Hey buddy, don’t feel so bad about being repeatedly duped by the youth soccer establishment. You are fortunate soccer is only a child’s game to be played for fun. It’s not like you put so much time and effort into, and had so many unreasonable expectations about, something important. Because if you had, you probably would have inadvertently positioned your kid to feel like a failure in life by the time she was 15 for failing to meet daddy’s expectations. That would really suck.
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Hey buddy, don’t feel so bad about being repeatedly duped by the youth soccer establishment. You are fortunate soccer is only a child’s game to be played for fun. It’s not like you put so much time and effort into, and had so many unreasonable expectations about, something important. Because if you had, you probably would have inadvertently positioned your kid to feel like a failure in life by the time she was 15 for failing to meet daddy’s expectations. That would really suck.
OK Coach.
kickingandscreaming
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Thanks for the document. Obviously, NPL would need to have make an exception and open up qualifying Champions League to add teams at this point. They definitely shouldn't remove anyone that already qualified, but could expand for the coming season with a "play-in" tournament.
Gotcha. Happy Monday to you as well. Glad you're seeing what I see. Lost in this expectation to be granted an entry into the Champions League, is the concern about the team that did the hard work to qualify and will be pushed out by a team that wasn't even in the NPL and got the entry handed to them just because they were part of a special outside league last year. The team who finishes 2nd in NPL2 and got the last spot in the Champions League, played by the rules, earned their spot through hard work of their own. Yeah, they are probably not as talented, but they earned that spot. I'd love one of these ex-GDA dads to explain to a team full of 14 year old girls on the team who was to supposed to get the last spot, their coach and parents, why their kid's ex-GDA team deserves to be in the Champions League more than them without even playing in the league.
I agree that no one should get bumped if some kind of exception is made. Make it larger for at least one year at any level that adds a DA team. Play in is a good idea to get the levels right.
I suspect the 14 year old girls in the league now would be happy to play Quakes, Placer, Lamorinda, and Thorns. Those would be fun games. As long as no one is bumped.
No way dude. A lesson has to be made. Go ahead and win 25-0. No problem. Have fun too scoring hat tricks. This is all starting to become clearer now.
25-0? you are punishing the kids on the NPL2 team. Absolutely none of this is their fault. Why be an asshole to them?
Because the assholes in the G D Assholes League ran up scores on everybody. Kicker already said "game on." Their pissed off and they want fu*king revenge and were the ones stuck in the middle. These parents just want pay to play with our money and time. Hell no dude. It's over I think this year. Just go beat up on the girls that followed the rules. Look at some you all mad. My dd followed the rules, left the GD Assholes leagues and made her own path through the last three years. Now, the tables are tuned and you want a seat at the kings table. Wow!!!
MacDre
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I’m a little confused. Could someone explain to me why some have reservations about their kids current team beign broken up or losing their positions on a team? Won’t all kids eventually find a team? Doesn’t playing on a new team present opportunities to make new friends? Doesn’t losing a roster spot help prepare for the reality of a competitive world?
I like sports because they represent the game of life; a little microcosm of the real world. I’m concerned that these kids are being coddled to their detriment.
I like sports because they represent the game of life; a little microcosm of the real world. I’m concerned that these kids are being coddled to their detriment.
sirfootyalot
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I didn’t read the whole thread so I apologize in advance if someone mentioned this already but Quakes girls program is unlikely to exist moving forward. This conversation was already happening prior to this pandemic so I can’t imagine for the organization to keep it going.
youthsportsugh
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From what I understood was that anything not DA wouldn't exist, but the DA would still be there with a larger pool of players and then depending on the week who would play in games. So like 30 girls at practices and such then 18 or whatever travel to games. Now with no DA I don't know what that will look like or if they keep a quakes affiliation like Folsom and stay together or do they go their separate ways (Highly unlikely) go back to being Central Valley.....
Tyler Durden
BRONZE
At this point knowing that a vaccine is at least a year away, I would never put my kid or anyone on a plane until next summer unless it was absolutely necessary. With the likely limitations for gathering sizes and the air travel that will be needed I believe that ECNL should cancel the showcases until spring/summer 2021.
I feel that all league games should be within driving distance of 3 hours at most. With that being said a NorCal ECNL region makes complete sense with all of the GDA and ECNL clubs in it. If you add all the clubs together there are 10 clubs. 10 clubs with 9 games in league would be a good number with a fair amount of competition.
College coaches, just like us working folks, will have to change the way they recruit and scout. All games should be recorded and uploaded for college recruiting. For teams that are located in cities that are difficult to travel to, they will have to figure out there state guidelines for gatherings and play the local competition. I would find it difficult to fly to Boise or Salt Lake City in the next year for soccer.
Space limitations which is currently being used as the reason why the GDA clubs cannot get into ECNL would be irrelevant for the next year. When things are more normal with travel then have showcases. There could be some form of an additional showcase that could accommodate the capacity needs for the teams that have been added. The best idea would be to have some type of club promotion relegation stipulations that would force clubs out that cannot remain competitive to return the numbers to what can be accomodated by the current showcase events.
