2010 southwest ECNL girls based on unbiased picks of the 18? Absolutely yes against any other 2010 team assembled. And no the "other" 2010 team cannot have any southwest players on it that didn't make the cut of 18 because I will even go as far to say that a second team of 2010 Southwest ECNL girls would also do very well against any other 2010 team assembled. What leads you to believe this is so far fetched?
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Why farfetched?
Because I’ve seen so many top individuals outside of socal.
SW only has 3 of the top 10 teams. The other 7 are from other regions. And most of them are on top because of 1-3 star players. That’s a lot of fire power outside of SW.
Well this is the SoCal Soccer forum so of course we have the best girls no questioned asked!!!
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Nobody cares what you saw in 2017. Its 2025 move on.
Nobody? God cares, the truth cares, crush cares, Luis cares and so do all the other fathers with daughters who are lied to by real cheating assholes who lie to little girls with dreams to make a buck off their hard work. I was told by a Doc just like you the same thing
Good luck to all the cheaters in youth soccer. Accountability is coming to your door very soon.
rainbow_unicorn
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if you believe that then you'll also have to say "top teams are built and destroyed by parents"
yes they are
Luis was referring to only 2010.
So while I agree that, in general for any given year, it would be hard for a CA only team to defeat a rest-of-US team (the US is too big and there's talent throughout the country), Luis seems to be on to something for the 2010 age group specifically if you look at the rankings.
For 2010, CA has 4 of the top 5 teams in the USA (#1, 3, 4, and 5). That's pretty damn impressive. And if you extend the rankings to your comment about top teams being made by the top 1-3 star players, there's a lot of tip-of-the-spear talent in just those 4 teams.
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And they play each other more than they play anyone with with minor margins which means you stay in the top 5 further perpetuating a narrative that is true in many ways, but not all and the dominance part just is not true for one single age group I've lived in two ECNL markets and know a third intimately becuase of family. SW is king no argument, but elite talent is spread out as it should be as soccer can be mastered anywhere an in most environments. Come to ECNL NC one spring and test yourself against some East Coast teams. For example the only time any of your teams do come East its for nationals In Richmond where the last two summers yes Koge walked away with the chip playinng against another Cali team in final each time. However they were not steamrolling these non-Cali teams on their path to vicotry. All the games are close. If you were to make an all tournament team from the final 8 teams it would not be all Cali girls, period.
Here’s the deal: I didn’t mean to cause such stir but this topic makes a good debate. The reality is that the USA has enough talent and depth to build multiple national teams. The reason I made my previous statement is based on my observations over the past few years, watching top players in this age group compete in the ECNL playoffs and finals, as well as attending an East Coast Pro ID camp. There, I had the chance to see some of the best talent from the East, South, and Central regions.
One key difference I’ve noticed about the player pool in California for this age group is their ability to play possession-based soccer at a higher level than players from other regions. I’m not saying they are more talented or more athletic, but they demonstrate better composure in possession, which I haven’t seen as consistently in top players from the Central and East regions. Those regions tend to excel in a more direct style of play but often struggle with composure when maintaining possession...imo
On the other hand, a California all-star team would thrive in a more dynamic style, seamlessly blending possession-based play with direct and counter-attacking tactics. I know this perspective might seem bold to some, but based on what I’ve seen, it holds true at this moment in time for me.
I’d even argue that the 2010 California all-star team is unique because of how they developed during the COVID era. When much of the country shut down, many kids stopped playing on grass fields. However, in California, many 2010-born players & younger who didn’t fully comply with restrictions, continued playing in small spaces, often turning to futsal and arena soccer. As a result, they became extremely comfortable with the ball in tight spaces. This period also saw an explosion in private technical training, which further enhanced their footwork and overall skill level.
You can see the difference today inplayers born in 2010 and beyond are noticeably more technical than those from 2009, 2008, 2007, and earlier. The California 2010 all-star team is a special group, shaped by unique circumstances that set them apart from previous generations.
And to those who think it’s unrealistic to form a dominant national team solely from California’s 2010 talent pool, look at Uruguay. With a population of only 3.5 million, they consistently produce world-class teams. California alone has nearly 40 million people, with a deeply ingrained soccer culture. Given the depth and quality in this specific age group, it’s not far-fetched at all to say a team built solely from California’s top 2010s could be elite on the national stage.
IMO this is the opportunity to finally change the style of play for USA starting with 2010’s… if they want to build a dynamic female team that can play possession soccer at a very high level while at the same time leverage the athleticism, speed, work rate that USA teams traditionally have. It all starts with the 2010’s
One key difference I’ve noticed about the player pool in California for this age group is their ability to play possession-based soccer at a higher level than players from other regions. I’m not saying they are more talented or more athletic, but they demonstrate better composure in possession, which I haven’t seen as consistently in top players from the Central and East regions. Those regions tend to excel in a more direct style of play but often struggle with composure when maintaining possession...imo
On the other hand, a California all-star team would thrive in a more dynamic style, seamlessly blending possession-based play with direct and counter-attacking tactics. I know this perspective might seem bold to some, but based on what I’ve seen, it holds true at this moment in time for me.
