Megan-Rapinoe - media ho

Glen said:
This is a decent article comparing actual US police related fatalities compared to other countries: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries

It seems pretty obvious that we could be handling this better, regardless of any statistical certainties.
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I agree that with the discretion and authority granted, comes added responsibility.
What I have a problem with, is the racist BLM agenda that divides us along racial lines.
The numbers dont back up the so called, "war on black people" they claim police are engaged in.
Statistically, the numbers just dont add up.
 
Glen said:
This is a decent article comparing actual US police related fatalities compared to other countries: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries

It seems pretty obvious that we could be handling this better, regardless of any statistical certainties.
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With this, you need to account for the number of murders commited in the US.
Im not defending bad cops, believe me, I am on board with 86ing them from the payroll.
What you cannot do, is compare our country with lesser countries.
We have freedoms here other countries do not.

We can always do better.
What I am saying is, the rioting is not in line with the stats.
There are people using these anomalies to divide us.
"Kap", and Meganho are pawns leading the lemming herd.
 
NoGoal said:
Um, Kap protesting the National Anthem is the subject matter. He is protesting white cops killing unarmed black men. Not who are killing black men, so E's post is spot on.
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I don't know why I bother engaging in a futile battle with a couple dim bulbs but here goes... Although I don't personally agree with Kap's method of protest, he does have the right to do so. As I stated in a previous post however, rather than kneel during the anthem, which is offensive to many (especially those who have, or are serving in our armed forces) and won't do jack squat to change anything, why doesn't he actually do something and get some fellow pro athletes together with law enforcement and get into these hard hit communities and actually be a change agent?

Maybe African Americans (and other racial groups) will kill one another less if they had some programs to teach them better life skills. All these mega athletes kneeling, raising their hands or whatever doesn't mean squat when they drive back home to their mega mansions in their Bentleys and make reservations for dinner at Nobu.
 
Bernie Sanders said:
I agree that with the discretion and authority granted, comes added responsibility.
What I have a problem with, is the racist BLM agenda that divides us along racial lines.
The numbers dont back up the so called, "war on black people" they claim police are engaged in.
Statistically, the numbers just dont add up.
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I don't agree with the BLM agenda either or looting, etc. I do happen to agree that police tactics, incarceration (e.g., private prisons), and certain criminal laws (e.g., drug laws) should be changed. If that happens to put me in line with some folks in the BLM movement, so be it.

I appreciate the respectful debate. Best of luck to you Bernie.
 
Glen said:
I believe this officer has been charged with murder. But without the video, it would never have happened. The two officers lied about what happened in their statements. Some are apparently calling for the second, assisting officer (who happens to be African American) to be charged for helping cover it up.

The stop and frisk statistics, as well as the incarceration statistics, are hardly statistical anomalies. Even the death statistics are not anomalies when you compare them to the minuscule number of police officer that die per year. In my opinion, the killings caught on tape are just highlight reel exemplars of the broader issues with police tactics. This stuff doesn't happen by accident and is clearly not limited by race:


In Chicago, for example, you cannot deny there is a clear pattern of covering up police shootings (whether the person died or not). It's frightening when the guys we pay to protect us, and you give so much discretion, are covering up for each other. We should come down on them harder because of that trust. We certainly shouldn't make endless excuses for them.
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There aren't more cops killing innocents than there used to be. There are just more cameras.
 
SpeedK1llz said:
As I stated in a previous post however, rather than kneel during the anthem, which is offensive to many (especially those who have, or are serving in our armed forces) and won't do jack squat to change anything, why doesn't he actually do something and get some fellow pro athletes together with law enforcement and get into these hard hit communities and actually be a change agent?
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That's exactly what he is doing. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...-nate-boyer-protest-national-anthem/89842356/
 
espola said:
There aren't more cops killing innocents than there used to be. There are just more cameras.
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I think it was much worse before cameras
Glen said:
That's exactly what he is doing. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...-nate-boyer-protest-national-anthem/89842356/
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Then he should stand up, put his hand over his heart and pay homage to the country that enables him to do so.
Its not Americas fault a few bad cops are out there.
Its because of America he's able to make a difference.
He may mean well, he's just being an ignorant ass about it, and actually making things worse.
I hope he doesnt wear his pig socks to the meeting.
 
