. No one much more left than me. That is why I responded with the my kids part.
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Did he NAME you.....No !

Are you showing signs of a guilty conscience.....sure is veering that way.

Maybe " Think " in between swigs.
 
Andy Dukes said:
Well my kids would never have allowed me to cheat for them. And they certainly would have been aware if I was trying to do their work for them. No excuse for the parents or the kids. The kids are a reflection of the parents and the parenting skills of these folks.
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Chicken or the egg.
 
tenacious said:
Well... it sounds like you know the answer. I'll start my drum roll to build up the suspense for your reveal.
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We had the most expansive economic growth period in the late 40's, 50's and 60's in mankind's history. Much of this was because we had the largest most sophisticated manufacturing and agricultural base left. Because we spent more than we made for decades had nothing to do with the investment in doing the right thing during WW2.
 
Andy Dukes said:
We had the most expansive economic growth period in the late 40's, 50's and 60's in mankind's history. Much of this was because we had the largest most sophisticated manufacturing and agricultural base left. Because we spent more than we made for decades had nothing to do with the investment in doing the right thing during WW2.
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You really think 25 years or so of economic growth was enough to pay for rebuilding England, France, Germany, Japan? As we were also fighting the Cold War and Korea War? Not sure I'm just ready to agree out of hand.

We paid on the interest from the War Debt... but from what I understand, we actually never paid the principle off. At least if you good the nations debt, our country has continuously carried debt ever since the War.
 
tenacious said:
You really think 25 years or so of economic growth was enough to pay for rebuilding England, France, Germany, Japan? As we were also fighting the Cold War and Korea War? Not sure I'm just ready to agree out of hand.

We paid on the interest from the War Debt... but from what I understand, we actually never paid the principle off. At least if you good the nations debt, our country has continuously carried debt ever since the War.
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It was a remarkable period of growth and we had the upper hand because we did not have to rebuild. We were able to invest in the interstate roadway and such. Also, the war effort allowed the economy to recover from the depression in ways that cleared debts from the public works projects like TVA. I am no economist but looking at the growth in income and prosperity, it was remarkable even if unsustainable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post–World_War_II_economic_expansion
 
Andy Dukes said:
It was a remarkable period of growth and we had the upper hand because we did not have to rebuild. We were able to invest in the interstate roadway and such. Also, the war effort allowed the economy to recover from the depression in ways that cleared debts from the public works projects like TVA. I am no economist but looking at the growth in income and prosperity, it was remarkable even if unsustainable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post–World_War_II_economic_expansion
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So you don't actually have a year where you can point to that all the debt we run up rebuilding Europe and Japan actually got reduced to zero? Hmm... sounds like you should have told me to hold off on that drum roll.
 
tenacious said:
So you don't actually have a year where you can point to that all the debt we run up rebuilding Europe and Japan actually got reduced to zero? Hmm... sounds like you should have told me to hold off on that drum roll.
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I never claimed it was that simple. What has the trade with those two countries brought to the growth of the US economy in the last 80 years?
 
Andy Dukes said:
I never claimed it was that simple. What has the trade with those two countries brought to the growth of the US economy in the last 80 years?
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So to bring this back to my original point... comparing our economy to European socialist economies is apples and oranges given that we pay for the vast majority of their defense.

However much you want to claim we've made from our European trading partners, it doesn't change the fact that it's not enough to both pay to maintain peace in the West, and at the same time pay for the cushy social programs. (This is where you're going to say well we should stop paying for their defense, and I'm going to point out that Europe's military history doesn't make me think it's going to be any cheaper.)
 
tenacious said:
So to bring this back to my original point... comparing our economy to European socialist economies is apples and oranges given that we pay for the vast majority of their defense.

However much you want to claim we've made from our European trading partners, it doesn't change the fact that it's not enough to both pay to maintain peace in the West, and at the same time pay for the cushy social programs. (This is where you're going to say well we should stop paying for their defense, and I'm going to point out that Europe's military history doesn't make me think it's going to be any cheaper.)
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No. I am going to say we should collect more taxes to cover the costs.
 
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