I’d even argue that the 2010 California all-star team is unique because of how they developed during the COVID era. When much of the country shut down, many kids stopped playing on grass fields. However, in California, many 2010-born players & younger who didn’t fully comply with restrictions, continued playing in small spaces, often turning to futsal and arena soccer. As a result, they became extremely comfortable with the ball in tight spaces. This period also saw an explosion in private technical training, which further enhanced their footwork and overall skill level.
You can see the difference today inplayers born in 2010 and beyond are noticeably more technical than those from 2009, 2008, 2007, and earlier. The California 2010 all-star team is a special group, shaped by unique circumstances that set them apart from previous generations.
And to those who think it’s unrealistic to form a dominant national team solely from California’s 2010 talent pool, look at Uruguay. With a population of only 3.5 million, they consistently produce world-class teams. California alone has nearly 40 million people, with a deeply ingrained soccer culture. Given the depth and quality in this specific age group, it’s not far-fetched at all to say a team built solely from California’s top 2010s could be elite on the national stage.
IMO this is the opportunity to finally change the style of play for USA starting with 2010’s… if they want to build a dynamic female team that can play possession soccer at a very high level while at the same time leverage the athleticism, speed, work rate that USA teams traditionally have. It all starts with the 2010’s
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Those 4 teams versus rest of YNT is a type of crazy I can support. Luis is essentially taking YNT players plus a few kids who probably ought to have made the cut. Ambitious, but not unreasonable.
Southwest versus worldwide best XI is an entirely different level of bonkers.
Dumb, dumb advice. 'Come fly to NC" and waste your money. You work for the airlines or hotels? No team from Socal should be flying to NC to test their grit. Horrible advice for young girls playing soccer in Socal. If your team wants to try its luck against the best, then your team has to pay to play Socal. Get your team on a flight and fly to sunny Socal. What a joke you are
Thanks man. I came to the forum to light a fire on youth soccer in 2018 and my mission is almost complete.
Im going to agree with @Luis Andres Better yet ill take his crazy even further.
Ill take a team of all G2010's in SoCal hand picked by Luis - who never got a U15NT OR ODP jersey over any product USA Soccer can put on the field for the SoCal region. It would be by far the best team constructed in the NATION.
The system is 100% flawed.
@crush is just spitting facts. Soccer in Southern California is not for the BEST its for the privileged. Dont get me wrong. These clubs love charity cases too. Players who family's have ZERO money who drive hours to practice chasing that carrot since their club fees were waived. It just gives those DOC's the warm fuzzy's knowing that since other players have paid sometimes triple to be on the team it all evens out and they can rest easy. One sin always evens out with a good deed. Show me one "scholarship" ECNL player and look to their bench. 100% guarantee the funds are coming from that player who has ZERO business being there. Some of these kids shouldn't even be sitting on the benches of RL teams but their parents pockets are so deep they actually get on to a team and into game and then some how get YNT call ups!!!!!
Lets be honest here though. Middle Class families are the suckers. They have a better chance signing their kid up for the Academic Olympics then playing soccer because chasing the Jones's will ultimately lead to bankruptcy. You just cant financially compete with kids getting $145hr private training sessions 3X sleeping in hyperbaric sleep chambers being middle class.
Fuck the SYSTEM!!!!!!!! @Luis Andres Start a GOATS 2010 team already and shove it down everyone's throat. My only request is I want @crush daughter to coach the team so she can scorch the landscape of US Soccer.
Thanks for the encouragement. The middleclass is priced out by the Joneses. Trying to keep up & compete with Mr. Jones bank roll is impossible. Coaches are trained to spot Mr. Jones a mile away when he pulls up in that BMW. Mr. Jones gets what he wants, and he wants Susie on the A Team, a call up and then off to D1 baby. That kind of success is weak, cheating and more like DEI (Daddy's Elite Income). Good luck everyone. California needs it's own State Team, like Oh Canada
Together we will make elite level youth soccer affordable, fair, based on merit and based on EQUALITY!!!!Game of Throw-ins
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Well said, I don't disagree with any of this because my 2010 was in SoCal during the pandemic. She intially lived in our garage on zoom meetups with her club and other trainers and training groups, when things loosed it being able to be outide at parks and on the beach nearly every day to train cause of the sunny weather; and clubs like Surf breaking all types of protocols with their "camps". It was a unique time for DD to fall back in love with the ball after some poor coaching experiences. Great debate, just playing devil's advocate for the slept on EASTWATCH.
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I’m keeping my eye on that LA City United team, run by LA’s Parks and Rec’s department. They charge $10 a month and have been posting some eye opening results (2011B attached).
RandomSoccerFan
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Yes - that age group certainly appears to have a strong team. (Each of their top teams by age group listed below)
