New ECNL Clubs

Dos Equis said:
Last year, I heard from sources within ECNL and locally that the "finalists" from all the club applications to get ECNL in Socal were Westside Breakers, Fullerton, Fram and Rebels (not sure about BYSC, heard conflicting reports). Obviously, Breakers presented a strong coaching and geographical case for entry, and I would argue their performance as LA Breakers validated that decision.

The challenge in ECNL adding clubs now is that the DA, ECNL, Premier, DPL, SCDSL . . . league dilution bingo has left very few/no Socal clubs with top teams in multiple age groups in any club that are not already DA or ECNL. So if ECNL wants to grow without allowing clubs with teams in DA, they either need to 1) get an exisintg DA club to leave for ECNL, or 2) select a geographical area they think has a large number of elite players underserved by the ECNL and find the club they think has the history, structure, fields and coaching staff needed to attract talent and build competitive teams (like Breakers did).
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It takes an hour (or more) to get to Breakers from N. LA County and from S. LA County. It would've been nice to see options for both of those areas. The afternoon traffic is absolutely horrid in LA area and people just won't do it. Hence, ECNL is basically not an option. They should know that.
 
Real Deal said:
It takes an hour (or more) to get to Breakers from N. LA County and from S. LA County. It would've been nice to see options for both of those areas. The afternoon traffic is absolutely horrid in LA area and people just won't do it. Hence, ECNL is basically not an option. They should know that.
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It doesn't care. It only selects clubs that don't represent a threat to ECNL's current membership. That seems to be ECNL's most important criteria. It's obviously far too insular. The only check on ECNL is competition.
 
Dos Equis said:
Last year, I heard from sources within ECNL and locally that the "finalists" from all the club applications to get ECNL in Socal were Westside Breakers, Fullerton, Fram and Rebels (not sure about BYSC, heard conflicting reports). Obviously, Breakers presented a strong coaching and geographical case for entry, and I would argue their performance as LA Breakers validated that decision.

The challenge in ECNL adding clubs now is that the DA, ECNL, Premier, DPL, SCDSL . . . league dilution bingo has left very few/no Socal clubs with top teams in multiple age groups in any club that are not already DA or ECNL. So if ECNL wants to grow without allowing clubs with teams in DA, they either need to 1) get an exisintg DA club to leave for ECNL, or 2) select a geographical area they think has a large number of elite players underserved by the ECNL and find the club they think has the history, structure, fields and coaching staff needed to attract talent and build competitive teams (like Breakers did).
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IMO Rebels is a strong candidate for ECNL. They fill a need geographical need and have the proven results. The girls DOC is doing a fantastic job and I think they would make an immediate impact in ECNL next year.

Westside Breakers is a different story. They didn't really have the track record of being a strong club (they won a National Cup for the 1st time last year with the G02 age group.) And they added a struggling boy’s side (FCLA) and re-named the club LA Breakers. Their record in ECNL is 16 Wins, 51 Losses, 6 ties with 75 Goals For and 203 Goals against. They are in danger of losing their main field (https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-va-lease-audit-20181005-story.html) and I am not sure how strong their coaching staff is considering the fall record. Most of their teams finished in last place with lopsided losses of 0-5, 0-7 in many games. The box they checked was solely geographical, but nobody can get there due to the heavy traffic on the 405.

I can assure you now that the LA Breakers are on the inside they will do everything they can to not allow FRAM in or any other LA based clubs to gain ECNL status cause it will weaken the pool of players they have to draw from. Will be interesting to see what move ECNL makes next...
 
AstroWorld said:
IMO Rebels is a strong candidate for ECNL. They fill a need geographical need and have the proven results. The girls DOC is doing a fantastic job and I think they would make an immediate impact in ECNL next year.

