Girls Development Academy

Question CAM- sincere curiosity you have an 04. Where did she play BEFORE the DA?
 
chargerfan said:
You are cherry picking what I said but that's fine. I'm just surprised you guys couldn't pull out a win since apparently your girls move and pass the ball like the uswnt.
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I'm not. You took my original statement and twisted the heck out of it to make it seem like a supremacy statement because I said Surf went to win, played a style that gave them that opportunity and the coach subbed like he was keeping kids fresh in the heat. To me that means he came to win the tournament. He should have since they paid to come to it. His team looks pretty set, the girls know what they are doing and they don't have the same set of rules to work with come September.

On our end the first objective was to put into effect what we have been training on. Our roster isn't set and he started 4 guests players who never have practiced with us to take a really good look at them to see if they are a good fit. He subbed 2-3 players at a time every 15 minutes and didn't take advantage of the unlimited sub rules. We knew that would be the case coming in because our rules come September are 5 subs max and no re-entry. That doesn't make it feasible to have girls trying to learn a system and get major playtime.

So it doesn't matter what we think of the styles played and which is better. My version of "direct" is connect and counter, others feel it is blast the ball and chase. In the end while the kids all play to win, we actually had an objective that trumped that in this tourney. You can call that arrogant. I call it survival because we have to build our game around the parameters we have set in front of us.
 
C.A.M. said:
I'm not. You took my original statement and twisted the heck out of it to make it seem like a supremacy statement because I said Surf went to win, played a style that gave them that opportunity and the coach subbed like he was keeping kids fresh in the heat. To me that means he came to win the tournament. He should have since they paid to come to it. His team looks pretty set, the girls know what they are doing and they don't have the same set of rules to work with come September.

On our end the first objective was to put into effect what we have been training on. Our roster isn't set and he started 4 guests players who never have practiced with us to take a really good look at them to see if they are a good fit. He subbed 2-3 players at a time every 15 minutes and didn't take advantage of the unlimited sub rules. We knew that would be the case coming in because our rules come September are 5 subs max and no re-entry. That doesn't make it feasible to have girls trying to learn a system and get major playtime.

So it doesn't matter what we think of the styles played and which is better. My version of "direct" is connect and counter, others feel it is blast the ball and chase. In the end while the kids all play to win, we actually had an objective that trumped that in this tourney. You can call that arrogant. I call it survival because we have to build our game around the parameters we have set in front of us.
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I twisted nothing. You have been on here the past month making these claims about your daughter and her team that weren't backed up by the tournament results, so you made excuses while insinuating that is surf a kickball team whose goal isn't development. From what I have seen and heard from that team, that's not true at all.
 
chargerfan said:
I twisted nothing. You have been on here the past month making these claims about your daughter and her team that weren't backed up by the tournament results, so you made excuses while insinuating that is surf a kickball team whose goal isn't development. From what I have seen and heard from that team, that's not true at all.
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I shouldn't be so specific. You said all non-DA teams so I guess Cda slammers, la galaxy sd and fram are more concerned with winning by playing the wrong kind of soccer soccer than development too.
 
C.A.M. said:
I'm not. You took my original statement and twisted the heck out of it to make it seem like a supremacy statement because I said Surf went to win, played a style that gave them that opportunity and the coach subbed like he was keeping kids fresh in the heat. To me that means he came to win the tournament. He should have since they paid to come to it. His team looks pretty set, the girls know what they are doing and they don't have the same set of rules to work with come September.

On our end the first objective was to put into effect what we have been training on. Our roster isn't set and he started 4 guests players who never have practiced with us to take a really good look at them to see if they are a good fit. He subbed 2-3 players at a time every 15 minutes and didn't take advantage of the unlimited sub rules. We knew that would be the case coming in because our rules come September are 5 subs max and no re-entry. That doesn't make it feasible to have girls trying to learn a system and get major playtime.

So it doesn't matter what we think of the styles played and which is better. My version of "direct" is connect and counter, others feel it is blast the ball and chase. In the end while the kids all play to win, we actually had an objective that trumped that in this tourney. You can call that arrogant. I call it survival because we have to build our game around the parameters we have set in front of us.
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Why did your head coach start 4 guest players in the final? Couldn't he have seen the guest players play at practice by scrimmaging an older team at the club? Tells me, he really wants to sign those 4 players.
 
