Nor Cal Return to Play

Nope. Don’t have to because you already know that a “better safe than sorry” policy is being implemented here. We are dealing with an administrative agency that’s entitled to determine what their regulations mean. How one feels or what one thinks has absolutely no bearing on the issue.

Exactly. "Feelings" shouldn't have a place in the discussion. I'm certainly not arguing people shouldn't follow the rules. If masks are required by the organization or fields, then people should follow those rules or simply stay home so kids can play. Don't ruin it for everyone. Making such rules are is their prerogative.

But you also shouldn't pretend any mandate to wear masks on during a soccer game isn't mostly based on people's "feelings." It certainly isn't some science-based decision based on real life negative outcomes of virus spread during outdoor soccer games. If anything, there's plenty of evidence to the contrary.

That isn't really the point though. Mask up, if required. Let's ensure the kids play and all get through this for the next few months.
 
I get that trumpanzees disregard the advice of medical experts because it interferes with their ability to be idiots. The one guy claimed words don’t mean what they mean. You claim the foremost experts in the field are just making s**t up because they’d rather just cover their asses than actually make policy recommendations in their area of expertise. Pretty soon @MSK357 will jump in and say it’s all a hoax, people are only dying “with covid” but if anyone ever did die wearing a mask, in that case they died “because of” the mask, not “with the mask”. Then Grace Karen will chime in that masks don’t work, and then go berate some poor soccer ref after she’s done with the Costco manager. Finally, @crush will meme Jenny McCarthy claiming vaccines cause autism, and then blame a soccer club for trying to ruin his kid’s life. In one sentence y’all deny science, and the. you claim that it’s science behind your anti-science.

In short, your rejection of the advice of the foremost experts on the issue puts you right there with all the other idiots.
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The idiocy.

Should kids wear masks? No.

Why?

They are not at any risk. Having them wear masks while playing other kids is the height of idiocy.

Per the CDC as of now you have had just over 200 people under that age of 17 die NATIONWIDE since covid started.

Says the guy whining about not being able to hit the bars back in May and who was gloating about how great AZ is doing, although it’s been #1 in per capita body count over the last 10 months.
 
I get that trumpanzees disregard the advice of medical experts because it interferes with their ability to be idiots. The one guy claimed words don’t mean what they mean. You claim the foremost experts in the field are just making s**t up because they’d rather just cover their asses than actually make policy recommendations in their area of expertise. Pretty soon @MSK357 will jump in and say it’s all a hoax, people are only dying “with covid” but if anyone ever did die wearing a mask, in that case they died “because of” the mask, not “with the mask”. Then Grace Karen will chime in that masks don’t work, and then go berate some poor soccer ref after she’s done with the Costco manager. Finally, @crush will meme Jenny McCarthy claiming vaccines cause autism, and then blame a soccer club for trying to ruin his kid’s life. In one sentence y’all deny science, and the. you claim that it’s science behind your anti-science.

In short, your rejection of the advice of the foremost experts on the issue puts you right there with all the other idiots.


So I guess the bottom line is I am right about both things. You are an unreasonable bully, and you are also incapable of refuting the fact that the nationwide Covid infection rate in the other 48 states for outdoor soccer games in the past 12 months is roughly 0.000%.


Go on. It's your turn to pull out your Trumpian playbook response and create some strawman argument that twists the point I'm trying to make and culminates with personal insults.
 
How does instructing my daughter to follow the rules from the entity that issued the permit make me a fool? Are you saying I should have marched on the field and raised hell because of a mask after not playing for a year? Yeah, I don’t think so. We live in this community and I prefer to not make an ass out of myself.

As far as playing and wearing the mask, if my middle aged self can wear the mask when I go to exercise outside at Orange Theory for an hour I’m pretty sure the majority of these very in shape atheletes can handle it.

Don't get me wrong. I am not telling my kid not to wear a mask when he plays. I respect and teach my kid to respect and obey laws and rules. And I do care about people around me, friends and strangers. My point is that I have watched a few games in the last 5-6 days between competitive teams and the players masks were covering their necks but not the faces. Maybe very few players kept their masks on their faces. This rule to wear masks are not enforced via clubs or the referees. Who needs wearing masks when it's not enforce. End you know why it's not enforced? Because it's not possible to do it. You can't stop the game every time the mask in down due to so many reason. Then why have those rules that no one cares to enforce.
As for your 'middle aged self can wear the mask' I don't know what to say. I guess kids should do everything else you're doing in your golden age.
Again, maybe for little kids and rec sport is possible and workable wearing masks but for older kids doing competitive sport I don't know.
And yes, I am not running around and screaming let's not wear masks but I am entitled to have my opinion and put it on the forum as it what it's for.

