Sane65
BRONZE
So, this all begs the obvious question. My apologies for being naive. Have you heard of any particular club that has given out official DA offers? How many have gone out? From which club(s)?
Pateadores Girls DA 03/04 - Observations
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Generik
SILVER
Can someone remind me again why we needed all these changes to girls youth soccer?
I feel bad for so many players and teams that are being forced to make decisions that I am not convinced will serve their best-interests in the long-run.
I may be wrong (quiet everyone!!!
) - but not sure if we will know that answer (right or wrong) either until all our daughters are done playing in these circuits.
This change may be "the right thing for the sport" in the long-run...but in the short-term, I feel we (players, teams, parents, and coaches) are paying the price paving the way for the next generation of players as we all try to work through too many unknowns to make the best decisions for our players.
Good luck....Merry Christmas...hallelujah...and where's the Tylenol!!!
I feel bad for so many players and teams that are being forced to make decisions that I am not convinced will serve their best-interests in the long-run.
I may be wrong (quiet everyone!!!
) - but not sure if we will know that answer (right or wrong) either until all our daughters are done playing in these circuits.This change may be "the right thing for the sport" in the long-run...but in the short-term, I feel we (players, teams, parents, and coaches) are paying the price paving the way for the next generation of players as we all try to work through too many unknowns to make the best decisions for our players.
Good luck....Merry Christmas...hallelujah...and where's the Tylenol!!!
HMMMM so if you can get a scholarship to one of the catholic schools or privates in OC you can say that your admission is tied to your soccer and therefore you "have to play"? Wow I have seen it all now.
Loophole noted see everyone you truly can have it all!
MainSoccer
BRONZE
@CaliKlines Based on disagree, do you not think there will be a 2003 ecnl team next year that will compete against any top DA team? I would be willing to guess there will be.
CaliKlines
Well-Known Member
If by compete you mean win >5 of every 10 games they play, then yes, there will not be an ECNL team able to do that against any top DA side. Especially as ECNL/DA clubs have committed to proffering their best teams to the Academy league. Strikers and Arsenal top teams will probably field much different rosters than what they have now. This is a very strong age group, and there are alot of DA spots available for those better players interested in furthering their skills. Just one poor man's opinion.
MakeAPlay
DA
One poor man's opinion? http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/arti...oryId=2&utm_source=TopDrawerSoccer Newsletter
Sort of like there are no non-ECNL teams that can compete with ECNL teams? You can't have it both ways Cali. Just when I thought that you were giving straight answers.
Soccer123
SILVER ELITE
Blues and possibly Pats.
Soccer123
SILVER ELITE
Ecnl will be the new Egsl next season for many clubs.
I truly hope there are a lot of 03 ecnl teams next season that can compete against any top Da Teams, but there isn't enough talent to go around in my opinion. Ecnl will be hurt by da.
GunninGopher
SILVER ELITE
I'll bet there was a Title IX concern. Someone could probably make a case (against US Soccer) that the females are not being given the same opportunities that the males are.
I certainly don't have any facts to back it up, but I suspect that doing this now was either in response to some inquiries/concerns, or in anticipation of them.
MakeAPlay
DA
Ecnl will be the new Egsl next season for many clubs.
That is exactly what we thought with the ECNL split many moons ago. It turned out that a few teams here and there could compete. Also GDA teams won't be age pure so the off year ECNL teams will likely be very strong. How many players are good enough to be better than the impact players that are a year older? You might find half a dozen or so in all of SoCal in each two year age band. How many parents of impact players are going to want them to sit every other year? I won't even get into the high school component but in my players graduating class there was only one top player that didn't play high school. Just food for thought.
bababooey
GOLD
I am so glad that this thread has attracted a lot of good, thought provoking questions. To me the biggest question is this.......what do parents think is best for their dd? That answer will provide direction as we move into our second consecutive year of upheaval (last year's age change). I will be honest and say that two years ago when we decided to leave our first club team to chase the dream of playing against the perceived best teams in So Cal, I did it mostly for ego. I felt my dd could compete against the top level talent and by moving to SOC, she would have more opportunities to go up against Surf, Blues, Slammers, Legends, Beach, etc. If we stick around with SOC next season, she will have her third new HC in three years. That is not a positive in my eyes.
