Nor Cal Return to Play

Jessiesgirl said:
Watched two games this weekend. One game all the players were required to have their masks on but did not have to have them over their nose/mouth (I really do not understand this logic at all). The other game; one team wore their masks on the field while the other did not. It’s really all over the place.

I’m sure someone will call me a sheep, but I’m not going to complain about any mask rules. Just wear the thing and stop complaining. It’s not going to harm you. Find something else to rebel and complain over. The kids are playing soccer-that’s all that matters.
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With all due respect: I wouldn't call you a sheep but I would call you a fool and for those who mandate wearing a mask for very competitive outdoor sport I call them incompetent of understanding what the competitive sport is. If you think you can wear a mask while sprinting, pushing, and battling for the ball you are completely mistaken. And then saying if you ae out of air and can't breath take it off and put back - that is compromising the purpose of wearing a mask And then you should bring with a you a few more masks as they will get turned and soak. And what I hear from my son's club that they won't enforce to make sure it's on your face but you must have it some where around your face. It's a total farce.

I am totally fine with everyone who asks their kids to wear it but if you permitted to play youth completive outdoor sport then don't make it a farce. Also, it's funny, for the safety of the player it's not allowed to wear any bracelets , any kind of earrings or necklaces but wearing mask around their necks is totally safe.
 
Anon9 said:
Show me the rule. CDPH, SCC, or NorCal.
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From state:

Face Coverings
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I don't think seeing 22 kids on the field with zero masks is what CDPH meant by "as tolerated.". More to the point, the city and county won't read it your way, either.

NorCal will agree with you, but NorCal doesn't issue field permits.

You are putting all of our permits at risk by having your games in this fashion.
 
dad4 said:
From state:



I don't think seeing 22 kids on the field with zero masks is what CDPH meant by "as tolerated.". More to the point, the city and county won't read it your way, either.

NorCal will agree with you, but NorCal doesn't issue field permits.

You are putting all of our permits at risk by having your games in this fashion.
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Why did you leave out an important word after Face coverings? Is that word "should"? "Must"?
 
SFR said:
With all due respect: I wouldn't call you a sheep but I would call you a fool and for those who mandate wearing a mask for very competitive outdoor sport I call them incompetent of understanding what the competitive sport is. If you think you can wear a mask while sprinting, pushing, and battling for the ball you are completely mistaken. And then saying if you ae out of air and can't breath take it off and put back - that is compromising the purpose of wearing a mask And then you should bring with a you a few more masks as they will get turned and soak. And what I hear from my son's club that they won't enforce to make sure it's on your face but you must have it some where around your face. It's a total farce.

I am totally fine with everyone who asks their kids to wear it but if you permitted to play youth completive outdoor sport then don't make it a farce. Also, it's funny, for the safety of the player it's not allowed to wear any bracelets , any kind of earrings or necklaces but wearing mask around their necks is totally safe.
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I already asked them what league this is and no one is answering. Dad 4, what league is this guy saying he will pull his team if no mask? This sound like rec at best. AYSO is way more competitive. I think it's bull crap lie. He even says some T supporter is pacing up and down the fence having a melt down. Listen and listen well folks. No dad with a goat would even be in this league. This is all propaganda bull dung lie is my best guess. Where is Deza BTW?
 
dad4 said:
From state:



I don't think seeing 22 kids on the field with zero masks is what CDPH meant by "as tolerated.". More to the point, the city and county won't read it your way, either.

NorCal will agree with you, but NorCal doesn't issue field permits.

You are putting all of our permits at risk by having your games in this fashion.
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If SCC is following CDPH guidelines, that don't require masks, why should SCC pull field permits? They would pull field permits if we were in violation of the guidance, which clearly is not the case. If SCC comes out and says it's a must, then players will wear them.
 
Anon9 said:
If SCC is following CDPH guidelines, that don't require masks, why should SCC pull field permits? They would pull field permits if we were in violation of the guidance, which clearly is not the case. If SCC comes out and says it's a must, then players will wear them.
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Because their using the kids as pawns like they always do. This is the biggest loser rule ever. Next year they will demand to see the vaccine certificate or no play. No mask, no play. Seriously, you can have the mask league. See ya, my dd would hit waves instead or move to Texas. What are the best players in Nocal doing to stay sharp? I would move to socal or Texas. My wife and I have a camp site out of the state in case this goes where I think it might.
 
Anon9 said:
Why did you leave out an important word after Face coverings? Is that word "should"? "Must"?
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The bad grammar is from CDPH. I just cut and pasted the whole paragraph. Ask them about why they left out the helping verb.

But, if you read the header, the purpose of the most recent edit was to require face coverings.

