Nor Cal GDA Teams - What's Next

Don't be afraid...I'm sure your kid's spot and team will be ok. ;)
No reason for me to be afraid. My kid is in a good spot, and I'll leave it at that.
And I'll tell you this, and one time only. I'm here to talk about soccer, and not my kid.
 
LOL. Not sure what I'm expected to forgive. I have nothing against any club or team. My pet peeve is the sense of entitlement. All the teams in the league abided by the rules and didn't any special treatment. Irritating that folks want their kids team to get treated differently because they think they're special.
I hear you but when Earthquakes, Legends, The Top Hat, Solar, Dallas, Beach, Carlsbad ((Their damm good too)) beat teams 21-0, the girls who lost will quit soccer. How about some kind of ECNL Independent League?
 
Not my kid. She isn't on Quakes, or any other GDA team.

But I am sick of the divisions. Bring them all in, try your best to put the top teams together, and play ball.
All I know is that playing in the top group of NPL, a year up, and winning 2 of the 8 games this season by scores 11-0 and 10-1, adding a few more competitive games sounds like a win. I vaguely remember a "play-in tournament" held in the summer a few years back. I am not sure if that was for the top group in NorCal or NPL. I'm thinking at that age it was NorCal. Is that something NPL does?
 
All I know is that playing in the top group of NPL, a year up, and winning 2 of the 8 games this season by scores 11-0 and 10-1, adding a few more competitive games sounds like a win. I vaguely remember a "play-in tournament" held in the summer a few years back. I am not sure if that was for the top group in NorCal or NPL. I'm thinking at that age it was NorCal. Is that something NPL does?

Looks like there's a pathway available? Doesn't say Champions League though. Looks like it's for the bottom 4 places in NPL.
 
Looks like there's a pathway available? Doesn't say Champions League though. Looks like it's for the bottom 4 places in NPL.
Yeah, it's for bottom end NPL. Not champions league spots from what I know.

Should have just stayed at force and in ECNL a few years back. No issue right now then, right? :)

GDL is best for them but issue will be probably can't get enough Nor Cal teams to form a real league especially with travel being unlikely in the fall even if their is a season. If done right, GDL should be more then solid around the country. Showcases good whenever their allowed but regional league is the issue. Politics coming back to bite some of those Nor Cal coaches in the butt. I'm sure many won't feel sorry for them but only the players.
 
Yeah, it's for bottom end NPL. Not champions league spots from what I know.

Should have just stayed at force and in ECNL a few years back. No issue right now then, right? :)

GDL is best for them but issue will be probably can't get enough Nor Cal teams to form a real league especially with travel being unlikely in the fall even if their is a season. If done right, GDL should be more then solid around the country. Showcases good whenever their allowed but regional league is the issue. Politics coming back to bite some of those Nor Cal coaches in the butt. I'm sure many won't feel sorry for them but only the players.
Ahh..assumptions. Both my kids have played at the same club since they started comp soccer. They have never left a coach, a team or a club. They have never needed to, and I hope they still don't need to.
I care about the players. The focus should be on them. The egos and politics disgust me. Let the best players play against each other.
 
Ahh..assumptions. Both my kids have played at the same club since they started comp soccer. They have never left a coach, a team or a club. They have never needed to, and I hope they still don't need to.
I care about the players. The focus should be on them. The egos and politics disgust me. Let the best players play against each other.
I meant they(quakes players/Deza), not you personally. Sorry I Didn't add a few more words to make that clear :)

Agreed. Politics seem to be getting worse by the year too. Scary.
 
I asked my DD and she said she'd love to play ex-GDA teams in Champions League. The competition would be great.

And she wisely pointed out that a few PSV teams joined Champions League after leaving the GDA. They didn't have to start in NPL and work their way up. Just sayin'
 
Yeah, it's for bottom end NPL. Not champions league spots from what I know.

Should have just stayed at force and in ECNL a few years back. No issue right now then, right? :)

GDL is best for them but issue will be probably can't get enough Nor Cal teams to form a real league especially with travel being unlikely in the fall even if their is a season. If done right, GDL should be more then solid around the country. Showcases good whenever their allowed but regional league is the issue. Politics coming back to bite some of those Nor Cal coaches in the butt. I'm sure many won't feel sorry for them but only the players.
Why would I want them in GDL (GAL ?)

