How’s the 2023-24 season going?
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soccermax2
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that's the dream in youth soccer for coaches! not players or parents. @crush ... I don't want to hear about your kid's play time in AZ anymore if you're encouraging this.11 v 11 all-star practices with top players on the bench looking for minutes is a competitor's dream. If you ride the pine, grind and bare it and look to find a team for next season or maybe a mid-season transfer. This is how cream rises to the top, moo
Parents...don't do this to your kids or other kids. This is not college or pros.
You don't think top players like training against each other? Ask them. They love it.
That said, I agree that we parents need to keep out of it. We bring our egos, and they get in the way.
Shooting Star
SILVER
Record size roster is what size?
Would you think a 24-25 size at the older HS level is too much?
Current state of affairs - there's lots of injured girls today in the 10s and up age group.
Sitting for 60 minutes is a way for the club to say - I’m being nice not to cut you …
But does any kid expect 100 play time at older ages - honest question. Does it happen?
Shooting Star
SILVER
From what I’ve seen this year it’s the parents telling the kids what to feel and what to think …
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Legends is starting to have a reputation of adding tons of players to their roster and spreading them all over the place. Be careful. The additions normally do not help the team because they are redundant additions. They hurt the team in the long run.
absolutely....against 18 players. not 22-24 on a team that is only allowed to roster 18. There is a limit to everything.
I think Legends has only 16 active players on their NL roster. The RL is at 17. There’s been some new additions added this week to their roster so I’m not sure what it looks like right now, but since the midway point they haven’t played with record breaking roster sizes from my direct observations
The only reason to have 22-24 players on the roster is $ for the club, hard stop. What is best for players is playing. What is best for teams is team chemistry and great coaching. The ideal team is 12 to 13 starter quality starting level players and 3-4 players willing to be bench players. 18-20 starting quality players is a recipe for disaster. A great wise coach told me once that picking the best 18 players is easy, picking a team is difficult. As the kids get older (16 on) the roster needs to be a little bigger because injuries increase and player outside conflicts exist.
Whatever happens in the transfers this year, never count Surf or Koge out. The reason that they are competitive at every age is that they are both great organizations and for the most part make decisions that are best in the long term (ok, not always, but they have past the test of time.)
JustaSpectator
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He’s looking to fill his entire roster and has added several key players. Playoffs are coming, he’ll be prepared.
Did Legends play the "we could go to GA" card?
Shooting Star
SILVER
Koge 09 has 21 and signing news players per all the news here - that’s what I see anyway … blues have 27 late have 18….
That age group is seeing injuries however
You’re preaching to the choir but it still doesn’t change the fact I’ve only seen 16 active players and have been told by parents on that team their roster was at 16 prior to tryouts.
I’ve had the chance to observe first hand and talk to parents and coaches to verify the roster size. Contrary to most, I care less about NL at this age. It’s pointless at this age unless you’re just trying to get there first. No coaches are going to look at these girls until their sophomore year anyway so might as well get your playtime in now and get the advantage over the bench players who are going to lose a step riding the pine. So I 100% agree it’s a hard stop with a roster of 19+.
It was partly why some parents have been leaving the Slammers RL/RL (formerly E64) teams because one roster is at 17 while another one ballooned to 25 while the teams were gearing up for next year (when this season hasn’t even ended).
That doesn’t mean Legends won’t hit 24+ later because they do have that reputation and that’s the appearance on the ecnl app but I’m seeing 16 active right now in the 10s NL not counting any new signings.
A few girls have been out with injuries and some girls have left (a couple left to pats at the mid season mark).
At the end of the day, these kids are going into high school so we should expect larger roster sizes coming soon (to our chagrin as parents and consumers).
Slammers is a machine and ruler of the OC with 18 teams in the 2010 age group and an RL team ranked 5th in California with little promotion from within the club.
Surf is ruler of San Diego and all that talent. Those 2 clubs will continue to be top dogs in every age group with such large platforms.
Sporting is floundering around unable to find any recruits playing second fiddle to legends NL and fury NPL.
Options are limited as no one wants to go near blues or pats and it’s unrealistic for people to make the drive to Carson, Breakers, Pleasant Valley Fields and LAFC from that 57-91-210-15 freeway grid. Legends and Slammers will look to continue expanding their talent pools and talent consolidation continues to flock to these 2 clubs.
No word on a second ECNL team. Just the SCV branch moving their E64 teams to RL2.
Isn’t pats in their second year ever of NL?
I’m speaking of their 2010 team. They’ve had RL players turn them down to stay RL and a number NL players use their offers for better deals with their home teams, but in the end, the top talent they were hoping for never signed last season or this season.
Dang day 3 and you know the full roster!! This the coach? That’s some good info!! What happened at blues? Why would girls want to stay away? Record not super good but just last year they only lost via PK’s to surf in the national finals.
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No, he's just the dad on the team with the jokes
That was me. Having fun. I will say when the kids got to HS, it all changed. I think Legends does an excellent job taking each player and come up with a plan. Legends is not cookie cutter. Not all players are the same and each player needs a custom plan.So put another way...
For G2010 Southwest ECNL play on Surf or Slammers or maybe Legends or Beach or it doesn't matter because you won't win league games.
With consolidation top players will gravitate to the top teams and league winners will become even more reinforced.
As players get older the top teams should do friendlies against college teams. Maybe this is already happening. NWSL does friendlies with top college teams before the season starts.