NoGoal said:
Why did your head coach start 4 guest players in the final? Couldn't he have seen the guest players play at practice by scrimmaging an older team at the club? Tells me, he really wants to sign those 4 players.
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Says a lot when a coach not only has 4 guests at a tournament, but starts all 4.
 
pulguita said:
Totally agree on the UCLA game but one league game does not a National Championship make. I know what my kid is and at her heart she is a possession player. There are a few more on her team and it will be up to them to tilt the scale in their favor. At the end of the day they play the way the staff wants them too. You know it will be a struggle when an unnamed individual says ya know if Beach played in the ECNL you wouldn't play the way you do. That unknowingly and unintentionally was probably the greatest complement he could have paid her. It also pretty much sums up the mentality here in the US. Although it seems nice what the U20 WNT says I would not be quoting anything the NT has to say about anybody as a definitive complementary comment. They have no clue what this or that looks like as evidence by theirs and every other NT level of play. People would be insane to rank SC as preseason number one. They lost 6 senior starters? I am excited that your player has those aspirations I would expect nothing less. Their are those that have a certain mentality and those that don't. Ours are winners that's just the way they think. I have always tried to focus mine on do whatever you have to to help the team and if you are successful everything else falls into place.
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Your player and her running mate have the ability to change things if they are allowed to do so. I also like AJ coming in and they have plenty of returning players. You know how rankings go. They only matter before the game is played. The Trojans will be preseason #1 and they have enough pieces assembled that it would not be inconceivable for them to be undefeated going into league play. That is when the season is going to really be fun. The way I see it the conference will have two great teams, 4 really good teams, one good team and 5 decent teams. There will be at least 6 ranked teams and this could be a year with 8 that get into the dance. Although it is hard for me to say I would be shocked if $C doesn't at least make the sweet 16. I guess I can dream though. I look forward to catching you on the pitch this season. As always, good luck to you and your player.
 
NoGoal said:
Why did your head coach start 4 guest players in the final? Couldn't he have seen the guest players play at practice by scrimmaging an older team at the club? Tells me, he really wants to sign those 4 players.
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Whoa. Who said it was a final? This is how this whole thing ballooned up. People are twisting words, adding in what they think someone is saying, etc... It's hard to imagine that the game of telephone where what is originally said gets twisted by the end applies to the written word also.

I reassert my main point on the DA is the system is different and doing what our girls have done for the last 6-7 years will not guarantee success for any team or player by how they will be judged moving forward in it if US SOCCER evaluates the girls in the system how they do the boys side.

There are people who don't like that statement or disagree. That's fine. It will all work itself out in the next few years and we will be able to reflect.

Chargerfan: Your girls played their tails off. It was a high intensity game and the shot efficiency made the difference. You deserved the win. Also, you are right. It does say a lot when you bring 4 guest players to a tournament. It says you are still building your roster and you have quality players interested in joining your program.

Don't take umbrage to my observations about DA vs non DA play styles. It was an observation, not a slight. The rule changes (limited subs with no re-entry) and play curriculum dictate that DA and DA2 teams have a lot of stuff to work on. The season is around the corner and I noticed DA teams were working on the required play style. Girls are learning and coming along at different paces in the process and working out the kinks seemed to be the call of the weekend.

I know we put LA Galaxy SD DA2 on their heels early and they stuck to the game plan. They played out the back the whole game while we pressured the crap out of them. They could have punted and went direct, but they weren't there to do that because it wouldn't help them in the long run. They sacrificed attempting to get back in the game and win for developing their game play because you have to do it vs real competition to get good at it.

No Goal: Believe what you will. We had our reasons for the guests to be there when they were and for them to play how much they did.

**Someone asked if my girl was an 04 and what teams she played on. She is an 03. She's been at a few clubs.
 
C.A.M. said:
Whoa. Who said it was a final? This is how this whole thing ballooned up. People are twisting words, adding in what they think someone is saying, etc... It's hard to imagine that the game of telephone where what is originally said gets twisted by the end applies to the written word also.

I reassert my main point on the DA is the system is different and doing what our girls have done for the last 6-7 years will not guarantee success for any team or player by how they will be judged moving forward in it if US SOCCER evaluates the girls in the system how they do the boys side.

There are people who don't like that statement or disagree. That's fine. It will all work itself out in the next few years and we will be able to reflect.

Chargerfan: Your girls played their tails off. It was a high intensity game and the shot efficiency made the difference. You deserved the win. Also, you are right. It does say a lot when you bring 4 guest players to a tournament. It says you are still building your roster and you have quality players interested in joining your program.

Don't take umbrage to my observations about DA vs non DA play styles. It was an observation, not a slight. The rule changes (limited subs with no re-entry) and play curriculum dictate that DA and DA2 teams have a lot of stuff to work on. The season is around the corner and I noticed DA teams were working on the required play style. Girls are learning and coming along at different paces in the process and working out the kinks seemed to be the call of the weekend.

I know we put LA Galaxy SD DA2 on their heels early and they stuck to the game plan. They played out the back the whole game while we pressured the crap out of them. They could have punted and went direct, but they weren't there to do that because it wouldn't help them in the long run. They sacrificed attempting to get back in the game and win for developing their game play because you have to do it vs real competition to get good at it.

No Goal: Believe what you will. We had our reasons for the guests to be there when they were and for them to play how much they did.

**Someone asked if my girl was an 04 and what teams she played on. She is an 03. She's been at a few clubs.
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Relax no need for the diatribe. I'm just messing with you. I get it, your DD was previously at some small-medium club prior. She made a DA team, you're thrilled to pieces, you think she will play college (probably Stanford or UCLA), then NWSL or Europe and make 60K and why your posting the DA song and dance.