"Updates since 02/19/2021

  • Updated on March 4, 2021 to add requirements that go into effect March 5, 2021 that would:
    • Require masking for youth and adult sports participants, coaches, and support staff.
    • Specify that teams can return to competition only if they adhere to the stricter requirements in place for college teams, which include rigorous testing requirements around each competition, following contact tracing protocols, and coordination with local health authorities."

Full text of the CDPH rule is here:

Outdoor and Indoor Youth and Recreational Adult Sports

www.cdph.ca.gov www.cdph.ca.gov
 
SFR said:
With all due respect: I wouldn't call you a sheep but I would call you a fool and for those who mandate wearing a mask for very competitive outdoor sport I call them incompetent of understanding what the competitive sport is. If you think you can wear a mask while sprinting, pushing, and battling for the ball you are completely mistaken. And then saying if you ae out of air and can't breath take it off and put back - that is compromising the purpose of wearing a mask And then you should bring with a you a few more masks as they will get turned and soak. And what I hear from my son's club that they won't enforce to make sure it's on your face but you must have it some where around your face. It's a total farce.

I am totally fine with everyone who asks their kids to wear it but if you permitted to play youth completive outdoor sport then don't make it a farce. Also, it's funny, for the safety of the player it's not allowed to wear any bracelets , any kind of earrings or necklaces but wearing mask around their necks is totally safe.
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With all due respect, I would call anyone getting Karen-y over a kid wearing a mask playing a kiddie sport a fool and incompetent of understanding what kiddie sports is, and of taking their kiddie sports way too seriously.

Anyone who thinks that kiddie (they call the “competitive”) sports is so important that they should not wear something that anyone in moderate health can do no problem, is a fool and incompetent of understanding, well, much of anything. In the absence of a medical condition, if your child cannot play soccer in a mask for a couple weeks, they are not college material and, frankly, should not even being playing comp sports since they’re just diluting the quality of play. But congratulations for raising your kid to be soft.

We have all seen a lot of kids playing soccer in masks and, guess what, no one has died. Not one person. We have seen a bunch of whiners though.
 
dad4 said:
The bad grammar is from CDPH. I just cut and pasted the whole paragraph. Ask them about why they left out the helping verb.

But, if you read the header, the purpose of the most recent edit was to require face coverings.

"Updates since 02/19/2021

  • Updated on March 4, 2021 to add requirements that go into effect March 5, 2021 that would:
    • Require masking for youth and adult sports participants, coaches, and support staff.
    • Specify that teams can return to competition only if they adhere to the stricter requirements in place for college teams, which include rigorous testing requirements around each competition, following contact tracing protocols, and coordination with local health authorities."

Full text of the CDPH rule is here:

Outdoor and Indoor Youth and Recreational Adult Sports

www.cdph.ca.gov www.cdph.ca.gov
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crush said:
I already asked them what league this is and no one is answering. Dad 4, what league is this guy saying he will pull his team if no mask? This sound like rec at best. AYSO is way more competitive. I think it's bull crap lie. He even says some T supporter is pacing up and down the fence having a melt down. Listen and listen well folks. No dad with a goat would even be in this league. This is all propaganda bull dung lie is my best guess. Where is Deza BTW?
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I don't think any rec leagues are up and running yet up here. The only game in town is NorCal return to play.

Some high end comp are masking, some are not.

A word from the county would clear it up. I just hope the word isn't "STOP!".
 
dad4 said:
I don't think any rec leagues are up and running yet up here. The only game in town is NorCal return to play.

Some high end comp are masking, some are not.

A word from the county would clear it up. I just hope the word isn't "STOP!".
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You are purposely being deceptive here. The updated mask requirement NEVER states that it is mandatory while playing. It simply states, at the beginning, that masks will be required for participants, coaches, and support staff. The actual wording in the mandate never changed. It still says as tolerated. Seems like you can't tolerate that. 930F5E3E-FCE4-455D-A2DA-05F53A030F75.jpeg
 
Anon9 said:
You are purposely being deceptive here. The updated mask requirement NEVER states that it is mandatory while playing. It simply states, at the beginning, that masks will be required for participants, coaches, and support staff. The actual wording in the mandate never changed. It still says as tolerated. Seems like you can't tolerate that. View attachment 10399
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Why have the rule at all if 0 out of 22 kids can "tolerate" the mask?

That's a clear F.U. to the regulatory body, and we both know it.

The trouble is, when you say F.U. to your permitting agency, you can end up with no permits.
 
dad4 said:
Why have the rule at all if 0 out of 22 kids can "tolerate" the mask?

That's a clear F.U. to the regulatory body, and we both know it.

The trouble is, when you say F.U. to your permitting agency, you can end up with no permits.
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Why have the rule? To encourage mask use.
 
dad4 said:
I don't think any rec leagues are up and running yet up here. The only game in town is NorCal return to play.

