The Covid-19 break played a bit of spoiler with teams fates this year I think. Hard to quantify that. Barca was flat in La Liga after the break. And Barca were massive underdogs going in to this game. They kind of quit toward the end too like they’re U9s, when Coutinho scored twice. He is after all infamously a bust at Barca that they loaned him out, to of all teams Bayern, where he is lucky if he comes off the bench. He could have scored 5 goals and no team would be asking for coutinho next year. If you watched PSG vs Atalanta, of course PSG pulled it out in the final minutes, but two things: Neymar and Mbappe were creating chances at will, and they couldn’t finish anything all game until the end. Should have been comfortably up a few goals, not down.
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Stephen A smith
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I wonder if messi goes back to barca next year.
SoccerFan4Life
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As in covid, Germany is crushing it in champions league as well. Sorry Pulisic and Jimenez, Alfonso Davies is the best North American player. This hurts to say it because I’m a pulisic fanatic but Davies is better.
The 5 man back line was a bit suspect.
BarcaLover
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Hard to compare the 2 because they play different positions, but both have looked VERY good this season. But to your point, Davies may be the best LB in the world right now.....and that’s saying a lot because Andy Robertson is pretty decent and his team has had some success recently
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rainbow_unicorn
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Andy Robertson sucks...overrated.Hard to compare the 2 because they play different positions, but both have looked VERY good this season. But to your point, Davies may be the best LB in the world right now.....and that’s saying a lot because Andy Robertson is pretty decent and his team has had some success recently
BarcaLover
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Everyone is entitled to their opinions.....yours just happens to be wrong
That designation goes to Marcelo
Two years ago, yes. Way too many injuries last couple of years and he's only getting older. Davies is clearly the best LB right now and it's not that close. Not only is he the fastest player in ALL of world soccer, he's got way better offensive skills than any LB out there. It's Davies, then Robertson, and honorable mention to Danny Rose.
Goes to show the most important part of any sport is the PLAYERS. It's not La Masia, it's not TikiTaka, it's not Guardiola, it's not the coaches, it's the PLAYERS!! They hit the jackpot with Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, and Puyol all coming up at once. They thought they were geniuses at La Masia and thought the pipeline would never end because they thought they "created" the players. They may have refined them, but they didn't create them. They need a complete overhaul and better scouting. This is the end of Messi/Ronaldo era. Next superstar Erling Haaland, 20 year old striker from Dortmund.
I'm gonna have to disagree partially. They were doing just fine until they thought any coach would do. Coaching matters in soccer too.
Players matter first but without a good method to refine players, they will not reach their potential. A lot of the La Masia system has been reviewed and adapted or improved by other soccer programs. This may upset a lot of people but a lot of players that went thru the DA system, at least partially, are doing very well right now in Europe.
Um Andrew Robertson says hello.... But.. Davies was very impressive for 19. Don't know he will be LB for long though.
Important thing about Barca is the system. The right players committed to a special brand of soccer. The club did not find replacements for players that left, Iniesta, Neymar. They’ve been making do. Attrition catches up eventually. And Barca were exposed...in the quarters of Champions League to the team that will likely win the tournament.
Both are moving up fast and will surpass Marcelo as his career comes to a close. Davies is and will be a lot of fun to watch over his career and Robertson is in the conversation for sure.
And now they are saying the Barca style is out of date. When your system relies on a once in a generation talent (messi) to work it may not be replicate-able. Pep was the one to introduce it and without Messi it likely doesn't work.
The other issue is Real Madrid and Barca can no longer dominate the leagues financially. They can't go and buy whoever they want and right now and are no longer the desirable locations they once were. They will have pull in Spain and from the South American countries but I am thinking La Liga will face significant headwinds for the foreseeable future.
Desert Hound
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I was reading last night that Messi wants out. And wants out now.
Lionel Messi wants out at Barcelona after Champions League disaster, per report
The Argentine's contract is set to expire after next season
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On the flip side, he pushed for the hiring of thE new Manager. Maybe his, “I want out” was a hard line against the ousted manager.I was reading last night that Messi wants out. And wants out now.
Lionel Messi wants out at Barcelona after Champions League disaster, per report
The Argentine's contract is set to expire after next season
Interesting study. But it's highly flawed.
First San Diego only allowed soccer under day camp rules during study so social distancing, masks, grouped activities were mandated. No games happened.
What is the rate if transmission during open practice and games?
What is the rate of transmission between teans from different cities?
It's also summer and high heat low humidity kills the Virus. What happens in fall when weather is more favorable to viral spread?
We are not going to get any answers because pro teams that are playing real games are doing so in strictly closed bubbles.
First San Diego only allowed soccer under day camp rules during study so social distancing, masks, grouped activities were mandated. No games happened.
What is the rate if transmission during open practice and games?
What is the rate of transmission between teans from different cities?
It's also summer and high heat low humidity kills the Virus. What happens in fall when weather is more favorable to viral spread?
We are not going to get any answers because pro teams that are playing real games are doing so in strictly closed bubbles.
More of a position piece than a scientific study.
Some pro/semi leagues have been playing locally in USL and other leagues. Some limited outbreaks so far and corrective measures taken and they will be continuing on. In another 2-3 months there should be more real world data on the risks of actually game play for that group which is mostly adults but there is some high school aged players participating.
Dallas has been training normally for about 3 months now. Been playing games and traveling and doing tournaments for about 6 weeks.
What is the rate if transmission during open practice and games? So far, 0%.
What is the rate of transmission between teams from different cities? So far, 0%
It's also summer and high heat low humidity kills the Virus. What happens in fall when weather is more favorable to viral spread? Good question, and definitely something to keep an eye on. It's hot as hell here, and that may be contributing to the apparent safety so far.
We are not going to get any answers because pro teams that are playing real games are doing so in strictly closed bubbles. I don't think a pro or college environment (where players live, eat, train, meet, and also play soccer together) is the best proxy for this. If you look at other high school sports where the sleep/eat/train/meet part of the equation is removed, I think it becomes more of an apples to apples comparison. Texas high schools did a study of the more than 165,000 instances of kids who participated in football practices this summer, and there were 4 cases of player-to-player transmission due to the workouts. That means about 1 in about 16,000, or a 0.006%, of players who participated in a practice caught the virus. That's probably a better comparison to use for soccer risk than most other things I've seen.