Again, think about, 22 kids on the field playing soccer via kicking one ball, bumping in each other. Touch this ball with their hands (throwings, free kicks, and etc) then correcting their masks constantly and touching their faces, wiping their noses. Then add other kids who sub them. Do you see the picture? What protection those masks do for them, nada. From that point it's not save to play soccer at all (here in California) . All I am saying it's useless rule and the only reason all those Associations of Pediatrics say is to cover their asxxx in case some one will sue them.

Someone pointed out that wearing masks during play is only for a few more weeks. It could be true but also it could be for who knows for how long. The numbers of infected is down in all categories but now the recommendations we hear is to wear double masks. I guess it's a "good" logic.
 
Don't get me wrong. I am not telling my kid not to wear a mask when he plays. I respect and teach my kid to respect and obey laws and rules. And I do care about people around me, friends and strangers. My point is that I have watched a few games in the last 5-6 days between competitive teams and the players masks were covering their necks but not the faces. Maybe very few players kept their masks on their faces. This rule to wear masks are not enforced via clubs or the referees. Who needs wearing masks when it's not enforce. End you know why it's not enforced? Because it's not possible to do it. You can't stop the game every time the mask in down due to so many reason. Then why have those rules that no one cares to enforce.
As for your 'middle aged self can wear the mask' I don't know what to say. I guess kids should do everything else you're doing in your golden age.
Again, maybe for little kids and rec sport is possible and workable wearing masks but for older kids doing competitive sport I don't know.
And yes, I am not running around and screaming let's not wear masks but I am entitled to have my opinion and put it on the forum as it what it's for.

Again, think about, 22 kids on the field playing soccer via kicking one ball, bumping in each other. Touch this ball with their hands (throwings, free kicks, and etc) then correcting their masks constantly and touching their faces, wiping their noses. Then add other kids who sub them. Do you see the picture? What protection those masks do for them, nada. From that point it's not save to play soccer at all (here in California) . All I am saying it's useless rule and the only reason all those Associations of Pediatrics say is to cover their asxxx in case some one will sue them.

Someone pointed out that wearing masks during play is only for a few more weeks. It could be true but also it could be for who knows for how long. The numbers of infecte
d is down in all categories but now the recommendations we hear is to wear double masks. I guess it's a "good" logic.

I'm sure wearing masks is good intent (I'm reaching) but...it's just a silly attempt to virtue signal. If that's what it takes to play soccer, then so be it...Still dumb and it will still get scrutinized and ridiculed.

We just wrapped up a HS soccer season in AZ. Masks were required. I would guesstimate they stayed in place less than 5% of the time. Why bother. Refs never enforced the mask rule on the field. Everyone on the sideline wore theirs. All theater. Meanwhile, in Club land, masks are not required. They are optional - up to the player.
 
I'm sure wearing masks is good intent (I'm reaching) but...it's just a silly attempt to virtue signal. If that's what it takes to play soccer, then so be it...Still dumb and it will still get scrutinized and ridiculed.

We just wrapped up a HS soccer season in AZ. Masks were required. I would guesstimate they stayed in place less than 5% of the time. Why bother. Refs never enforced the mask rule on the field. Everyone on the sideline wore theirs. All theater. Meanwhile, in Club land, masks are not required. They are optional - up to the player.

No wonder your state has the highest body count per capita over the last 10 months. No worries. Soon enough people will be vaccinated that people will stop dying despite AZ’s best efforts.
 
No wonder your state has the highest body count per capita over the last 10 months. No worries. Soon enough people will be vaccinated that people will stop dying despite AZ’s best efforts.
That's right, it was the soccer. Google is your friend. Another dud. Go back to reading AAP literature, sounds like you need a revisit in reading comprehension.

Maybe you should get out this upcoming weekend and watch soccer, see how much fun those kids are having. While you are at it, focus your efforts on getting kids and teachers back in school. If that doesn't work, lend out your hotspot so those kids can at least go online. Try to do something useful for your local community, feel good about something. Lay off djt already. You are basically letting him live in your head rent free - you gotta get that taken care off.
 
That's right, it was the soccer. Google is your friend. Another dud. Go back to reading AAP literature, sounds like you need a revisit in reading comprehension.