Bernie Sanders said:
I think it was much worse before cameras

Then he should stand up, put his hand over his heart and pay homage to the country that enables him to do so.
Its not Americas fault a few bad cops are out there.
Its because of America he's able to make a difference.
He may mean well, he's just being an ignorant ass about it, and actually making things worse.
I hope he doesnt wear his pig socks to the meeting.
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You must be a fan of Twain too . . . "the only rational patriotism, is loyalty to the Nation ALL the time, loyalty to the Government when it deserves it."
 
Bernie Sanders said:
With this, you need to account for the number of murders commited in the US.
Im not defending bad cops, believe me, I am on board with 86ing them from the payroll.
What you cannot do, is compare our country with lesser countries.
We have freedoms here other countries do not.

We can always do better.
What I am saying is, the rioting is not in line with the stats.
There are people using these anomalies to divide us.
"Kap", and Meganho are pawns leading the lemming herd.
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I read something today that said 71% of the protesters arrested in N C the last few days are from out of state.
If true that should change the narrative.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-22/
 
Bernie Sanders said:
No matter how well trained, or how careful anyone is, there is no such thing as a perfect record.
As long as there are cops, there will be people shot and killed unjustly by them. Its a statistical certainty.
If you look at the actual numbers, its amazing how few do get shot.
Look how many times someone goes into the hospital to get well, and comes out dead.
Sometimes they were due, and sometimes carelessness or negligence kills them. It will always happen as long as people are imperfect creatures.
To riot, loot stores, and attack people in racist mobs as a result of a statistical anomaly, is insane.
If a cop shoots someone, and its proven criminal, they should face the music, but once again, things arent always just.
Cops get a little more leeway than the rest of us, and it will always be that way.
They have the authority to carry loaded weapons and use them with discretion. The rest of us do not.
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It doesn't mean it has to remain status quo, there can always be change for the better.
 
Glen said:
I believe this officer has been charged with murder. But without the video, it would never have happened. The two officers lied about what happened in their statements. Some are apparently calling for the second, assisting officer (who happens to be African American) to be charged for helping cover it up.

The stop and frisk statistics, as well as the incarceration statistics, are hardly statistical anomalies. Even the death statistics are not anomalies when you compare them to the minuscule number of police officer that die per year. In my opinion, the killings caught on tape are just highlight reel exemplars of the broader issues with police tactics. This stuff doesn't happen by accident and is clearly not limited by race:


In Chicago, for example, you cannot deny there is a clear pattern of covering up police shootings (whether the person died or not). It's frightening when the guys we pay to protect us, and you give so much discretion, are covering up for each other. We should come down on them harder because of that trust. We certainly shouldn't make endless excuses for them.
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Here is proof regarding stop and frisk, since the subject was brought up by Trump last Wednesday during his town hall meeting with Hannity.

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https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.n...s-real-message-on-race.amp.html?client=safari
 
espola said:
Do you get all your hot news from that Putin-fondling site?
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Do you not believe? What a great distraction, a manufactured crisis right after she is filmed being thrown into a van like a dead salmon and when her e-mail problem is getting worse.
You do remember rahm emanuel saying never let a good crisis go to waste?
 
Bernie Sanders said:
With this, you need to account for the number of murders commited in the US.
Im not defending bad cops, believe me, I am on board with 86ing them from the payroll.
What you cannot do, is compare our country with lesser countries.
We have freedoms here other countries do not.

We can always do better.
What I am saying is, the rioting is not in line with the stats.
There are people using these anomalies to divide us.
"Kap", and Meganho are pawns leading the lemming herd.
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Bernie, what do you mean by "freedoms"? We have the highest incarceration rate per capita of any major country in the world.
 
NoGoal said:
It doesn't mean it has to remain status quo, there can always be change for the better.
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What did I say ?
The same goes for knee jerk, displays of solidarity with questionable leftist front groups.
Look at the numbers.
Cops aren't at war with black people.
They're people doing a job that involves interacting with people of all races who may or may not be breaking the law.
They screw up sometimes just like you do, and some of them are prejudiced just like you are.
 
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