Westside Breakers is a different story. They didn't really have the track record of being a strong club (they won a National Cup for the 1st time last year with the G02 age group.) And they added a struggling boy’s side (FCLA) and re-named the club LA Breakers. Their record in ECNL is 16 Wins, 51 Losses, 6 ties with 75 Goals For and 203 Goals against. They are in danger of losing their main field (https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-va-lease-audit-20181005-story.html) and I am not sure how strong their coaching staff is considering the fall record. Most of their teams finished in last place with lopsided losses of 0-5, 0-7 in many games. The box they checked was solely geographical, but nobody can get there due to the heavy traffic on the 405.

I can assure you now that the LA Breakers are on the inside they will do everything they can to not allow FRAM in or any other LA based clubs to gain ECNL status cause it will weaken the pool of players they have to draw from. Will be interesting to see what move ECNL makes next...
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The Breakers coaching I was referring to was the affiliation with UCLA they announced in their press release. I have only seen their 16's and 17's play, and they were clearly attempting to play an appealing style of soccer. I stand corrected on the performance of their U13-U15 teams, and I have not seen them play, so hard to judge in their first year.

There is almost no "easy" place to get to if it is 10 miles or more away from you in the area from Long Beach to Sherman Oaks, and from the coast to 20 miles inland, without terrible north/south or east/west Traffic.

Rebels makes sense in some categories, but what South Bay, LA or SF Valley based clubs at this point make sense to add in terms of fields, coaches, club structure/ethics and track record/history? I leave recent performance out because at this point, there really is no existing non-DA/ECNL club that has teams ready to compete. They are going to have to use their new league status to recruit.
 
Dos Equis said:
The Breakers coaching I was referring to was the affiliation with UCLA they announced in their press release. I have only seen their 16's and 17's play, and they were clearly attempting to play an appealing style of soccer. I stand corrected on the performance of their U13-U15 teams, and I have not seen them play, so hard to judge in their first year.

There is almost no "easy" place to get to if it is 10 miles or more away from you in the area from Long Beach to Sherman Oaks, and from the coast to 20 miles inland, without terrible north/south or east/west Traffic.

Rebels makes sense in some categories, but what South Bay, LA or SF Valley based clubs at this point make sense to add in terms of fields, coaches, club structure/ethics and track record/history? I leave recent performance out because at this point, there really is no existing non-DA/ECNL club that has teams ready to compete. They are going to have to use their new league status to recruit.
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AstroWorld said:
IMO Rebels is a strong candidate for ECNL. They fill a need geographical need and have the proven results. The girls DOC is doing a fantastic job and I think they would make an immediate impact in ECNL next year.

Westside Breakers is a different story. They didn't really have the track record of being a strong club (they won a National Cup for the 1st time last year with the G02 age group.) And they added a struggling boy’s side (FCLA) and re-named the club LA Breakers. Their record in ECNL is 16 Wins, 51 Losses, 6 ties with 75 Goals For and 203 Goals against. They are in danger of losing their main field (https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-va-lease-audit-20181005-story.html) and I am not sure how strong their coaching staff is considering the fall record. Most of their teams finished in last place with lopsided losses of 0-5, 0-7 in many games. The box they checked was solely geographical, but nobody can get there due to the heavy traffic on the 405.

I can assure you now that the LA Breakers are on the inside they will do everything they can to not allow FRAM in or any other LA based clubs to gain ECNL status cause it will weaken the pool of players they have to draw from. Will be interesting to see what move ECNL makes next...
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VA is not the Main field for ECNL teams. Breakers was not one of the illegal tenants. While I agree overall the teams are weak , the 02 and 03 look strong. As far as the traffic, it sucks but this was a huge area that DA and ECNL missed. High level players were forced to leave the area and trek to Real, Eagles, Slammers etc..
 
