No Soccer - Bad / No School - Catastrophic!

dad4 said:
High end competing for top 20 schools have the option of taking college classes online during senior year.

It’s the next tier down that I‘d worry about. The ones who need the credential of SAT, but can’t just shrug off the extra work of adding a JC class.
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Would require a rethink in the admissions committee. When I was doing admissions work, 2 activities were usually at the bottom of the barrell: high schoolers taking college classes (it's figured that kids who are bright enough to get into a top 20 school should be able to do classwork at this point and showing you are better at taking even college tests doesn't help you distinguish yourself), and jobs (like working at McDonalds or CF). I always thought particularly the job thing was stupid because a job shows maturity and responsibility but in evaluation forms given to interviewers these were usually listed as examples as extracurriculars "without distinction". Maybe thing will change with the pandemic but I doubt it.
 
MARsSPEED said:
Here's my feelings on school closures as it is a concern on the East Coast as well.

Who benefits the most from school closings?
Middle-upper class suburban families, majority is white. Parents can stay home, work, and supervise they're children to make sure they log on while being comfortable.

Who gets hurt the most?
Lower income inner-city and lower income suburban neighborhoods, majority black and latino. Unfortunately these parents cannot afford to stay home and have to make a choice. Those who go to work will likely have kids that don't attend online classes. There are also likely other reasons parents don't enforce attending schools.

This is systematic failure across the United States and a horrible idea. Why would we close schools when Walmart and Target are open? There has not been a major outbreak of those employees of note. The outbreaks have occurred where bars, clubs, and restaurants are open at full capacity as well protests.

Kids don't need to wear mask. CoVid is far less dangerous than the Flu. Teachers' should wear masks and keep hand sanitizer with them at all times. FYI, the lowest infection rates are in extended suburbs, rural areas and cities less than 100,000.
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Bingo... unfortunately, logic and intellectual honesty is Chinese to libs...if it's not emotion or race driven they're not hearing it.
 
paytoplay said:
You do a lot of clueless posting. The choice is between a proud racist and Joe Biden. Biden has overwhelming support from people of color. You can call him old, dull, droll, whatever. But your false equivalency is boring. It amazes me, the cognitive dissonance of you right wingers, your dumb brains. Is Joe woke, or is he racist? It can’t be both.
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What %? I'm just curious. I havent counted but every black person I know is voting for t. I just got off the phone from a teacher who voted democrat his hole life. No joke. Guess who he's voting for in November? Yup, t. I do not hear stories from my friends saying they voted for t and now Joe. Only, "I voted for HC and I will vote t." I see on tv that Mit, Bolton, Bush and few others are going for Joe. Whatever the outcome, I will respect the office.
 
MARsSPEED said:
Ben Carson is arguably one of the most intelligent African Americans on Planet Earth. He came from the depths of the Detroit Ghettos in one of the worst school districts.

#No Excuses
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Horrible example. Gifted education sucks across the board. All gifted kids are getting equally screwed over.
Too bad, many gifted will end up bat shit crazy strung out on drugs because we failed them.

To pretend gifted poor kids like myself and Carson didn’t receive help outside of our families is grossly inaccurate and irresponsible.
 
paytoplay said:
Joe Biden is a fossil, and he’s still going to beat dotard trump by historic margins—we’re talking ‘84 numbers. What a massive failure! 4 years of misery and shitshow, culminating in the collapse of Sports?!? Biden is going to have to clean up a big mess. Why does every republican administration end with the country in ruins?
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Remember when Cankles Rodham was going to destroy Trump?
 
MacDre said:
Horrible example. Gifted education sucks across the board. All gifted kids are getting equally screwed over.
Too bad, many gifted will end up bat shit crazy strung out on drugs because we failed them.

To pretend gifted poor kids like myself and Carson didn’t receive help outside of our families is grossly inaccurate and irresponsible.
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So why did outside families have to help you? What's wrong with YOUR family? I know the answer... want to see if you'll admit it.
 
paytoplay said:
I thought Christians believe in forgiveness. Old white people can ask for forgiveness. It’s called progress. We strive to grow and improve ourselves, dummy. Whereas trump is a proud racist and says and does racist things.
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So when black people were dying like flies in Chicago, and Trump tried to send it the ATF and military in both 2017 and 2020, to save ALL LIVES, and both times the black Chicago mayor said "NO", which part of that was Trump being racist and which part was a black mayor being perfectly okay with black people continuing to die?
 
Desert Hound said:
Yeah we can't have objective standards like the SAT.

UC leadership thinking to themselves....Note to self: We must water down standards even more.
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I see it as eliminating other people from the opportunity. I hate that test as the test to see who is smart. Colleges are losing so many smart people to other trades and schools. They should offer both. You cant offer other options if the first step in is 4.3 and 1400 and in some cases $500,000. Again, not smart and not thinking outside the box. However, many of these Elitist schools will find a way for a basketball player or top football player to come for one year or two and experience the Elitist culture. I say these athletes have been used so the schools can make millions.
 
MacDre said:
I think your analysis is superficial because poor folks were doing bad prior to covid. The poor didn’t have access to education prior to Covid. My neighborhood school has a 1 out of 10 greatschools rating and is under federal indictment for suspending black and Latino kids w/o cause.

