I see your point now dad of 4. I keep thinking "pre" GDA. Now that ECNL is all we really have, they need to change their board rules. Any company can change the rules anytime they want. I'm usually siding with free business but I see that we need to "bend" the rules. Why? For the girls you guys. Their so sick of this and so am I. However, she loves playing with her friends and has so much fun playing soccer. Let's makes this fun again. I'll try to be better and be nicer for the girls sake.
Nor Cal GDA Teams - What's Next
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These clubs shouldn’t come in with the expectation to be playing in the Champions League anytime in the near future. Since none of the ex-GDA teams played in NPL recently because of GDA restrictions. That means they will have to play in a lower bracket when the new season begins, and earn their way up just like everyone else in NPL.
Soccerfan2
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There are at least a handful of teams among those 4 clubs that you should want to get to play against in Champions League next year (assuming they stay in tact).
There are also some teams that would not do as well.
Some of the ECNL teams that play in NorCal Champions League would not do well against some of the DA teams in their age group.
Pointless retribution. Quakes are a great club across the brackets. If you want a season of good games, include Quakes.
Otherwise, you're just prolonging the petty feud that DA started.
Dude, the Champions League is run by NPL and has nothing to do with ECNL/GDA. The NPL is an entirely different organization and is agnostic to all this ECNL/GDA debate. Their rules are their rules.
Every team playing in the NPL Champions League had to earn their way in it. The defending ECNL National Champion had to play in NPL1 for a couple of seasons in order earn they way into the Champions League. And now you're expecting the NPL to let you kid's team to bypass NPL rules and just be granted a spot in the Champions League just because they used to play in GDA? That's a slap in the face to every team in the NPL.
The sense of entitlement with you and soccerfan's expectation get special treatment, to be able jump ahead of every single team in an entirely different league that's not associated with ECNL, and expecting the league to bend their rules for your kids' team, just because your league disbanded is mind-boggling.
youthsportsugh
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Quakes had a couple of teams in the 03-05 ages and Thorns had teams in all 3 03-05 ages as far as NPL goes. The 05 Thorns could definitely hold there own in the champions league, the 04 group would probably be at top of NPL1 and top 5 of champions. 03 would definitely hold own in NPL1, probably top 5 of champions. Quakes have depth and numbers to be quality at all age groups in the champions league. Maybe less so in the 03, but still quality.
Soccerfan2
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That is a weird perspective to me, but ok. My DD’s don’t like missing out on playing other good teams. If another team is going to give them a good challenge get the two teams together. That was the worst part about having both DA and ECNL. Doesn’t it drive everyone nuts knowing there’s another great team to play in the area but you can’t match up with them?
I'm sure they do. My only point was that the teams who didn't play in the NPL previously(the GDA teams from their clubs) shouldn't expect special treatment.
It's only weird to you because you feel entitled. Like I said, the defending ECNL Champion who had been one of the best teams in the entire country for multiple years had to earn their way in. What makes your kid's team so special that they don't have to do the same?
Not my kid. She isn't on Quakes, or any other GDA team.
But I am sick of the divisions. Bring them all in, try your best to put the top teams together, and play ball.
Soccerfan2
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You’d like the Quakes 04 team to stomp every NPL team 15-0 for a season first and the other 04 NPL champions league teams miss out on playing them?
That is not my kid’s team btw, just an example.
That is not my kid’s team btw, just an example.
EQ already has NPL Champion's League teams in the 06 and 05 age groups. This is their second team for those age brackets. So their top team for those age brackets would have to play in a league below their second team? That seems counter intuitive. Also, since they already have teams in the top division, I wonder if higher preforming teams within the same age group could be grandfathered in. I'm not an EQ parent but I know many of them. Great people. They are in a tough spot and what's best for the athletes should remain at the forefront.
MVLA 04's had to do the same. What makes the Quakes 04 team more special than MVLA 04's?
youthsportsugh
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I don't think they should either, they could try to play their way in which I think NPL has something like that for the 1 and 2 levels. Getting the best games for all involved would be the way things should shake out. I don't know if there are out of control scores in any of the levels that would be mitigated by dropping a team from Champions to 1 or 1 to 2 if the DA teams could come in and provide the competition necessary.
Baller, I understand Nocal better. Wow, I like that system. Sorry Quakes, go to NPL and play your way in. Can we make one exception for that 04' team to be granted a one time waiver? I 100% understand rules and if you want a good company, follow the rules from the top down. Tough call but....
The Quakes 04 team might even do that to most of the 03 Champions League teams, too. It is tough being so good!
What would be the best course for them? Friendlies against the best NorCal teams of all ages, some trips to play other teams approaching their level, and ECNL in 21-22?
Soccerfan2
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I think MVLA kids would want to play Quakes kids ASAP. This year is a little unique with the landscape changing so much. Have a solution to sort out who belongs. Qualification event works. Heck the bottom 3 teams in the 05 NPL champions league are Cougars (did they even play? No goals scored) and Placer and Quakes second teams.
My DD’s DA team played 4 of the 7 ECNL teams in the Bay Area conference in the past year and beat them all. Against one club we played all the teams a year older to even things out a bit.
I’m not entitled. Earning it is ok. It would just seem an awful waste for a lot of players (not just the ones on DA teams) to spend a whole season doing that.
When MVLA04 was brought in as 2nd tier, were those games good games?
My bet it they were blowouts and a waste of time for all involved. Let's not repeat that mistake.
You just don't get it. Every other team had to qualify under the current rules. There are teams in the champions league that have already in your word "waste" a season qualifying. They didn't whine, cry and ask for special treatment because they played in another League and had success. They didn't ask for special treatment. They just did it. Petition to NPL if you want the rules changed. That will piss off every single club in NorCal.
Nothing special. It's Corona and it;s time to do a reboot on everything. Mulligan time. Forgiveness is another word comes to mine. You can do it baller.....