Maybe you should get out this upcoming weekend and watch soccer, see how much fun those kids are having. While you are at it, focus your efforts on getting kids and teachers back in school. If that doesn't work, lend out your hotspot so those kids can at least go online. Try to do something useful for your local community, feel good about something. Lay off djt already. You are basically letting him live in your head rent free - you gotta get that taken care off.

“ Lay off djt already. You are basically letting him live in your head rent free - you gotta get that taken care off.”

Nope, not at all. What you’re saying is just the magat way of trying to avoid accountability and stop having to confront who you are and what you are. It is your problem that you’re humiliated by your support of him. Too bad.
 
“ Lay off djt already. You are basically letting him live in your head rent free - you gotta get that taken care off.”

Nope, not at all. What you’re saying is just the magat way of trying to avoid accountability and stop having to confront who you are and what you are. It is your problem that you’re humiliated by your support of him. Too bad.
Sorry folks, we need to interrupt this important Nocal thread with this important message for EOTL. This is why EOTL has T's Tower living in his head for the rest of his life on earth and rent free to boot. Talk about free handouts....lol!!! EOTL has the T-Curse as well. Basically, he can;t lay his head down without seeing T as he tries to sleep. He even has Crush in his head. Tonight, this will be in his head......

 
How were everyone's games? Any surprises? Unfortunately, my DD's friend tore her ACL first game back :(
How were everyone's games? Any surprises? Unfortunately, my DD's friend tore her ACL first game back :(
Sorry about your DD’s friend. I hope she has a speedy recovery.
Our game was pretty good. Our girls were sluggish and a bit of a mess but still managed to win. I didn’t notice any big surprises, but I did see some blowouts which sucks for both teams. I’m sure there will be some shuffling for Return to Play #2.
 
“ Lay off djt already. You are basically letting him live in your head rent free - you gotta get that taken care off.”

Nope, not at all. What you’re saying is just the magat way of trying to avoid accountability and stop having to confront who you are and what you are. It is your problem that you’re humiliated by your support of him. Too bad.
As usual, you provided nothing of substance and completely sidestepped what is being discussed. Your contribution here (and likely society as a whole) is silliness and doctrinal rhetoric. But that's what makes you so endearing to so many.

You would be a true hero though if you gave up your hot spot to all of those weak minded kids you always describe.

By the way, we are still waiting on the peer reviewed study that shows how dangerous soccer is to society if masks aren't worn by players. I know you worship at the pew of bureaucratic organizations but wuz hoping for something sciency to dig into.








Who are called bureaucrats
 
Sorry about your DD’s friend. I hope she has a speedy recovery.
Our game was pretty good. Our girls were sluggish and a bit of a mess but still managed to win. I didn’t notice any big surprises, but I did see some blowouts which sucks for both teams. I’m sure there will be some shuffling for Return to Play #2.
Can they reshuffle -- county by county playing? Maybe some other teams will join that weren't in before that could allow some more equitable matchups. I didn't really look at the results, just MVLA '04 and Thorns '03 seemed to have a nice little game out of the gate -- notified from a friend involved
 
Can they reshuffle -- county by county playing? Maybe some other teams will join that weren't in before that could allow some more equitable matchups. I didn't really look at the results, just MVLA '04 and Thorns '03 seemed to have a nice little game out of the gate -- notified from a friend involved
If we hit orange or yellow, SCC may relax the stay in county rule. If that happens, Alameda or San Mateo could join SCC next time.

Or you can do the regular pro/rel thing. If a team is getting thumped, they can drop down a notch.
 
As usual, you provided nothing of substance and completely sidestepped what is being discussed. Your contribution here (and likely society as a whole) is silliness and doctrinal rhetoric. But that's what makes you so endearing to so many.

You would be a true hero though if you gave up your hot spot to all of those weak minded kids you always describe.

By the way, we are still waiting on the peer reviewed study that shows how dangerous soccer is to society if masks aren't worn by players. I know you worship at the pew of bureaucratic organizations but wuz hoping for something sciency to dig into.








Who are called bureaucrats

Any peer reviewed studies about all the dangers of wearing a mask? Any peer reviewed studies of catchiness of ebola on soccer fields? No? So it must be ok to play soccer with people with ebola.

Any peer-reviewed studies on how mutations are making Covid more virulant and deadly?

Interesting how trumpanzees use “peer review” as an excuse to deny science. If there isn’t a peer reviewed study, it must not be happening.
 