I want them in our leagues, so we all get better games.

It probably depends on whether you view league access as a reward system for good behavior, or an accounting device for creating interesting games. I pretty clearly see it purely as a way to set up good games.
 
Why would I want them in GDL (GAL ?)

I want them in our leagues, so we all get better games.

It probably depends on whether you view league access as a reward system for good behavior, or an accounting device for creating interesting games. I pretty clearly see it purely as a way to set up good games.
I'm sure for league play that makes sense but I imagine ex DA teams would prefer real showcases and not just NPL ones. That's the biggest reward. Enough big clubs in GDL the get college coaches from all over coming.
 
I asked my DD and she said she'd love to play ex-GDA teams in Champions League. The competition would be great.

And she wisely pointed out that a few PSV teams joined Champions League after leaving the GDA. They didn't have to start in NPL and work their way up. Just sayin'
Not familiar with how/when PSV teams qualified that year. Maybe they qualified via the summer qualifying event for the younger age groups or qualified for spring Champions League via their performance in the Fall, but I really don’t care.
Here’s the qualification criteria for 2020-2021: https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1DascKA6kPKz1Zn7FSj0HDmQe9PEsSHIVgFSwO8rt4r0/mobilebasic
Hope it helps.
 
ok, what is GDL? all I can find is Club Deportivo Guadalajara, and that doesn‘t seem right. Do you mean GDA, GAL, or some third thing I don’t know about?
I'm sure for league play that makes sense but I imagine ex DA teams would prefer real showcases and not just NPL ones. That's the biggest reward. Enough big clubs in GDL the get college coaches from all over coming.
 
@wc_baller Hey bro, I know I go round and round with my thoughts and ideas. I wasn;t saying you need to forgive, I was only saying ECNL can forgive. However, after more rumor and fact checking last night, I actually agree with you now. No jumping in front of the line or taking spots from others who followed the rules. I have to speak more today about "The List" of 2017 and how that List was used to trick dads and their "one trick ponies" to join "The GDA Traveling Circus." I tried to be a push over and allow a "one time waiver" like they did for all the private school kids so they can have it all. Well, that was short lived. I'm having these dreams that wake me up and it's so cool. The best, happiest dreams ever. I tried to help and my wife said my heart was in the right place. Game on today Baller. Happy Monday to all the clubs up North who followed the rules and actually played by them and did not cheat like others.
 
Good morning and happy 420. Since it’s 420 I got to thinking how everything in NorCal is superior to SoCal. Seriously, who wants to live in LA, San Diego, or Long Beach? I know we are all on lockdown so it’s acceptable that y’all NorCal folks are being all nice and chummy with our lesser brethren in Socal such as @kicker, @Ellejustus, and MAP. To the folks in Vegas and Texas...learn about it and hush up when grown folks are talking! As soon as we are freed I demand that ALL NorCal unite and heckle those only worthy of filling our water bottles.
I dedicate this NorCal 420 anthem to all you. Don’t give us no Bammer!

 
Good morning and happy 420. Since it’s 420 I got to thinking how everything in NorCal is superior to SoCal. Seriously, who wants to live in LA, San Diego, or Long Beach? I know we are all on lockdown so it’s acceptable that y’all NorCal folks are being all nice and chummy with our lesser brethren in Socal such as @kicker, @Ellejustus, and MAP. To the folks in Vegas and Texas...learn about it and hush up when grown folks are talking! As soon as we are freed I demand that ALL NorCal unite and heckle those only worthy of filling our water bottles.
I dedicate this NorCal 420 anthem to all you. Don’t give us no Bammer!

One thing Gavin got right was to make sure those 420 stores were essential. My friend just closed his restaurant for good because he was not essential. That sucks!!! Happy 420 Nocal. One of my best friends from HS dad left him 20 acres in the most fertile lands in Nocal. I'm just glad I have friends in high places.......snap!!!!!!
 