At this point college sports as a whole will likely look different than they have in the past. Budgets are going to be very tight, which will affect ways that colleges recruit and even if they continue to have programs moving forward.
I feel that all league games should be within driving distance of 3 hours at most. With that being said a NorCal ECNL region makes complete sense with all of the GDA and ECNL clubs in it. If you add all the clubs together there are 10 clubs. 10 clubs with 9 games in league would be a good number with a fair amount of competition.
College coaches, just like us working folks, will have to change the way they recruit and scout. All games should be recorded and uploaded for college recruiting. For teams that are located in cities that are difficult to travel to, they will have to figure out there state guidelines for gatherings and play the local competition. I would find it difficult to fly to Boise or Salt Lake City in the next year for soccer.
Space limitations which is currently being used as the reason why the GDA clubs cannot get into ECNL would be irrelevant for the next year. When things are more normal with travel then have showcases. There could be some form of an additional showcase that could accommodate the capacity needs for the teams that have been added. The best idea would be to have some type of club promotion relegation stipulations that would force clubs out that cannot remain competitive to return the numbers to what can be accomodated by the current showcase events.
At this point college sports as a whole will likely look different than they have in the past. Budgets are going to be very tight, which will affect ways that colleges recruit and even if they continue to have programs moving forward.
While I agree with you when flights will be OK, it's not how elite youth leagues work. US soccer would never add all those teams and ECNL won't either. Of course, for travel and competitive purposes it would be terrific. It makes too much sense for national soccer leaders to make happen
I can say clubs in different leagues setting up for showcase events themselves if no showcases until 2021. Play 2-60 min games on one day with 3-4 clubs for example and invite many coaches.Up and down CA there would be plenty of small showcases you can hold. San Diego, LA, South Bay in No cal, Peninsula, SF, and Marin/Santa Rosa areas, Sacramento, etc.
youthsportsugh
SILVER ELITE
After this the college coaches will not have the budgets (unless football with fans takes place in the fall) to be making a bunch of small trips to 3-4 team "showcases" and probably not to watch mid-tier clubs play who have 1 or 2 top level players. Also would eliminate other than local schools checking in on the players and most likely not out of CA. I think the 3-4 team play dates wouldn't be a bad idea (evenly matched opponents), but each parent would need to have their recording devices out to get video of their girls to send to the coaches whom they want to see it.While I agree with you when flights will be OK, it's not how elite youth leagues work. US soccer would never add all those teams and ECNL won't either. Of course, for travel and competitive purposes it would be terrific. It makes too much sense for national soccer leaders to make happen
I can say clubs in different leagues setting up for showcase events themselves if no showcases until 2021. Play 2-60 min games on one day with 3-4 clubs for example and invite many coaches.Up and down CA there would be plenty of small showcases you can hold. San Diego, LA, South Bay in No cal, Peninsula, SF, and Marin/Santa Rosa areas, Sacramento, etc.
All college athletics will be taking a hit for the next year or 2.
CA does have an advantage of being able to play effectively all year round, so if games can start taking place anytime before spring 2021 the girls could have a legup on other parts of the country for recruiting purposes.
Would be nice if the 4 DA clubs would be included with the 7 existing NorCal ECNL clubs
Yeah, more related to coaches in the area. Nor Cal ones can drive a few hours if needed. So cal the same. Where it really only cost them time and some gas.
We'll see when it all begins but I agree Fall is a toss up right now and how Newsome is talking, wouldn't surprise me if he didn't allow any sports of any kid in the fall. Yes, the was painful to write.
I Imagine leagues will finalize whose involved sometime by June or so.
The Outlaw *BANNED*
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Mustang is already pretty full. I'm not sure there are that many openings anymore.
futboldad1
PREMIER
corona has stopped my move to nor cali and by the time we get there it sounds like it is going to be very hard to find a good option so it helps getting all this news for everyone.....Lots of talent across the length of Cali that is for sure.....
youthsportsugh
SILVER ELITE
Quakes will be an interesting watch as many of the girls travel quite a distance to play there in the DA, but have been in the program for 2+ years. If a few now wanted to play ECNL closer to home (if Quakes don't get in) they could probably call up the local ECNL team and get added then when competition starts again get a looooong look to be on the squad, Mustang included.
There are also a few decent non ECNL landing spots as well with quality coaching
For Quakes 04, the "local ECNL team" is MVLA 04. That is *not* an easy roster to break into, even for a Quakes player.
Better if they accept Quakes. The Quakes/MVLA games would be great.
MacDre
PREMIER
In the case of the Quakes, I think “local” for them is all of NorCal. I noticed there were girls driving from Modesto bypassing LaMorinda. Others were coming from Salinas. I think it’s possible for Davis, Mustang, and MVLA all to get a few Quakes players.