Placer United stirring it up

[Maskless]

Maskface, placers DA teams were good enough to get granted ECNL. The most likely reason they didn’t get it is proximity to Davis and SJ and maybe not having their own fields. Also the new leadership at placer is solid so I won’t be surprised if they take a excel in the coming years. Not Kool Aid just facts.

Nice try, but you failed to provide any facts.

"placers DA teams were good enough to get granted ECNL." - This is an opinion. The fact is they didn't get ECNL.

"The most likely reason they didn’t get it is proximity to Davis and SJ and maybe not having their own fields." - This is conjecture. Not a fact.

"Also the new leadership at placer is solid" - Another opinion. I hope it gets better. The last chair, I heard, was a proponent of the Defensive Marriage Act and partnered with a big tobacco proponent. If true, hardly the type to have everyone's best interest in mind. It seems that mindset carried over to the club. This is another example of conjecture as opposed to fact. Personally I doubt that was the case.

"I won’t be surprised if they take a excel in the coming years." - Another opinion.

"In the coming years" That doesn't sound like anytime soon.

I know it can be hard to shift paradigms when the facts don't line up with what you want to believe. Yes there are some good players at the older ages but its hard for them to leave at a late stage. At this point it's an irrefutable dumpster fire when the facts we know are examined. In the coming years the flames will die out, the wreckage will be examined, and then we can evaluate the impact this had on Placer. Right now, the shitter is full at Placer. But at least there's a warm fire to huddle around during the winter. Also, try coffee, it might help.

 

[gotothebushes]

Nice try, but you failed to provide any facts.

"placers DA teams were good enough to get granted ECNL." - This is an opinion. The fact is they didn't get ECNL.

"The most likely reason they didn’t get it is proximity to Davis and SJ and maybe not having their own fields." - This is conjecture. Not a fact.

"Also the new leadership at placer is solid" - Another opinion. I hope it gets better. The last chair, I heard, was a proponent of the Defensive Marriage Act and partnered with a big tobacco proponent. If true, hardly the type to have everyone's best interest in mind. It seems that mindset carried over to the club. This is another example of conjecture as opposed to fact. Personally I doubt that was the case.

"I won’t be surprised if they take a excel in the coming years." - Another opinion.

"In the coming years" That doesn't sound like anytime soon.

I know it can be hard to shift paradigms when the facts don't line up with what you want to believe. Yes there are some good players at the older ages but its hard for them to leave at a late stage. At this point it's an irrefutable dumpster fire when the facts we know are examined. In the coming years the flames will die out, the wreckage will be examined, and then we can evaluate the impact this had on Placer. Right now, the shitter is full at Placer. But at least there's a warm fire to huddle around during the winter. Also, try coffee, it might help.

I have a sneaky feeling this is OUTLAW!! Name is Maskless and’s a Bronze member! Hmmmm!!!

 

[Maskless]

I have a sneaky feeling this is OUTLAW!! Name is Maskless and’s a Bronze member! Hmmmm!!!

Another popular tactic employed by the Placer crowd used to distract from any perceived attacks or misconceptions directed towards the club rather than having an objective dialog about it.

 

[Glitterhater]

Like I've mentioned before, we have a few years experience with Placer, (we left this year.)
It was a shit show last year, 100%. I can't speak to the current leadership as like I said, we're gone.
I do feel like Placer is more of a "numbers" club. I didn't feel like our experience showed that they care about players- just numbers.
I can appreciate everyone's opinions on this because I do know that some people were happy there. But- facts are facts. It's factual they've done some shady shit.

 

[SaydeeLu]

Like I've mentioned before, we have a few years experience with Placer, (we left this year.)
It was a shit show last year, 100%. I can't speak to the current leadership as like I said, we're gone.
I do feel like Placer is more of a "numbers" club. I didn't feel like our experience showed that they care about players- just numbers.
I can appreciate everyone's opinions on this because I do know that some people were happy there. But- facts are facts. It's factual they've done some shady shit.