The upcoming school year will be more demanding for high income overachieving families because now the families will have to be more hands on in their children’s education instead outsourcing to private schools and tutors.
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Exactly, so let's drop a stay at home order and distance learning on them and their families... Brilliant! You back this political BS, and we're supposed to take you serious about solving issues. GTFOH!
 
Ellejustus said:
I see it as eliminating other people from the opportunity. I hate that test as the test to see who is smart. Colleges are losing so many smart people to other trades and schools. They should offer both. You cant offer other options if the first step in is 4.3 and 1400 and in some cases $500,000. Again, not smart and not thinking outside the box. However, many of these Elitist schools will find a way for a basketball player or top football player to come for one year or two and experience the Elitist culture. I say these athletes have been used so the schools can make millions.
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Spicoli, if you want a trade school, you aren't taking the SAT. You take the SAT to test intelligence. Nobody is forced to take it.
 
Grace T. said:
Would require a rethink in the admissions committee. When I was doing admissions work, 2 activities were usually at the bottom of the barrell: high schoolers taking college classes (it's figured that kids who are bright enough to get into a top 20 school should be able to do classwork at this point and showing you are better at taking even college tests doesn't help you distinguish yourself), and jobs (like working at McDonalds or CF). I always thought particularly the job thing was stupid because a job shows maturity and responsibility but in evaluation forms given to interviewers these were usually listed as examples as extracurriculars "without distinction". Maybe thing will change with the pandemic but I doubt it.
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This is absolutely untrue in regards to my personal experience. I have help kids from Middle College High School (MCHS) with their transfer applications for several years. Top MCHS students don’t have any trouble getting into top universities.
 
paytoplay said:
You do a lot of clueless posting. The choice is between a proud racist and Joe Biden. Biden has overwhelming support from people of color. You can call him old, dull, droll, whatever. But your false equivalency is boring. It amazes me, the cognitive dissonance of you right wingers, your dumb brains. Is Joe woke, or is he racist? It can’t be both.
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Joe having early on-set actually makes you the idiot.
 
The Outlaw said:
Spicoli, if you want a trade school, you aren't taking the SAT. You take the SAT to test intelligence. Nobody is forced to take it.
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I dont see a lot of people with the degrees being so smart these days. In fact, I see a bunch of dummies fighting for power and that does not take brains. Come on man, get your intelligence hat on Outlaw. This hole system is a mess and it needs fixing.
 
MicPaPa said:
Exactly, so let's drop a stay at home order and distance learning on them and their families... Brilliant! You back this political BS, and we're supposed to take you serious about solving issues. GTFOH!
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School opening is not obvious in either direction.

If you do open schools, the school based clusters, and resulting deaths among elderly relatives, will be in the working class neighborhoods, because that’s where the high infection rates are.

If you don’t open schools, the lost educational opportunity will also be focused on the working class neighborhoods.

This is not an easy problem, and it does not have an easy solution.
 
Ellejustus said:
What %? I'm just curious. I havent counted but every black person I know is voting for t. I just got off the phone from a teacher who voted democrat his hole life. No joke. Guess who he's voting for in November? Yup, t. I do not hear stories from my friends saying they voted for t and now Joe. Only, "I voted for HC and I will vote t." I see on tv that Mit, Bolton, Bush and few others are going for Joe. Whatever the outcome, I will respect the office.
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Polling results in my household of Ronaldo-90% disapproval, 10% unsure. Therefore he must sell very few jerseys.
 
MicPaPa said:
Right, in your echo chamber. Kind of like, knowing public schooling falls short and Charters work much better...but call it something else due to a lack of principle...oh, and lack of stones.
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Grace T. said:
More school districts our way announcing remote only: Simi, Moorpark, Oxnard, Santa Barbara Simi's weird....teachers will be teaching from the classroom (and can bring their children to work). From the quotes being reported, it's very clear there's a timeline emerging. Trump made his comments about schools and the unions came out against it. Someone in state health made a decision (either based on 1 of these factors if you are cynical, or serendipity if you are not) and the governor while all this was happening signed off on it. They started by notifying the major districts (LA, SF, SD) and have been going around calling the smaller districts. Perhaps because the governor's unique hatred of the OC, some of those calls have yet to be made and will be made tomorrow am before the announcement tomorrow. It also lends credence to rumors it may not be state wide....just the major counties affected by the Rona so Jefferson might have escaped.

Take it with a grain of salt....it's pretty clear someone at the state is making phone calls and this is coming from the top down but all other details are speculative.
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If you have time, everyone should research what has happened in Israel when schools reopened.
 
dad4 said:
School opening is not obvious in either direction.

If you do open schools, the school based clusters, and resulting deaths among elderly relatives, will be in the working class neighborhoods, because that’s where the high infection rates are.

If you don’t open schools, the lost educational opportunity will also be focused on the working class neighborhoods.

This is not an easy problem, and it does not have an easy solution.
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It's easy. healthy teachers teach the healthy kids in person. Down size and innovate and think the heck outside of the box. Solve the problem. keep in mine, mistakes will be made along the way when folks try to solve a big problem they never faced before.
 
So the choice for president is for a racist or a racist apparently. Two old white guys who having been walking the paths of power or wealth or both for decades. Just as well systemic racism is a nothing thing in either the wealth system or the political system. Two shit candidates IMO demonstrating everything that is wrong in our politics.
 
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