Better check with Dom, because I think CaliKlines hanked your account?
 
NoGoal said:
Relax no need for the diatribe. I'm just messing with you. I get it, your DD was previously at some small-medium club prior. She made a DA team, you're thrilled to pieces, you think she will play college (probably Stanford or UCLA), then NWSL or Europe and make 60K and why your posting the DA song and dance.

Better check with Dom, because I think CaliKlines hanked your account?
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A small-medium club that didn't play possession or out of the back since this seems like a new thing to him.
 
C.A.M. said:
Whoa. Who said it was a final? This is how this whole thing ballooned up. People are twisting words, adding in what they think someone is saying, etc... It's hard to imagine that the game of telephone where what is originally said gets twisted by the end applies to the written word also.

I reassert my main point on the DA is the system is different and doing what our girls have done for the last 6-7 years will not guarantee success for any team or player by how they will be judged moving forward in it if US SOCCER evaluates the girls in the system how they do the boys side.

There are people who don't like that statement or disagree. That's fine. It will all work itself out in the next few years and we will be able to reflect.

Chargerfan: Your girls played their tails off. It was a high intensity game and the shot efficiency made the difference. You deserved the win. Also, you are right. It does say a lot when you bring 4 guest players to a tournament. It says you are still building your roster and you have quality players interested in joining your program.

Don't take umbrage to my observations about DA vs non DA play styles. It was an observation, not a slight. The rule changes (limited subs with no re-entry) and play curriculum dictate that DA and DA2 teams have a lot of stuff to work on. The season is around the corner and I noticed DA teams were working on the required play style. Girls are learning and coming along at different paces in the process and working out the kinks seemed to be the call of the weekend.

I know we put LA Galaxy SD DA2 on their heels early and they stuck to the game plan. They played out the back the whole game while we pressured the crap out of them. They could have punted and went direct, but they weren't there to do that because it wouldn't help them in the long run. They sacrificed attempting to get back in the game and win for developing their game play because you have to do it vs real competition to get good at it.

No Goal: Believe what you will. We had our reasons for the guests to be there when they were and for them to play how much they did.

**Someone asked if my girl was an 04 and what teams she played on. She is an 03. She's been at a few clubs.
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We are not at IE surf 03. Wrong age group, wrong county. We found coaches that taught possession and building out the back early, because it's harder to learn at u14, as you are finding out.
 
Also it's about your DD strengths and weakness- my DD doesn't have the same needs now that she did at 10! THere are some great "teams" with lots of talent due to recruiting but their coach isn't the right fit stylistically for my DD at this time. Likewise already heard about some coaching changes and I wouldn't bring my DD to some other "great teams" because that coach is a more abstract and cerebral guy. MY DD does better with a certain type. Being that she's 11 I am sure that will change 900 more times in the next five years.
 
Striker17 said:
Also it's about your DD strengths and weakness- my DD doesn't have the same needs now that she did at 10! THere are some great "teams" with lots of talent due to recruiting but their coach isn't the right fit stylistically for my DD at this time. Likewise already heard about some coaching changes and I wouldn't bring my DD to some other "great teams" because that coach is a more abstract and cerebral guy. MY DD does better with a certain type. Being that she's 11 I am sure that will change 900 more times in the next five years.
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More coaching changes out there?? Do tell.
 
Striker17 said:
Also it's about your DD strengths and weakness- my DD doesn't have the same needs now that she did at 10! THere are some great "teams" with lots of talent due to recruiting but their coach isn't the right fit stylistically for my DD at this time. Likewise already heard about some coaching changes and I wouldn't bring my DD to some other "great teams" because that coach is a more abstract and cerebral guy. MY DD does better with a certain type. Being that she's 11 I am sure that will change 900 more times in the next five years.
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You are smart to focus on your player and her changing needs! Keep on this track and she will find the perfect college fit!
 
I guess going forward I am an Albion fan. My protege's daughter is a starter on one of their GDA teams now and she has looked up to my daughter since she was 7. Her team is in CRL this year (yes she is a ULittle).
 
MakeAPlay said:
I guess going forward I am an Albion fan. My protege's daughter is a starter on one of their GDA teams now and she has looked up to my daughter since she was 7. Her team is in CRL this year (yes she is a ULittle).
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Agreed. Albion has done quite a bit to bolster their program on the girls side. MW has been a great addition on the 06 girls side.
 
LASTMAN14 said:
Agreed. Albion has done quite a bit to bolster their program on the girls side. MW has been a great addition on the 06 girls side.
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My friend's daughter really loves her new team and situation. She has improved a bunch and seems to get more excited every time I see her. What I like the most is in the last 5 years her game has evolved. My friend says that she always wants to work on something soccer related which is a very good sign. She watched my player go through the process, commit to her school and now she goes to her games and watches her on TV and that according to my friend has put the biggest carrot out their for her daughter. She knows it's real because she has seen the process and she understands that it is linked to the work that you put in.

I am excited that Albion has a coach for a younger team that can motivate a tween girl. Go Albion!
 
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