This was exactly our experience the past four years at Placer, especially this last season before COVID hit. I strongly believe it is a widely shared opinion that the club did not care about the development or retention of the younger players on the girls' side. It was hard for me not to wonder if the ulittles and B/C teams were just considered "fundraisers" for the DA teams. I do hope the club can turn things around again after the recent mass exodus. We picked that club in the first place because of their reputation as being a strong club for many years -sad it seems that is no longer the case. We still have many friends there and would never want to see them fail, but I can't help but feel a bit of "I told you so" when we hear of more and more families' dissatisfaction.

 

[crush]

Nice try, but you failed to provide any facts.

"placers DA teams were good enough to get granted ECNL." - This is an opinion. The fact is they didn't get ECNL.

"The most likely reason they didn’t get it is proximity to Davis and SJ and maybe not having their own fields." - This is conjecture. Not a fact.

"Also the new leadership at placer is solid" - Another opinion. I hope it gets better. The last chair, I heard, was a proponent of the Defensive Marriage Act and partnered with a big tobacco proponent. If true, hardly the type to have everyone's best interest in mind. It seems that mindset carried over to the club. This is another example of conjecture as opposed to fact. Personally I doubt that was the case.

"I won’t be surprised if they take a excel in the coming years." - Another opinion.

"In the coming years" That doesn't sound like anytime soon.

I know it can be hard to shift paradigms when the facts don't line up with what you want to believe. Yes there are some good players at the older ages but its hard for them to leave at a late stage. At this point it's an irrefutable dumpster fire when the facts we know are examined. In the coming years the flames will die out, the wreckage will be examined, and then we can evaluate the impact this had on Placer. Right now, the shitter is full at Placer. But at least there's a warm fire to huddle around during the winter. Also, try coffee, it might help.

Outlaw, is this you? Be honest with us Maskless. I like the avatar name. Can you give us the true meaning on the name and why you picked it? Welcome back or welcome to the forum.

 

[dad4]

Nice try, but you failed to provide any facts.

"placers DA teams were good enough to get granted ECNL." - This is an opinion. The fact is they didn't get ECNL.

"The most likely reason they didn’t get it is proximity to Davis and SJ and maybe not having their own fields." - This is conjecture. Not a fact.

"Also the new leadership at placer is solid" - Another opinion. I hope it gets better. The last chair, I heard, was a proponent of the Defensive Marriage Act and partnered with a big tobacco proponent. If true, hardly the type to have everyone's best interest in mind. It seems that mindset carried over to the club. This is another example of conjecture as opposed to fact. Personally I doubt that was the case.

"I won’t be surprised if they take a excel in the coming years." - Another opinion.

"In the coming years" That doesn't sound like anytime soon.

I know it can be hard to shift paradigms when the facts don't line up with what you want to believe. Yes there are some good players at the older ages but its hard for them to leave at a late stage. At this point it's an irrefutable dumpster fire when the facts we know are examined. In the coming years the flames will die out, the wreckage will be examined, and then we can evaluate the impact this had on Placer. Right now, the shitter is full at Placer. But at least there's a warm fire to huddle around during the winter. Also, try coffee, it might help.

It is amusing that you accuse others of having opinions, and then write “the shitter is full at Placer". (Apparently this counts as objective fact.)

I can only assume you work for Honey Bucket and have the inside scoop about whose porta-potties are due for a cleaning.

Good luck to the kids at Placer and elsewhere. And thanks for the sanitation help.

 

[Maskless]

Outlaw, is this you? Be honest with us Maskless. I like the avatar name. Can you give us the true meaning on the name and why you picked it? Welcome back or welcome to the forum.

Thanks for the welcome. I have no idea who Outlaw is except for a few of the posts I've seen. It's clubs like Placer that make people question who is honest and what is the truth bc they intentionally lead people to the wrong conclusions with not untrue facts. For example, the sky is black. It's this tactic at Placer that stifles conversations and questions among parents for fear of retribution.

 

[crush]

It is amusing that you accuse others of having opinions, and then write “the shitter is full at Placer". (Apparently this counts as objective fact.)

I can only assume you work for Honey Bucket and have the inside scoop about whose porta-potties are due for a cleaning.

Good luck to the kids at Placer and elsewhere. And thanks for the sanitation help.

 

[Maskless]

It is amusing that you accuse others of having opinions, and then write “the shitter is full at Placer". (Apparently this counts as objective fact.)