Some high end comp are masking, some are not.

A word from the county would clear it up. I just hope the word isn't "STOP!".
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Yes, our game was part of NorCal RTP #1. Agreed that the main issue is to just to keep things going, let us have our games. Hopefully the parents can just play along for now, even if they don't agree with the new rules.
 
PechoFrio said:
Yes, our game was part of NorCal RTP #1. Agreed that the main issue is to just to keep things going, let us have our games. Hopefully the parents can just play along for now, even if they don't agree with the new rules.
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Well, leadership in Sac Town is now blaming all the recall crap on those who dont like mask and are anti vaccine. He said he's ready to fight. I swear i wear a mask but hate it. Can I at least complain about it? I will not tolerate people like you telling me my kid has to wear a mask if she wants to ball. Your new rules suck!!!
 
crush said:
Well, leadership in Sac Town is now blaming all the recall crap on those who dont like mask and are anti vaccine. He said he's ready to fight. I swear i wear a mask but hate it. Can I at least complain about it? I will not tolerate people like you telling me my kid has to wear a mask if she wants to ball. Your new rules suck!!!
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Kids should NOT have to wear masks when playing, it should be totally up to the kid...

But spectators and coaches should wear masks, and everybody eligible should be getting vaccinated.....not saying you have to like it, but let's keep the players playing.....
 
A Gov blames 'anti-mask and anti-vax extremists' for his recall effort, vows to fight them..........

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I need a Doc with a brain to tell if this meme is correct or is this false information. Dad 4, I want no response from you. Please, I'll even take someone on here who knows someone who knows a Doc that can let us know the truth. Thank you, it's much appreciated.
 
futboldad1 said:
Kids should NOT have to wear masks when playing, it should be totally up to the kid...

But spectators and coaches should wear masks, and everybody eligible should be getting vaccinated.....not saying you have to like it, but let's keep the players playing.....
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Please explain eligibility requirements bro? I'm not that desperate to see my dd play......lol.
 
EOTL said:
The American Association of Pediatrics says you’re wrong. Disregarding what they are saying and trashing any sports entity that follows their guidance, as about 10 posters did before I said anything, is hardly “open-minded reasonable discourse”. Too bad that you’re ok with “open-minded reasonable discourse” so long as it is the opposite of that. So here I am.

If you’re living in fear of wearing a mask, although there is no documented evidence that one has ever killed a single person, you and your kid can stay away from soccer fields until all this passes. Between all the anti-vaxxers and all the other trumpanzees who fight every single effort to get Covid under control, it has already taken too long, and will still take linger than it should. Almost 600,000 are dead in the U.S. now.
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wrong about what?
 
EOTL said:
With all due respect, I would call anyone getting Karen-y over a kid wearing a mask playing a kiddie sport a fool and incompetent of understanding what kiddie sports is, and of taking their kiddie sports way too seriously.

Anyone who thinks that kiddie (they call the “competitive”) sports is so important that they should not wear something that anyone in moderate health can do no problem, is a fool and incompetent of understanding, well, much of anything. In the absence of a medical condition, if your child cannot play soccer in a mask for a couple weeks, they are not college material and, frankly, should not even being playing comp sports since they’re just diluting the quality of play. But congratulations for raising your kid to be soft.

We have all seen a lot of kids playing soccer in masks and, guess what, no one has died. Not one person. We have seen a bunch of whiners though.
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I am not sure I understood your comments. But, I guess we have to define what's kiddie sport for you and for me. My kid is having 4 practices a week and a game over weekend. As you can guess, it's very completive league where you need to proof to coach and yourself every single practice you belong there. You try to compete wearing a mask in that environment and I want to see what you say after 5-10 minutes of trying. I even say it's more harm for young athlete to practice and play in that condition.
Again, I am totally fine if your kid or any other kid wear a mask. And, frankly, I am totally fine if they wear a plastic bag with a few holes over their head. It's their rights.
For your argument that not anybody died wearing a mask I'd like to ask you if anyone died of not wearing a mask playing soccer. For me, if based on the science (availability of the data and its analyses and not just what's in someone head after reading some articles from the internet) , the decision was made to allow completive sport then let kids to participate it without masks. If it's still not safe then don't open the sport and keep it on oxygen level (10-25 feet apart of the opponents).
If you really (I mean who ever is in charge) care and want to open sport safely then provide guidance for different categories (Age, Level of play (rec or competitive) , and etc. But, I guess it requires to do more work and cooperates with others. In my understanding it's to much to ask from those who are establishing all those mandates and requirements.
As for calling some folks whiners or something else I will leave it with no comments.
 
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