terrence said:
VA is not the Main field for ECNL teams. Breakers was not one of the illegal tenants. While I agree overall the teams are weak , the 02 and 03 look strong. As far as the traffic, it sucks but this was a huge area that DA and ECNL missed. High level players were forced to leave the area and trek to Real, Eagles, Slammers etc..
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The VA is the main practice field for the club and its fields are used for some of the regular club teams as well as some ECNL teams (the GU13, for instance, has used the VA field for games). If (or when) they lose the VA, there will be pressure put on its remaining fields, including those that might have been previously reserved for the ECNL teams. Moreover, the main club may spill over into fields used by other area clubs, which will put pressure on those clubs to push for more time at the fields (e.g., Uni HS and Pali HS) used by the ECNL teams. As it is, there are other clubs using those fields, plus two AYSO regions. Much like traffic, field space is a mess on the westside.
 
FernandoFromNationalCity said:
Crazy to think that the rebels wouldn’t want a higher tier league especially having to compete against Albion’s DA
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So DA or nothing? Rebels gets ECNL, my pitch might be access to 4 national college showcases a year, the ability to play against some of the most talented players in the country, and a well-organized, established league with a proven track record of putting their member clubs and players first. If I had to address Albion as competition, at the risk of sounding negative, their record across all age groups in their second year in the DA is signing up for a whole lot of "development."

But ultimately is comes down to coaching at the younger ages (and at the olders as well), not leagues, and I do not have insight into Rebels vs. Albion staff. I expected Albion's coaching staff to produce better results, so perhaps you have insight into their performance.
 
Dos Equis said:
So DA or nothing? Rebels gets ECNL, my pitch might be access to 4 national college showcases a year, the ability to play against some of the most talented players in the country, and a well-organized, established league with a proven track record of putting their member clubs and players first. If I had to address Albion as competition, at the risk of sounding negative, their record across all age groups in their second year in the DA is signing up for a whole lot of "development."

But ultimately is comes down to coaching at the younger ages (and at the olders as well), not leagues, and I do not have insight into Rebels vs. Albion staff. I expected Albion's coaching staff to produce better results, so perhaps you have insight into their performance.
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Who has insight to coaching for ECNL/DA clubs in the San Diego and LA regionS we’re talking about?

Albion coaching for DA teams only?
Sharks ECNL coaches?

Rebels potentially?
LA POTENTIAL?
 
Dos Equis said:
So DA or nothing? Rebels gets ECNL, my pitch might be access to 4 national college showcases a year, the ability to play against some of the most talented players in the country, and a well-organized, established league with a proven track record of putting their member clubs and players first. If I had to address Albion as competition, at the risk of sounding negative, their record across all age groups in their second year in the DA is signing up for a whole lot of "development."

But ultimately is comes down to coaching at the younger ages (and at the olders as well), not leagues, and I do not have insight into Rebels vs. Albion staff. I expected Albion's coaching staff to produce better results, so perhaps you have insight into their performance.
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I honestly think rebels have the right formula for development (possession base) with coach Gabe for the littles , Coach Abel/Cam for the middle age and coach Ryan for the olders..whether it’s for da or ecnl. But for whatever reasons be da or ecnl haven’t really gave Rebels the chance to get in these leagues (beside the boys 07 who won state cup and now they’re da) There’s a lot of talent in the south bay leaving this area to go play for teams that have the higher tier leagues in north county or la..Now if they get da or ecnl that cuts the pipeline hopefully and the talent might stay in the South Bay..
 
FernandoFromNationalCity said:
I honestly think rebels have the right formula for development (possession base) with coach Gabe for the littles , Coach Abel/Cam for the middle age and coach Ryan for the olders..whether it’s for da or ecnl. But for whatever reasons be da or ecnl haven’t really gave Rebels the chance to get in these leagues (beside the boys 07 who won state cup and now they’re da) There’s a lot of talent in the south bay leaving this area to go play for teams that have the higher tier leagues in north county or la..Now if they get da or ecnl that cuts the pipeline hopefully and the talent might stay in the South Bay..
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Thank you
 
What are Rebels club fees right now for the top girls teams, just for registration, coaching and uniform?
 
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