He's certainly a gem.
No games until 2021
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Actually, yes, CA has done better. AZ has about 792 covid deaths per million population. CA has about 422. AZ has done about twice as poorly as CA.
In all, AZ has a pretty awful record on covid. Most of the damage was done in June and July- but it still counts. If you died in July, you’re still dead now.
Don’t read this as support for closing outdoor youth activities in CA. But you need a better argument than “look how well AZ did.”. AZ seriously screwed the pooch with their initial opening in May.
One genius once said New York handled covid the right way. So what’s wrong with saying Arizona is handling it well?
Will very democratic states like WA and OR opening up their youth sports help CA do it soon? I feel like we do many things those states do. I like WA system where what exactly you can do is based on numbers in your county. Games are allowed if you hit certain numbers which are realistic unlike much of the tiered system CA currently has. OR I believe games will happen next month with contact training allowed now. One can only hope!
For context though IIRC California is 25th or 26th worst state so right at the middle. Arizona IIRC is 9th (and also way behind the northeastern states by more than a factor of 2.
Do you know what the stats look like if you compare southern California alone to Arizona? Does that make any difference given the relatively mild outbreak to date in the northern part of the state?
From looking at those numbers, my guess is that the number probably correlate most strongly to: a) the % of the population its gone through (states with higher seroprevalence are higher on the chart, those with lower on the lower end of the chart) and b) when (the earlier the outbreak, the worse the state does).
Welcome to Whacky Wednesday 10.14.20
As Disney goes, so goes soccer and happiness in Socal. We need Mickey to help us all out. No sports, no real school and no Disneyland or Knotts or Magic Mountain or anything that helps kids. Fighting hard as ever to keep some kids from being born. Wow, Holy Toledo Batman!!!!
From the OC Register
Visits to Florida and Southern California theme parks will help a team from Gov. Gavin Newsom’s administration develop long-awaited COVID-19 health and safety guidelines that will allow the state’s major tourist destinations to reopen after seven months of coronavirus closures.
“I know a number of people are continuing to wonder ((you think?)) when that guidance is coming out and I like to say, ‘It will come out when we’re ready,’” ((figures)) California Health and Human Services Secretary Mark Ghaly said.
"Soccer will start up when one decides it will and no sooner, so shut the f up, wear your dam mask, stop complaining, obey, 6 x 6, stay scared, stay home, stay away from your favorite restaurant and stay off the dam fields."
As Disney goes, so goes soccer and happiness in Socal. We need Mickey to help us all out. No sports, no real school and no Disneyland or Knotts or Magic Mountain or anything that helps kids. Fighting hard as ever to keep some kids from being born. Wow, Holy Toledo Batman!!!!
From the OC Register
Visits to Florida and Southern California theme parks will help a team from Gov. Gavin Newsom’s administration develop long-awaited COVID-19 health and safety guidelines that will allow the state’s major tourist destinations to reopen after seven months of coronavirus closures.
“I know a number of people are continuing to wonder ((you think?)) when that guidance is coming out and I like to say, ‘It will come out when we’re ready,’” ((figures)) California Health and Human Services Secretary Mark Ghaly said.
"Soccer will start up when one decides it will and no sooner, so shut the f up, wear your dam mask, stop complaining, obey, 6 x 6, stay scared, stay home, stay away from your favorite restaurant and stay off the dam fields."
Wrong....we live in California, that’s the only reason.
Funny how you say “your kid can’t play...” cause you don’t have any kids that still play. Which is one of several reasons you come on here with your holier than thou attitude. Truth is, your likely a socially inept person who gets off on the quarantine cause you don’t have to interact with scary people. So you come here and puff up your chest with screen names where your safe.
Your POV reeks of entitlement.
Sounds like this is the guy keeping kids from playing.
MacDre
PREMIER
Well what is it about smart guy? Education? GTFOH...learning and becoming a well rounded person consist of more than the 3R’s. Lot’s of opportunities for non-traditional education now. Man go back to your cubicle and summarize those depositions please.
How does showing a kid mommy and daddy will make everything help with the educational process pal? You need to leave room for the possibility that the education all of our kids are getting now is to learn how to deal with adversity.
Yes, and how cheaters cheat and those with power can control our lives. This is great for all of us to learn from. 6-3 or 5-4 is my hope and then I will get what I want. My dd wants to play soccer and I want something way bigger dre. It's big time and will save millions of lives. Come on now, lets help all the kids bro
MacDre
PREMIER
I’m not okay with any. Can you prove any suicides directly related to COVID lockdowns? I’m not talking about a case where the lockdown was one of several factors that drove someone to commit suicide either. Give me some examples where lockdowns have been the primary factor in suicide.
Get a grip.
3Rs were more of a home thing for us, even before covid.
School and sports are where they learn about people. That one is harder to replace.
MSK357
GOLD
What educational opportunities are you talking about? I feel this "pandemic" is really widening the gap between classes and people mainly due to teachers unions and their money influencing a particular political party. I feel bad for lower income families that may not have computers, quality internet connection, and both parents working long hours (if both parents are still in the household).
It's just like 94% of the Covid deaths. Most likely very few killed themselves only because of Covid. The guy whose 83 and got a stroke and rushed to hospital had covid in his blood and we are all told he died of Covid. What did he die of? Suicide is very deep, painful and super sad. All we know Dre, is more and more are killing themselves. I would not blame it on Covid, but maybe the fear that comes with it, all the hate and division in our country makes so many feel numb. I know someone who took pills to feel numb and she took too many. Not sure she was trying to end it all but she took so much she never woke up.
Can you provide data about how many COVID+ cases were directly related to youth soccer? And of those cases what percentage contributed to the spread to others? Additionally, and more importantly, how many of those were fatal or caused long term health concerns or impairments. If we're going to be paranoid then let's first understand the need to be paranoid. I'm not a denier, just a realist.
Mad Hatter
SILVER
I think it really has to do with other factors.
Take for instance Utah.
From what I understand they have been far more lax over the entire covid period vs AZ. But looking at their numbers they have substantially fewer deaths per million vs AZ.
They have been much more open in comparison to CA as well. And their numbers are dramatically lower vs CA.
This would seem to imply that it isn't so much gov mandates or policies that determine what the virus does. It would seem more likely that the virus affects people differently based on location, the makeup of the population, etc.
G-money doesn't have to look very hard to find a fine example of a DEEP BLUE state taking care of their youth sports. NJ kids have been playing sports all summer, even swimming in the same pool (gasp!).
MacDre
PREMIER
I agree 100% but that is not the argument he’s making. I understand his argument as: f*ck soccer...I want my kids back in a brick and mortar school. I could understand the brick and mortar school argument from the local barber or CalTrans worker. But, this guy was coming off as a lawyer to me and I’m calling B.S.