I can only assume you work for Honey Bucket and have the inside scoop about whose porta-potties are due for a cleaning.

Good luck to the kids at Placer and elsewhere. And thanks for the sanitation help.

Ugh. Maybe I'll come back to this one later. But true to form at Placer, denigrate and disparage others to prove your point.

 

[Maskless]

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Looks like someone else was taking photos at Tinker.

 

[dad4]

Ugh. Maybe I'll come back to this one later. But true to form at Placer, denigrate and disparage others to prove your point.

Huh? The guy whose metaphors are toilets and dumpsters suddenly objects to denigration?

LMAO.

Enjoy your work at Honey Bucket. Life really wouldnt be the same without you.

 

[EOTL]

Ugh. Maybe I'll come back to this one later. But true to form at Placer, denigrate and disparage others to prove your point.

The intra-regional hate among the Excremento crowd (since we’re using potty language in this thread) is the main reason the region consistently underwhelms. They’re more interested in winning today at all costs than developing players, but trying to make their local competitors fail is the most important thing of all up there.

Are you trying to be ironic when you “denigrate and disparage” a club by accusing them of doing it?

 

[crush]

Huh? The guy whose metaphors are toilets and dumpsters suddenly objects to denigration?

LMAO.

Enjoy your work at Honey Bucket. Life really wouldnt be the same without you.

Ya brah!!!

 

[Ksoccer07]

I admit I follow the NorCal boys more than the girls but I think I remember placer 05 girls going to 3 state cup finals and winning 1 or 2 of them. Then they went DA and and got more talent, but I’m sure this wouldn’t put them at an average ECNL level. I watched the placer 05&04 girls play a bit last year and both were very solid. As far as new DOC’s Benjamin and unsworth are good coaches and care about the kids a lot. Does this mean the club will have good success? We will see but it’s a good starting point. Attention Everyone these are opinions and not fact.

 

[Ksoccer07]

Ugh. Maybe I'll come back to this one later. But true to form at Placer, denigrate and disparage others to prove your point.

 

[Soccerfan2]

I admit I follow the NorCal boys more than the girls but I think I remember placer 05 girls going to 3 state cup finals and winning 1 or 2 of them. Then they went DA and and got more talent, but I’m sure this wouldn’t put them at an average ECNL level. I watched the placer 05&04 girls play a bit last year and both were very solid. As far as new DOC’s Benjamin and unsworth are good coaches and care about the kids a lot. Does this mean the club will have good success? We will see but it’s a good starting point. Attention Everyone these are opinions and not fact.

 

[Ksoccer07]

Huh? The guy whose metaphors are toilets and dumpsters suddenly objects to denigration?

LMAO.

Enjoy your work at Honey Bucket. Life really wouldnt be the same without you.
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It is amusing that you accuse others of having opinions, and then write “the shitter is full at Placer". (Apparently this counts as objective fact.)

I can only assume you work for Honey Bucket and have the inside scoop about whose porta-potties are due for a cleaning.

Good luck to the kids at Placer and elsewhere. And thanks for the sanitation help.

Hey, Maskless Shitter #2 needs attention...may want to bring the snake.

 

[youthsportsugghhh]

Both of my daughters teams played against Placer and Placer was always pretty solid at the top end, but didn't seem to have depth in the Club (more of a drop from top to 2nd team). So that might have been something that ECNL looked at along with Davis and San Juan already in the area as a pairing (Pleasanton/Mustang, Marin/Santa Rosa, MVLA/Thorns) in addition to some of the trouble that people mention on here.

 

[Glitterhater]

Both of my daughters teams played against Placer and Placer was always pretty solid at the top end, but didn't seem to have depth in the Club (more of a drop from top to 2nd team). So that might have been something that ECNL looked at along with Davis and San Juan already in the area as a pairing (Pleasanton/Mustang, Marin/Santa Rosa, MVLA/Thorns) in addition to some of the trouble that people mention on here.

There is a lot of truth to this as well. Several top teams would be loaded while the second teams would struggle. You'd have those 1 or 2 players on the second teams that by all means deserved to be playing up-but they got overlooked for whatever reason and got fed up and left. Leaving the second teams worse off than before. All that said, maybe that's an overall club thing? I don't really know.