Getting back to the question posed above, if a parent feels their dd has the talent to compete at the very highest levels (ODP, ID2, YNT, etc.) then DA is the way to go. The rub with DA is that the players will have to trade in the opportunity to play HS and ODP. On the flip side, if HS is really important to our dd's, then DA is not the proper choice. How many of us are making decisions based on our desires versus our dd's desires?
I still feel the key to all of this (DA versus ECNL) will be how the clubs with both handle their rosters. Pats, Legends, Beach and others (DA clubs that do not have ECNL) do not have to worry about keeping US Soccer happy with their DA program along with keeping ECNL happy with their product. Strikers and Arsenal are going to put all of their focus into ECNL. Will the impact players on those teams stick around or leave?
Getting back to the question posed above, if a parent feels their dd has the talent to compete at the very highest levels (ODP, ID2, YNT, etc.) then DA is the way to go. The rub with DA is that the players will have to trade in the opportunity to play HS and ODP. On the flip side, if HS is really important to our dd's, then DA is not the proper choice. How many of us are making decisions based on our desires versus our dd's desires?
I still feel the key to all of this (DA versus ECNL) will be how the clubs with both handle their rosters. Pats, Legends, Beach and others (DA clubs that do not have ECNL) do not have to worry about keeping US Soccer happy with their DA program along with keeping ECNL happy with their product. Strikers and Arsenal are going to put all of their focus into ECNL. Will the impact players on those teams stick around or leave?
LadiesMan217
GOLD
DAII will be for the "off year" players and 10 of the 14 new southwest DA clubs committed to DAII last week in Chicago.
bababooey
GOLD
I'm sure US Soccer has a laundry list of reasons why they feel GDA is needed, but I suspect the real reason is that they want to control the talent pool more than they do now. By weakening ECNL, I think this gets them closer to the end goal.
LadiesMan217
GOLD
I like that GDA requires coaches that are qualified, have to follow a coaching plan based on a US Soccer development layout, and have to provide weekly practice reports to US Soccer, etc. Somewhat held accountable. Going to practice and scrimmaging while a coach is on their cell phone will be less prevalent and all clubs will be taught same skills, etc.
bababooey
GOLD
I had not thought about Title IX, but that could be a very good reason. Thanks GG.
LadiesMan217
GOLD
How about more affordable soccer, mandated soccer training plans and agenda, qualified coaching requirements, etc. rather than throwing kids at unknowns, different and potentially mediocre training, and having unqualified parents trying to figure it out and potentially drink koolaid, etc.
Maybe US Soccer finally realizes that their YNT coaches are so poor they could use all the help they can get!
younothat
PREMIER
What 10 clubs in the Southwest? I know somebody that attended the meeting and only about 7 of the 14 expressed interest but being very early they still don't have any concrete plans or start day for any new league component.
Blues, Legends, LAFC Slammers, Real So Cal, Surf, LA Galaxy, Eagles?
When there is an official post on the ussda site will know for sure. There is always lots of talk about this out that, slides put out, this new season 17-18' was supposed to be calender year for everyone, etc then the real official info is posted that says...
Soccer123
SILVER ELITE
Is anyone disappointed with any of the "ecnl coach selections" for next season? It feels like the "best developmental coaches" will coach da and a lot of the "non developmental coaches (who like to scrimmage all practice)" will coach ecnl. How do they determine if a coach is qualified to coach an ecnl team? It is all about development at this age and the best developmental coaches need to be coaching da and ecnl in my opinion. How does an ecnl player ever have a chance to make a da team if they don't get the development throughout the season. Families should not have to do privates 2-3 days a week to get the development when we are paying these clubs top $$'s. I think Cal South needs better developmental coaches. There are some awesome developmental coaches out there, we just need more.