Any peer reviewed studies about all the dangers of wearing a mask? Any peer reviewed studies of catchiness of ebola on soccer fields? No? So it must be ok to play soccer with people with ebola.

Any peer-reviewed studies on how mutations are making Covid more virulant and deadly?

Interesting how trumpanzees use “peer review” as an excuse to deny science. If there isn’t a peer reviewed study, it must not be happening.
Funny... the term “peer reviewed” comes from this defending of Mask Use (in which I willingly participate) when confronted by studies/articles saying they are not effective. So now when anyone IT doesn’t agree with brings up “peer reviewed” is a Trump thing.......We’ll just jot that down as a “No” cause IT’s just a bully with ZERO substance.

How’s that cardio routine going while wearing a mask? No, not the trip out of the basement to get more microwave meals....actual running for distance?
 
Funny... the term “peer reviewed” comes from this defending of Mask Use (in which I willingly participate) when confronted by studies/articles saying they are not effective. So now when anyone IT doesn’t agree with brings up “peer reviewed” is a Trump thing.......We’ll just jot that down as a “No” cause IT’s just a bully with ZERO substance.

How’s that cardio routine going while wearing a mask? No, not the trip out of the basement to get more microwave meals....actual running for distance?

Yes, I get that trumpanzees believe masks are not effective against Covid although every single expert with a brain disagrees with that. I get that magats are so desperate that they will use any lack of a peer-reviewed study to deny anything. Wait there is now a peer-reviewed study that Covid isn’t a hoax? OK, well masks don’t work. Oh, now there’s a study saying they do? Well, not one that says children are impervious to Covid. Oops, there’s one of those now? How about impervious to covid on soccer fields? At least impervious on weekends? I don’t see a peer reviewed study about that either.

Magaty magats also ignore that it is mutating into more virulent and dangerous strains, but who gives about how bad it will get until there’s been a peer-reviewed study explaining the 550,000 body count so far and how the virus is now even more dangerous. It can’t possibly be happening if there’s no peer-reviewed study. It’s like your Cadet Bonespurs claiming there is less Covid if you test less. Similarly, if there hasn’t been a peer-reviewed study, it can’t be happening, right?
 
Any peer reviewed studies about all the dangers of wearing a mask? Any peer reviewed studies of catchiness of ebola on soccer fields? No? So it must be ok to play soccer with people with ebola.

Any peer-reviewed studies on how mutations are making Covid more virulant and deadly?

Interesting how trumpanzees use “peer review” as an excuse to deny science. If there isn’t a peer reviewed study, it must not be happening.
I guess the same goes for the flu. You are like a leaf blowing in the political wind. At least the kids are playing in Nor Cal. At least be happy for them.
 
Yes, I get that trumpanzees believe masks are not effective against Covid although every single expert with a brain disagrees with that. I get that magats are so desperate that they will use any lack of a peer-reviewed study to deny anything. Wait there is now a peer-reviewed study that Covid isn’t a hoax? OK, well masks don’t work. Oh, now there’s a study saying they do? Well, not one that says children are impervious to Covid. Oops, there’s one of those now? How about impervious to covid on soccer fields? At least impervious on weekends? I don’t see a peer reviewed study about that either.

Magaty magats also ignore that it is mutating into more virulent and dangerous strains, but who gives about how bad it will get until there’s been a peer-reviewed study explaining the 550,000 body count so far and how the virus is now even more dangerous. It can’t possibly be happening if there’s no peer-reviewed study. It’s like your Cadet Bonespurs claiming there is less Covid if you test less. Similarly, if there hasn’t been a peer-reviewed study, it can’t be happening, right?

What is wrong with you? Nobody is saying here that masks are not effective against Covid, period. Read and take some time to process what you are reading.
What a few people, including myself, are trying to say that this artificial rule to wear masks during soccer games is not workable at least for competitive games. Don't shoot with these naming "trumpanzees or magas or etc." It has nothing to do with it. Don't say that nobody died yet from wearing masks during the game as you can not point out that someone died from playing soccer without wearing a mask. Don't bring the argument about how many people got sick or died per capita in CA versus other states. We are talking about youth sport and it has nothing to do with what happens outside of it. Spectators and subs and coaches are wearing masks, which does make sense. Once the player is off the field he/she puts the mask on, which does make sense.
If you put a rule that wearing a mask is a must then make sure players wearing them and if you see the player not wearing mask then get this player out of the game. In that case the idea of not spreading covid during the game will work. If you are not doing anything about then what this rule is for? Please explain me. I am listening but I don't want you call me names
 
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