@wc_baller Hey bro, I know I go round and round with my thoughts and ideas. I wasn;t saying you need to forgive, I was only saying ECNL can forgive. However, after more rumor and fact checking last night, I actually agree with you now. No jumping in front of the line or taking spots from others who followed the rules. I have to speak more today about "The List" of 2017 and how that List was used to trick dads and their "one trick ponies" to join "The GDA Traveling Circus." I tried to be a push over and allow a "one time waiver" like they did for all the private school kids so they can have it all. Well, that was short lived. I'm having these dreams that wake me up and it's so cool. The best, happiest dreams ever. I tried to help and my wife said my heart was in the right place. Game on today Baller. Happy Monday to all the clubs up North who followed the rules and actually played by them and did not cheat like others.

Hey buddy, don’t feel so bad about being repeatedly duped by the youth soccer establishment. You are fortunate soccer is only a child’s game to be played for fun. It’s not like you put so much time and effort into, and had so many unreasonable expectations about, something important. Because if you had, you probably would have inadvertently positioned your kid to feel like a failure in life by the time she was 15 for failing to meet daddy’s expectations. That would really suck.
 
Hey buddy, don’t feel so bad about being repeatedly duped by the youth soccer establishment. You are fortunate soccer is only a child’s game to be played for fun. It’s not like you put so much time and effort into, and had so many unreasonable expectations about, something important. Because if you had, you probably would have inadvertently positioned your kid to feel like a failure in life by the time she was 15 for failing to meet daddy’s expectations. That would really suck.
OK Coach.
 
Not familiar with how/when PSV teams qualified that year. Maybe they qualified via the summer qualifying event for the younger age groups or qualified for spring Champions League via their performance in the Fall, but I really don’t care.
Here’s the qualification criteria for 2020-2021: https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1DascKA6kPKz1Zn7FSj0HDmQe9PEsSHIVgFSwO8rt4r0/mobilebasic
Hope it helps.
Thanks for the document. Obviously, NPL would need to have make an exception and open up qualifying Champions League to add teams at this point. They definitely shouldn't remove anyone that already qualified, but could expand for the coming season with a "play-in" tournament.
 
@wc_baller Hey bro, I know I go round and round with my thoughts and ideas. I wasn;t saying you need to forgive, I was only saying ECNL can forgive. However, after more rumor and fact checking last night, I actually agree with you now. No jumping in front of the line or taking spots from others who followed the rules. I have to speak more today about "The List" of 2017 and how that List was used to trick dads and their "one trick ponies" to join "The GDA Traveling Circus." I tried to be a push over and allow a "one time waiver" like they did for all the private school kids so they can have it all. Well, that was short lived. I'm having these dreams that wake me up and it's so cool. The best, happiest dreams ever. I tried to help and my wife said my heart was in the right place. Game on today Baller. Happy Monday to all the clubs up North who followed the rules and actually played by them and did not cheat like others.
Gotcha. Happy Monday to you as well. Glad you're seeing what I see. Lost in this expectation to be granted an entry into the Champions League, is the concern about the team that did the hard work to qualify and will be pushed out by a team that wasn't even in the NPL and got the entry handed to them just because they were part of a special outside league last year. The team who finishes 2nd in NPL2 and got the last spot in the Champions League, played by the rules, earned their spot through hard work of their own. Yeah, they are probably not as talented, but they earned that spot. I'd love one of these ex-GDA dads to explain to a team full of 14 year old girls on the team who was to supposed to get the last spot, their coach and parents, why their kid's ex-GDA team deserves to be in the Champions League more than them without even playing in the league.
 
Gotcha. Happy Monday to you as well. Glad you're seeing what I see. Lost in this expectation to be granted an entry into the Champions League, is the concern about the team that did the hard work to qualify and will be pushed out by a team that wasn't even in the NPL and got the entry handed to them just because they were part of a special outside league last year. The team who finishes 2nd in NPL2 and got the last spot in the Champions League, played by the rules, earned their spot through hard work of their own. Yeah, they are probably not as talented, but they earned that spot. I'd love one of these ex-GDA dads to explain to a team full of 14 year old girls on the team who was to supposed to get the last spot, their coach and parents, why their kid's ex-GDA team deserves to be in the Champions League more than them without even playing in the league.
I agree that no one should get bumped if some kind of exception is made. Make it larger for at least one year at any level that adds a DA team. Play in is a good idea to get the levels right.

I suspect the 14 year old girls in the league now would be happy to play Quakes, Placer, Lamorinda, and Thorns. Those would be fun games. As long as no one is bumped.
 
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